monty16 Posted June 21, 2014 Report Posted June 21, 2014 (edited) ISIS or ISIL that is. I read this comment on an RT blog and it shook me to think of it because I couldn't really come up with an answer that I could feel comfortable with? ------------------------------------------- Charles Edward Frith @charlesfrith Follow Remember Kids. ISIS are freedom fighters when executing soldiers in Syria and Terrorists when executing in Iraq ------------------------------------------- Can any of you? Can you answer the question posed by the title and feel good and comfortable with yourself? Edited June 21, 2014 by monty16 Quote
Topaz Posted June 21, 2014 Report Posted June 21, 2014 Go read what I just put under "Iraq and al-queda problems" Quote
eyeball Posted June 21, 2014 Report Posted June 21, 2014 Don't chum the trolls. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Shady Posted June 21, 2014 Report Posted June 21, 2014 (edited) ISIS or ISIL that is. I read this comment on an RT blog and it shook me to think of it because I couldn't really come up with an answer that I could feel comfortable with? ------------------------------------------- Charles Edward Frith @charlesfrith Follow Remember Kids. ISIS are freedom fighters when executing soldiers in Syria and Terrorists when executing in Iraq ------------------------------------------- Can any of you? Can you answer the question posed by the title and feel good and comfortable with yourself? What freedoms are they fighting for? Edited June 21, 2014 by Shady Quote
dre Posted June 21, 2014 Report Posted June 21, 2014 What freedoms are they fighting for? Freedom from being ruled by an Iranian proxy? Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
monty16 Posted June 21, 2014 Author Report Posted June 21, 2014 What freedoms are they fighting for? Thank you for your answer but I'm not going to go so far as to call either of them freedom fighters yet, even though you've hintd that you do. Don't chum the trolls. Is that supposed to be your excuse for an answer? This was a question posed for people who want to try to be honest about the ME situation the US has caused, not for ignorant Nazis who see all the slaughter as legitimate and necessary for protecting US access to oil resources. (With apologies to the Nazis) Quote
Guest Posted June 22, 2014 Report Posted June 22, 2014 Executing soldiers is never a good idea, kids. Who is Charles Edward Frith anyway? Quote
eyeball Posted June 22, 2014 Report Posted June 22, 2014 Is that supposed to be your excuse for an answer? No, a comment on Topaz's post. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Argus Posted June 22, 2014 Report Posted June 22, 2014 Another flamebait topic. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
jbg Posted June 22, 2014 Report Posted June 22, 2014 What freedoms are they fighting for? Freedom from being ruled by an Iranian proxy? Freedom to kill at will? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
cybercoma Posted June 22, 2014 Report Posted June 22, 2014 Wait...it's terrorism to kill soldiers now? Quote
monty16 Posted June 22, 2014 Author Report Posted June 22, 2014 All the whining aside from the US apologists, there's little doubt that the US will choose to label freedom fighters/terrorists to suit their own agenda. So any fighter who opposes the US should understand that he will be branded a terrorist. The rules for the war on terror are made by the US. The downside of that is that the rules apply for both sides. Chop, chop! Quote
Shady Posted June 22, 2014 Report Posted June 22, 2014 All the whining aside from the US apologists, there's little doubt that the US will choose to label freedom fighters/terrorists to suit their own agenda. So any fighter who opposes the US should understand that he will be branded a terrorist. The rules for the war on terror are made by the US. The downside of that is that the rules apply for both sides. Chop, chop! I still haven't heard exactly what freedoms they're fighting for. In fact, they're actually fighting for less freedom and a more restrictive, regressive society. I can't say I'd label them freedom fighters in that case. Quote
monty16 Posted June 22, 2014 Author Report Posted June 22, 2014 I still haven't heard exactly what freedoms they're fighting for. In fact, they're actually fighting for less freedom and a more restrictive, regressive society. I can't say I'd label them freedom fighters in that case. Who are you talking about? Freedom fighters or terrorists? Which ones? Answer that then maybe you have answered the question I posed with this thread. Suggestion: Those fighting against Assad are fighting for what? Love your style Shady! Quote
Shady Posted June 22, 2014 Report Posted June 22, 2014 Who are you talking about? Freedom fighters or terrorists? Which ones? Answer that then maybe you have answered the question I posed with this thread. Suggestion: Those fighting against Assad are fighting for what? Love your style Shady! They're fighting for power. Quote
Argus Posted June 22, 2014 Report Posted June 22, 2014 (edited) Wait...it's terrorism to kill soldiers now? From what I've read they slaughter and torture civilians pretty indiscriminately, especially those not of their particular religious tribe. That's okay by you? Tell me, what do you think they'd do if they came upon a homosexual? Edited June 22, 2014 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted June 22, 2014 Report Posted June 22, 2014 What freedoms are they fighting for? The freedom to slaughter and murder anyone who doesn't worship the way they do, or anyone who doesn't obey the religious laws like they do. That includes any and all homosexuals, by the way. As well as any uppity women who dare to show their faces. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
monty16 Posted June 22, 2014 Author Report Posted June 22, 2014 They're fighting for power. Well there ya go, it only needed to be explained on who you were on about. Thos fighting against Assad are my US supported terrorists and probably you would like to call them your freedom fighters. But you don't want to go either way yet and so I'll be watching for your comments on those ones. In fact, I may even go back and find where you have described them as one or the other. Ya think? Quote
Shady Posted June 23, 2014 Report Posted June 23, 2014 Well there ya go, it only needed to be explained on who you were on about. Thos fighting against Assad are my US supported terrorists and probably you would like to call them your freedom fighters. But you don't want to go either way yet and so I'll be watching for your comments on those ones. In fact, I may even go back and find where you have described them as one or the other. Ya think? Not all opposing Assad are supported by the US. Just like not everything Assad does is supported by the Russians and Iranians. Quote
GostHacked Posted June 23, 2014 Report Posted June 23, 2014 Not all opposing Assad are supported by the US. Just like not everything Assad does is supported by the Russians and Iranians. Your truth detector seems to be working again somewhat. Quote
overthere Posted June 23, 2014 Report Posted June 23, 2014 Wait...it's terrorism to kill soldiers now? Wait, is it terrorism to crucify random Christians? Three so far. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
monty16 Posted June 23, 2014 Author Report Posted June 23, 2014 Not all opposing Assad are supported by the US. Just like not everything Assad does is supported by the Russians and Iranians. What are you talking about? Do we have to go back to zero in our understanding of the situation in Syria? Can we ever start taking some things for granted as being understood? Quote
Argus Posted June 23, 2014 Report Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) What are you talking about? Do we have to go back to zero in our understanding of the situation in Syria? Can we ever start taking some things for granted as being understood? Perhaps not everyone's understanding of the way the world works is in sync with yours. Not to say which sort of reality you're in, but only to suggest that most of us occupy a different one. Edited June 23, 2014 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
monty16 Posted June 24, 2014 Author Report Posted June 24, 2014 Perhaps not everyone's understanding of the way the world works is in sync with yours. Not to say which sort of reality you're in, but only to suggest that most of us occupy a different one. This isn't about me so stop the personal attacks. Zero tolerance from me from now on. Thanks! Quote
Guest Posted June 24, 2014 Report Posted June 24, 2014 They're fighting for power. No! They are fighting for wives. Isn't love grand? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iraq-crisis-as-the-sunni-terror-spreads-its-fighters-look-for-wives-9554231.html Unless you're one of the ones they whip for not covering everything up. Quote
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