Ash74 Posted March 7, 2015 Report Posted March 7, 2015 So have you heard about the changes to the math curriculum for 2016? Seems to be a wind of change coming........ “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
socialist Posted March 7, 2015 Author Report Posted March 7, 2015 So have you heard about the changes to the math curriculum for 2016? Seems to be a wind of change coming........ Do you have a citation? Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Ash74 Posted March 7, 2015 Report Posted March 7, 2015 Do you have a citation? You are a teacher.......You don't know? “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
socialist Posted March 8, 2015 Author Report Posted March 8, 2015 You are a teacher.......You don't know? I haven't heard anything. I foresee something similar to what Manitoba did; change a few words in the curriculum to appease the rabid back to basic fanatics. I see you can't provide a citation though. Oh well. Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Hydraboss Posted March 8, 2015 Report Posted March 8, 2015 I didn't become a teacher to be neutral. It's not my job to be neutral when the topic of social justice is being discussed. Here's a perfect example of a teacher that instructed his idea of "social justice". Guess you're right...you shouldn't have to be neutral. http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/keegstra-case/ "racist, intolerant, small-minded bigot" - AND APPARENTLY A SOCIALIST (2010) (2015)Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13 -1.23
Ash74 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Posted March 8, 2015 I haven't heard anything. I foresee something similar to what Manitoba did; change a few words in the curriculum to appease the rabid back to basic fanatics. I see you can't provide a citation though. Oh well. Your right.... I cant give a site or an article. As I have mentioned I donate items to schools and the local Principal and I had a coffee today. We were discussing the changes being worked on for the Math curriculum for 2016. I shared my views and concerns and she said that changes are coming for the 2016 school year. A few lines is a bit of an understatement but you have left certain factors out before haven't you.....tsk, tsk “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
socialist Posted March 8, 2015 Author Report Posted March 8, 2015 Your right.... I cant give a site or an article. As I have mentioned I donate items to schools and the local Principal and I had a coffee today. We were discussing the changes being worked on for the Math curriculum for 2016. I shared my views and concerns and she said that changes are coming for the 2016 school year. A few lines is a bit of an understatement but you have left certain factors out before haven't you.....tsk, tsk The principal said.... So the principal of this school has inside info that no one else has? Double If there are changes, you will barely notice them. Thankful to have become a free thinker.
socialist Posted March 8, 2015 Author Report Posted March 8, 2015 Here's a perfect example of a teacher that instructed his idea of "social justice". Guess you're right...you shouldn't have to be neutral. http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/keegstra-case/ I focus on the environment...eco-justice and social justice. Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Ash74 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Posted March 8, 2015 I focus on the environment...eco-justice and social justice. By social justice you mean union pandering right? Oh and stripping the rights of those that have a different belief. The principal said.... So the principal of this school has inside info that no one else has? Double If there are changes, you will barely notice them. More than you it seems not that I would expect you to admit it. That being said I was just curious what you would say or if you would indeed admit it. Anyways..........We were discussing the issue of teachers in B.C yet Ontario war room is busy. All the unions are getting ready for a fight. “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
socialist Posted March 8, 2015 Author Report Posted March 8, 2015 By social justice you mean union pandering right? Oh and stripping the rights of those that have a different belief. More than you it seems not that I would expect you to admit it. That being said I was just curious what you would say or if you would indeed admit it. Anyways..........We were discussing the issue of teachers in B.C yet Ontario war room is busy. All the unions are getting ready for a fight. Unions fight for the good of the lower and middle class. Why would you be against that? Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Ash74 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) Unions fight for the good of the lower and middle class. Why would you be against that? In theory. Unions are just like a law firm,PR agency or a corporation. It has become a business just like a corporation. They have an agenda and a business plan. You pay them dues and they defend your job. But the big push right now is for more members for more dues. Members have a habit of voting down hikes in the union dues so they have started looking for ways to increase membership. I deal with a union everyday and many times not always but many times I have seen the employees curse the union and not the evil corporation because the union is calling for more hires and less hours for the part timers. Edited March 8, 2015 by Ash74 “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
socialist Posted March 15, 2015 Author Report Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) The BCTF AGM is currently under way. Teachers in BC continue to fight for learners in the province. Educators from across BC gather at to collectively plot a course forward. There was a standing ovation for Jim Iker's president's report. There is very strong support and sense of unity in the room around struggles in BC. This battle against this government is not even close to being over. Also, many schools in BC need seismic upgrades but the government is too busy giving tax cuts to their rich buddies. jim Iker is also encouraging all members to look after their mental health. Due to unrealistic demands and chronic under-funding, many teachers are beginning to suffer mentally. BC teachers are encouraged to access starlingminds.com. Jim Iker also asked why the people of BC are paying tax dollars to subsidize elite private schools. If parents choose elite private schools, they should pay, not expect a subsidy. Iker says BC teachers have a lot to be proud of. They saved close to 400 teaching positions through their negotiated education fund. I don't understand why a government would underfund public education. A well educated society commits less crime, contributes more to society and pays more taxes so why underfund public ed? Why this governemtn has it in for educators and kids is beyond me. This is a serious issue in BC, and it will seep across Canada if we aren't careful. Public sector unions are under attack, and the BCTF is standing up for democracy and children. http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/news/local-news/school-board-opposes-funding-cut-1.1781441 14 retweets10 favorites Reply Retweet14 Favorite10 More Edited March 15, 2015 by socialist Thankful to have become a free thinker.
socialist Posted March 15, 2015 Author Report Posted March 15, 2015 The twitter hashtag for the BCTF AGM is #bctf2015. Some of you would get an eye opener if you followed this hashtag. Educators fight for everyone's rights, especially the vulnerable children who have to deal with poverty. You will see dedicated educators fighting for democracy. Why cut taxes to favour the richest 2% while letting public education crumble? Anyone else see the obvious agenda at play here? Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Pct2017 Posted May 2, 2015 Report Posted May 2, 2015 Okay Pct, you don't like teachers, unions, or certain governments. But aside from that there are more important things in play here. One is this: The BC government ILLEGALLY ripped up the contract it had signed with the BCTF in 2002. 2 court cases, one heard by the BC Supreme Court(in which a fine of 2 million was slapped on the gov), have been won by the BCTF. This is because it is illegal for a government to sign a legal contract, and then change its mind and rip it up. The government is on its second and last appeal, due in October. Their chances? Not great. The bottom line is the teachers have had over a decade of enlarged class sizes that was illegally forced on them. Funding for special needs kids was also cut, and yes, the teachers haven't had a raise in some years now. They're not the lowest paid, but far from the highest paid in BC, they deserve a raise. But the biggest part of the expense would be returning to the class sizes of the 2002 contract. The Liberal government are going to have to pay for their mistake of ripping up that contract, it was illegal and just plain dumb. And, any final words on this subject there Sharky? Let's see now, four out of five judges on the BC Court of Appeals not only side with the governments position, but they take the time to skewer one of their own, Justice Susan Griffin who screwed up the original court case. And they required the BCTF to give back the $2 million. The BCTF no longer has power over our elected government to decide how many teachers will be employed (think autoworkers union telling Ford how many union members they would have to hire to make each car) Guess it was not that dumb after all, huh?
overthere Posted May 2, 2015 Report Posted May 2, 2015 Unions fight for the good of the lower and middle class. Why would you be against that? Hilarious. Unions fight for the benefit of their paying members. Period. Science too hard for you? Try religion!
socialist Posted May 2, 2015 Author Report Posted May 2, 2015 Hilarious. Unions fight for the benefit of their paying members. Period. True. And they tell us who to vote for, too. Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Wilber Posted May 2, 2015 Report Posted May 2, 2015 And, any final words on this subject there Sharky? Let's see now, four out of five judges on the BC Court of Appeals not only side with the governments position, but they take the time to skewer one of their own, Justice Susan Griffin who screwed up the original court case. And they required the BCTF to give back the $2 million. The BCTF no longer has power over our elected government to decide how many teachers will be employed (think autoworkers union telling Ford how many union members they would have to hire to make each car) Guess it was not that dumb after all, huh? I hope the SCC does take a look at this. My concern is when is a contract not a contract. When can governments just opt out of provisions in contracts they or preceding governments have signed? If the NDP are elected, what parts of contracts the previous Liberal government had signed could they tear up? "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
cybercoma Posted May 2, 2015 Report Posted May 2, 2015 Hilarious. Unions fight for the benefit of their paying members. Period. Unions have actually benefitted everyone by fighting for labour standards and increased salaries, which worked across the board. It's the neo-liberal agenda that has been working to claw back those gains for the last 35 years and it shows with the perpetually lousy economy.
Pct2017 Posted May 2, 2015 Report Posted May 2, 2015 Unions have actually benefitted everyone by fighting for labour standards and increased salaries, which worked across the board. It's the neo-liberal agenda that has been working to claw back those gains for the last 35 years and it shows with the perpetually lousy economy. Well, that is a pretty simple solution to all the economic problems of the world. Pay everyone a huge pile of money and everything will be puppies and unicorns forever. Kind of the ultimate Ponzi Scheme.
overthere Posted May 2, 2015 Report Posted May 2, 2015 Unions have actually benefitted everyone by fighting for labour standards and increased salaries, which worked across the board. It's the neo-liberal agenda that has been working to claw back those gains for the last 35 years and it shows with the perpetually lousy economy. Turn the page on that calendar Grandpa, 1934 is over and turn down the Woody Guthrie tunes, the times have changed. Labour and safety standards are now available to every worker by legislation. Am I expected to reward the unions work of 3 generations ago by overpaying their members now? Why? None of their members alive now sacrificed anything for anybody but themselves. And speaking of 'a perpetually lousy economy' is just silly. This country has never before been remotely close to as fat and prosperous as it is right now. These are the good old days. Try to enjoy them, or you can keep shouting 'get off my lawn!". You pick 'em, Science too hard for you? Try religion!
socialist Posted May 2, 2015 Author Report Posted May 2, 2015 Unions have actually benefitted everyone by fighting for labour standards and increased salaries, which worked across the board. It's the neo-liberal agenda that has been working to claw back those gains for the last 35 years and it shows with the perpetually lousy economy. Neo-Liberal agenda. SuperLOL. Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Moonbox Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) Unions have actually benefitted everyone by fighting for labour standards and increased salaries everyone...like the auto industry where Toyota enjoyed a $37/hr labour cost advantage over GM prior to the recession? Yeah that worked out perfectly from everyone...especially the US and Canadian taxpayers who had to bail out CAW/UAW pensions... Edited May 3, 2015 by Moonbox "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Wilber Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 everyone...like the auto industry where Toyota enjoyed a $37/hr labour cost advantage over GM prior to the recession? Yeah that worked out perfectly from everyone...especially the US and Canadian taxpayers who had to bail out CAW/UAW pensions... It takes two to sign a contract. The companies were just as responsible as the unions for the pension fiasco. "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
overthere Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 Stop arguing about the auto industry in Canada. It is done. Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Moonbox Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 It takes two to sign a contract. So why is it called collective bargaining then? Umm... The companies were just as responsible as the unions for the pension fiasco. I think you need to re-examine that logic. "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
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