WestCoastRunner Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 She's in remission? After Jesus told her everything was going to be okay? I might have to rethink my deathbed conversion plan. It's not about Jesus. If you believe that, than you missed the families point. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
cybercoma Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 I don't think you read all the supporting material regarding her case. I did. And I stand by my opinion. Let's leave it up to the family. I do surprise my statements from time to time, but this time, I am sticking to my beliefs.people here are acting like they refused treatment outright from the beginning. She underwent a full round of chemo,suffered the side effects that put her into the ICU, and is now refusing to undergo further treatments. That doesn't sound like insane religious fanatics that refuse to recognize the legitimacy of modern medicine. That's not incompetent parents. If they were incompetent,they wouldn't have given her chemo in the first place. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 people here are acting like they refused treatment outright from the beginning. She underwent a full round of chemo,suffered the side effects that put her into the ICU, and is now refusing to undergo further treatments. That doesn't sound like insane religious fanatics that refuse to recognize the legitimacy of modern medicine. That's not incompetent parents. If they were incompetent,they wouldn't have given her chemo in the first place. I agree!!!! Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Smallc Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 Because paternalism. Ooh yes, let's bring in racism. Quote
Guest Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 I don't think you read all the supporting material regarding her case. I did. And I stand by my opinion. Let's leave it up to the family. I do surprise my statements from time to time, but this time, I am sticking to my beliefs. I'm not quite sure what you mean. Not to worry. Quote
Guest Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 It's not about Jesus. If you believe that, than you missed the families point. Yeah, that was a joke. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 Yeah, that was a joke. I don't get your jokes. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Guest Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 I don't get your jokes. No. It doesn't matter. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 No. It doesn't matter. alight then. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
cybercoma Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 Ooh yes, let's bring in racism.you spelled paternalism wrong. Quote
overthere Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 I don't think you read all the supporting material regarding her case. I did. And I stand by my opinion. Let's leave it up to the family. I do surprise my statements from time to time, but this time, I am sticking to my beliefs. I noted that Family Services and the provincial board of professionals assigned to assess and intervene in these cases both declined to do so. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
eyeball Posted May 24, 2014 Report Posted May 24, 2014 (edited) But all the grandams were crying.... what a huge victory for aboriginal rights.... the right to let your child die because you're superstitious... It's an even bigger victory for Christianity I would think. That's the superstition in this case. It'll remain to be seen if this is an exclusive native right until such time the state ponders whether to intervene in the case of a sick non-native kid. Edited May 25, 2014 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
cybercoma Posted May 24, 2014 Report Posted May 24, 2014 There are all kinds of Christians who go through chemo. I don't understand your comment, eyeball. Quote
Big Guy Posted May 24, 2014 Author Report Posted May 24, 2014 The issue has been settled - temporarily. I hope the young lady does well and never needs chemo again. Having said that, if the remission is temporary and the child ends up succumbing to cancer then the fingers will start to point. Who, or what agency will be held responsible either morally or criminally, for the death? I hope we never have to find out. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
eyeball Posted May 25, 2014 Report Posted May 25, 2014 There are all kinds of Christians who go through chemo. I don't understand your comment, eyeball. I'm sorry, I forgot to include the quote (Squid's) that hopefully puts some context to my comment. I'm pretty sure non-native Christians who have have found themselves supporting fellow non-native Christians in similar situations who have run afoul of Child Services in the past will be certain to cite this case the next time it's them facing this choice/decision. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
cybercoma Posted May 25, 2014 Report Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) Well, if those Christians allow their child to undergo chemo, the child has effects serious enough to put him/her into ICU, the cancer goes into remission and they decide they won't ever go through chemo again, then those Christians would have a comparable situation. A Christian who refuses treatment from the outset may not be considered competent. The key component in the aboriginal girl's case, imo, is that she had chemo. She experienced it and those experiences led to her subsequently refusing treatment. It's not like she refused treatment from the start because God would save her or some such nonsense. Edited May 25, 2014 by cybercoma Quote
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