Is 16 years Old Enough To Vote?

[Wilber]

The voting tables are too high for them to reach.

Well, I'm not really suggesting we go back to 21 but a person should at least be old enough to have finished high school. Being informed is a good thing but life experience is also important.

[dre]

Well, I'm not really suggesting we go back to 21 but a person should at least be old enough to have finished high school. Being informed is a good thing but life experience is also important.

No the way our political system is designed neither being informed or life experience are important. Even for most adult voters it just a big popularity contest where most people make up their minds based on scandals, attack ads, or political ideology.

And the lowest quality voters are political ideologs and party members. They add absolutely nothing... At least young voters might not be indoctrinated into that false left/right dichotomy yet.

In any case theres no way it could hurt, and it might have educational value.

[Wilber]

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No the way our political system is designed neither being informed or life experience are important. Even for most adult voters it just a big popularity contest where most people make up their minds based on scandals, attack ads, or political ideology.

And the lowest quality voters are political ideologs and party members. They add absolutely nothing... At least young voters might not be indoctrinated into that false left/right dichotomy yet.

In any case theres no way it could hurt, and it might have educational value.

I love how many people think everyone is indoctrinated except them.

[dre]

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No the way our political system is designed neither being informed or life experience are important. Even for most adult voters it just a big popularity contest where most people make up their minds based on scandals, attack ads, or political ideology.

And the lowest quality voters are political ideologs and party members. They add absolutely nothing... At least young voters might not be indoctrinated into that false left/right dichotomy yet.

In any case theres no way it could hurt, and it might have educational value.

I love how many people think everyone is indoctrinated except them.

I love how you invented that from scratch and then put it in a reply to my post.

Anyhow the point stands. Your average adult voter adds so little to the process besides just participation, that it would make absolutely no difference to allow kids to vote. LIke I said theres zero potential harm, and maybe a small educational benefit.

[Wilber]

I love how you invented that from scratch and then put it in a reply to my post.

Anyhow the point stands. Your average adult voter adds so little to the process besides just participation, that it would make absolutely no difference to allow kids to vote. LIke I said theres zero potential harm, and maybe a small educational benefit.

I didn't put it in your post, the quote feature didn't work properly. It seems you think the less educated and experienced people are, the more likely they are to make good decisions at the ballot box. Except for yourself of course. Edited June 24, 2014 by Wilber

[Bob Macadoo]

I don't read your posts enough to know which side of the line you post from - left or right - so the partisan comment is incorrect.If I didn't comment on another insult, the chances are I didn't see it. In the example given, the original quote was about the comment and not the person. You made it about the person, which is an insult.

Partisan doesn't neccessarily have anything to do with politics, it merely shows you show an adherent behaviour to one group in this forum and condescending behaviour to another.....with no attention to political stripe.

As for CA, I'll fly my flag until he says otherwise it seems to work for our Senior Mocker among others.

[Michael Hardner]

Partisan doesn't neccessarily have anything to do with politics, it merely shows you show an adherent behaviour to one group in this forum and condescending behaviour to another.....with no attention to political stripe.

Ok... but if it isn't about politics then what is it ? What other groups are there on here ?

I really don't know.

[Charles Anthony]

Folks,

This is not your mother's basement and this is not fight club. Stick to the topic of discussion and avoid making personal attacks.

Ch. A.

[Bob Macadoo]

Ok... but if it isn't about politics then what is it ? What other groups are there on here ?I really don't know.

Ask any new comer if they notice a divide.....senior members stick within their clique engaging each other with the familiar rhetoric.....when newcomers raise new alternative views....they are dismissed. Then as newcomers start their own threads, to move ideas that are dismissed, they are ridiculed for making these entries then return to their climategate/XL Pipeline/islamaphobia topics.

Edited June 24, 2014 by Bob Macadoo

[Michael Hardner]

Ask any new comer if they notice a divide.....senior members stick within their clique engaging each other with the familiar rhetoric.....when newcomers raise new alternative views....they are dismissed.

That's an interesting perspective. I have been hear longer than pretty much anybody except Greg and one or two others but there are long-time posters that I don't engage with very often, so I wouldn't really know them from a relative newcomer.

Then as newcomers start their own threads, to move ideas that are dismissed, they are ridiculed for making these entries then return to their climategate/XL Pipeline/islamaphobia topics.

That sounds like unwelcoming behavior. On the other hand, it's good to enforce quality sources, quality topics, quality discussions. But the idea that there's some bias towards longtime members is news to me - thanks for pointing it out.

[dre]

I didn't put it in your post, the quote feature didn't work properly. It seems you think the less educated and experienced people are, the more likely they are to make good decisions at the ballot box. Except for yourself of course.

Again more invention on your part. Nowhere did I claim Im immuned to those things. Stop making stuff up.

Im simply saying that even adult voters add so little of substance besides participation its silly to think allowing a few kids to vote is going to cause any problem.

[Wilber]

Again more invention on your part. Nowhere did I claim Im immuned to those things. Stop making stuff up.

Im simply saying that even adult voters add so little of substance besides participation its silly to think allowing a few kids to vote is going to cause any problem.

You have such a low opinion of voters, why have elections at all. Just put all the candidates names in a hat and pull out 308.

[Michael Hardner]

It sounds more like the process is flawed.

[Bob Macadoo]

That's an interesting perspective. I have been hear longer than pretty much anybody except Greg and one or two others but there are long-time posters that I don't engage with very often, so I wouldn't really know them from a relative newcomer.That sounds like unwelcoming behavior. On the other hand, it's good to enforce quality sources, quality topics, quality discussions. But the idea that there's some bias towards longtime members is news to me - thanks for pointing it out.

I imagine its the frog in the warming pot syndrome.

[jacee]

Ask any new comer if they notice a divide.....senior members stick within their clique engaging each other with the familiar rhetoric.....when newcomers raise new alternative views....they are dismissed. Then as newcomers start their own threads, to move ideas that are dismissed, they are ridiculed for making these entries then return to their climategate/XL Pipeline/islamaphobia topics.

There is a cadre of that.

Stick around Bob.

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