AngusThermopyle Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 Don't forget his honking big ranch in Alberta either, or his ownership of Lionel Trains. Much as I may like his music (his older stuff) I must wonder about his motivations in this. It appears that he is a part of the rich guy climate club, rubbing elbows with David Suzuki and friends. Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
hitops Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 Don't forget his honking big ranch in Alberta either, or his ownership of Lionel Trains. Much as I may like his music (his older stuff) I must wonder about his motivations in this. It appears that he is a part of the rich guy climate club, rubbing elbows with David Suzuki and friends. I'd love for Neil to put him money where his mouth his, and deplete his fortune buying electric cars for as many as possible. Until he does that, he is just a buzzing annoyance with no credibility. Quote
FutureCanadian Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 Decreasing our standard of living and increasing the cost of energy doesn't come off as improving society. Maybe for a millionaire that doesn't have to worry about such things. He he he Quote
BubberMiley Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 I'd love for Neil to put him money where his mouth his, and deplete his fortune buying electric cars for as many as possible. Until he does that, he is just a buzzing annoyance with no credibility.Look up LincVolt and then concede you didn't know what you were talking about. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
BubberMiley Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 So-called Improving society is subjective. Many would think his ideas would do the opposite.And they can also express their opinions. The federal government is even spending taxpayers' money to express it for them. And I haven't heard anyone telling them to "shut up" either. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
BubberMiley Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 It's hypocritical, because Neil's carbon footprint in touring, traveling, equipment and sound, the people he needs to move around, recording and distributing albums, etc, is probably 100 - 1000x that of the average Canadian.It's hypocritical to suggest where our society should be moving while still functioning in the present society? That's a slimy attempt to shut down discussion that I would expect from the Harper government, not from an Internet political forum poster. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
FutureCanadian Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 Why does Young have to be a hermit to have credibility? Why can't he just be the most carbon-limiting musician he can be? Do people who don't believe in unfettered free market capitalism hypocritical for owning a business? Are religious people incapable of dealing in sin? Do they only have credibility if they vacuum out every antithetical notion from their lives? Quote
waldo Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 Look up LincVolt and then concede you didn't know what you were talking about. Young's "Prius" (as earlier stated and run with): big-time technological pursuit... with MIT engineers involved... a battery-ethanol hybrid. A big ole honking American car... purposely chosen to show what could be done... with a big ole honking American car! Quote
Shady Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 Young's "Prius" (as earlier stated and run with): big-time technological pursuit... with MIT engineers involved... a battery-ethanol hybrid. A big ole honking American car... purposely chosen to show what could be done... with a big ole honking American car! Sweet. How much does it cost? Quote
waldo Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 Sweet. How much does it cost? sorry Shady, you're not in the club... given your posting history/denial, I don't believe there's any level of 'indoctrination' that would help you get the keys! Quote
Shady Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 sorry Shady, you're not in the club... given your posting history/denial, I don't believe there's any level of 'indoctrination' that would help you get the keys! So how much does the car cost? Quote
Boges Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) More importantly how much horsepower does the car have? Can it do 0-60 in less than 10 seconds? If you're going to drive a car that looks like that, one would think you'd care about the heritage of driving. If it's just a Prius that looks like a classic vehicle, it's a waste of time. Edited January 14, 2014 by Boges Quote
BubberMiley Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 So how much does the car cost?Less and less as more and more people buy them. More if you have a government that tries to shut down even talking about them. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 More importantly how much horsepower does the car have? Can it do 0-60 in less than 10 seconds? He won't even give us the price, so I doubt he'll be forthcoming on other such details. Quote
Shady Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 Less and less as more and more people buy them. More if you have a government that tries to shut down even talking about them. So how much does it cost? How does a government prevent discussing them? Quote
BubberMiley Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 How does a government prevent discussing them?By saying it's hypocritical to even discuss it if you've ever used petrochemicals in your life. It's an indirect version of your "shut up and sing." Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 By saying it's hypocritical to even discuss it if you've ever used petrochemicals in your life. It's an indirect version of your "shut up and sing." Not it isn't at all. Nothings stopping somebody from producing and advertising these vehicles. Now, they might have difficulty selling since they don't seem to have a price! LOL Quote
Accountability Now Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 Not it isn't at all. Nothings stopping somebody from producing and advertising these vehicles. Now, they might have difficulty selling since they don't seem to have a price! LOL Actually they will have most of their troubles selling it due to the safety issues. On the morning of November 9, 2010, a fire started in LincVolt's charging system while it was recharging at a warehouse belonging to Young. The car was damaged, but is in the process of being restored http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LincVolt Quote
BubberMiley Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 That's true, and they are. If you don't understand how the market works, often new technologies are expensive to begin with and then become cheaper as they gradually enter the mass market---much like flat-screen TVs, which you might have scoffed at 15 years ago as being ridiculously expensive. Fortunately the government back then wasn't calling proponents of flat-screen TVs hypocrites because they once enjoyed watching CRT TVs. LOL Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
FutureCanadian Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 I personally scoffed at people who thought cellphones would take off when I saw the DynaTAC. Stuff happens. Quote
Shady Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 That's true, and they are. If you don't understand how the market works, often new technologies are expensive to begin with and then become cheaper as they gradually enter the mass market---much like flat-screen TVs, which you might have scoffed at 15 years ago as being ridiculously expensive. Fortunately the government back then wasn't calling proponents of flat-screen TVs hypocrites because they once enjoyed watching CRT TVs. LOL That's very true. So how much does the car cost as of today? Quote
Boges Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) That's true, and they are. If you don't understand how the market works, often new technologies are expensive to begin with and then become cheaper as they gradually enter the mass market---much like flat-screen TVs, which you might have scoffed at 15 years ago as being ridiculously expensive. Fortunately the government back then wasn't calling proponents of flat-screen TVs hypocrites because they once enjoyed watching CRT TVs. LOL Don't governments actually give a rebate for a purchasing a car like a Chevy Volt? The problem with Electric cars is they aren't practical at this point. The premium you pay to purchase one doesn't come close to offset the price of gas. Especially since new cars are impressively fuel efficient. I think the price of the LincVolt are irrelevant as anyone who owns a Classic car clearly isn't bothered by driving a car that gets very bad mileage. They're usually nostalgic about how cars were made back in the day. Ever watch that show Counting Cars on History? Edited January 14, 2014 by Boges Quote
waldo Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 Not it isn't at all. Nothings stopping somebody from producing and advertising these vehicles. Now, they might have difficulty selling since they don't seem to have a price! LOL quit being such a tool! You're reading the posts..... there was a reference to Lincvolt - why not spend a few cycles and actually read something before shooting your mouth off any further? The initiative is a symbolic nod to innovation... there's no direct marketing/commercial thrust/intent behind the initiative, behind the single vehicle... other than to act as inspiration to have auto companies utilize technologies brought forward within the initiative. Quote
waldo Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 particularly for the reading impaired! Quote
BubberMiley Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 That's very true. So how much does the car cost as of today?I don't think that particular car is on the market yet. I think it's still a prototype. I brought it up because hitops said he would be interested in what Young has to say when he invests real money into electric cars, and I couldn't resist pointing out how out to lunch that statement was. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
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