Boges Posted April 28, 2014 Author Report Posted April 28, 2014 The Ontario government being hypocritical? NOOOOO WAY!!!! Quote
The_Squid Posted April 28, 2014 Report Posted April 28, 2014 Good to know, so I will apply that to Ontario only. I think they had an issue when the smoking ban was first brought in where the ban couldn't be applied to casinos on native land as that was federally regulated. The Province had no jurisdiction. They got around that because the Province issues the gambling permits and part of their criteria to get one was to be smoke-free. At least that's how I recall it happening... I could be wrong. Quote
Boges Posted April 28, 2014 Author Report Posted April 28, 2014 Try that in Ontario you might get some sort of blockade. The government can't (not that I mind) stop contraband tobacco from flowing off the reserves. Quote
The_Squid Posted April 28, 2014 Report Posted April 28, 2014 Try that in Ontario you might get some sort of blockade. The government can't (not that I mind) stop contraband tobacco from flowing off the reserves. I've never heard of a Constitutional right to having a casino... Quote
monty16 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Posted May 13, 2014 I'm skeptical that cigarette smoke is more harmful than tailpipe emissions from a typical Victoria automobile, but I doubt they're going to ban people from driving their cars within 7m of a window, door, or air intake. -k Children don't copy car exhaust pipes. Next time you see a group of smokers look closely because chances are one of them will be wearing a 70's style leisure suit with high heel cowboy boots. Quote
overthere Posted May 15, 2014 Report Posted May 15, 2014 I think they had an issue when the smoking ban was first brought in where the ban couldn't be applied to casinos on native land as that was federally regulated. The Province had no jurisdiction. They got around that because the Province issues the gambling permits and part of their criteria to get one was to be smoke-free. At least that's how I recall it happening... I could be wrong.I reckon First Nations would dispute that feds have any jurisdiction over casino development on their land..... A casino just outside Edmonton is on First Nations land and is the only one in the area that allows smoking (though in designated areas only). They grabbed and kept a good chunk of market share when they opened. The feds have no interest in getting involved, and the province backed off. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
eyeball Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 The feds have no interest in getting involved, and the province backed off. I fail to see why anyone would want to begrudge this power native people have. It's something everyone should strive for. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Boges Posted May 16, 2014 Author Report Posted May 16, 2014 I fail to see why anyone would want to begrudge this power native people have. It's something everyone should strive for. When it comes to products that face excessive taxes, No. Now when it comes to blockading towns and roads, that's another thing. Quote
eyeball Posted May 16, 2014 Report Posted May 16, 2014 The ends justifies the means. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
overthere Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 I fail to see why anyone would want to begrudge this power native people have. It's something everyone should strive for. I think it is more a matter of the likely court battle not being worth either winning or losing. The province would have to fight the First Nations, and the whole thing would end up at the Supreme Court after millions in legal fees and perhaps some precedents set on jurisdictions on reserves. There are bigger battles ahead, most notably on resource development that will involve the province and FN Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
The_Squid Posted June 7, 2014 Report Posted June 7, 2014 I think it is more a matter of the likely court battle not being worth either winning or losing. The province would have to fight the First Nations, and the whole thing would end up at the Supreme Court after millions in legal fees and perhaps some precedents set on jurisdictions on reserves. There are bigger battles ahead, most notably on resource development that will involve the province and FN There is no smoking in casinos on native lands in BC. There is no fight about it. Every casino is smoke free. Quote
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