USA Flies Through China Airspace

[DogOnPorch]

Preserved for official review.

Indeed. If it comes to a gore contest, there are plenty of sites that show 'student' justice in the Waziristan region involving sharp...and at times not-so-sharp...knives being applied to various extremities.

[WWWTT]

Indeed. If it comes to a gore contest, there are plenty of sites that show 'student' justice in the Waziristan region involving sharp...and at times not-so-sharp...knives being applied to various extremities.

You are aware that the forum rules clearly specify that you should back up your claims?

And this is all relevant to the thread.

So heres another

WWWTT

[DogOnPorch]

If you think it's a good idea to post images that show dead children that may or may not have been killed in drone strikes...have at 'er.

[bush_cheney2004]

Chinese copy of U.S. "drone" MQ-9 Reaper :

[DogOnPorch]

Chinese copy of U.S. "drone" MQ-9 Reaper :

Does it play 'The East Is Red' ? I half expect their Lunar rover to start whistling that at some point.

[WWWTT]

Chinese copy of U.S. "drone" MQ-9 Reaper :

And how many innocent civilians did that kill?

I'm guessing 0!

Unless of course, you can provide something that would make me consider?

WWWTT

[bush_cheney2004]

I think it plays Rockwell's "Somebody's Watching Me" from the 1980's.

[DogOnPorch]

And how many innocent civilians did that kill?

I'm guessing 0!

Unless of course, you can provide something that would make me consider?

WWWTT

What's an innocent civilian in Waziristan? The one cleaning his weapon?

[bush_cheney2004]

Unless of course, you can provide something that would make me consider?

What you "consider" is obviously irrelevant to this topic.

[WWWTT]

What's an innocent civilian in Waziristan? The one cleaning his weapon?

?

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[WWWTT]

What you "consider" is obviously irrelevant to this topic.

In other words 0 would be the correct answer.

But hey like the forum rules clearly spell out, you should be prepared to back up your claim.

WWWTT

[bush_cheney2004]

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery !

There was also a curious shift in how China was promoting its drones at Zhuhai. In recent years, a selling point for convention goers involved drones presented as U.S. warship killers. Exaggerated, yes, but a glimpse inside Chinese military thinking. In 2010, Chinese defense industries not-so-subtly advertised “bizarre renderings” that illustrated drones “swarming over aircraft carrier battle groups like angry bees,” Defense News reported. China Aerospace and Science Corporation (CASC) also displayed a mural of its WJ-600 drone firing a missile at a U.S. Arleigh Burke class destroyer.

This year, that was out. Illustrations of U.S. warships were likewise replaced by generic, stateless ships. And Russian ships. In one video seen this month, a sleek computer-animated combat drone called the Blue Shark flexed its muscles in an attack on a digitized Russian Admiral Kuznetsov class aircraft carrier.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/11/zhuhai/

Edited January 1, 2014 by bush_cheney2004

[DogOnPorch]

What you "consider" is obviously irrelevant to this topic.

Aye...we can go on without WWWTT jus' fine.

?

WWWTT

Not familiar with Waziristan? Land o' drone strikes. Yeah....there's a reason the Hellfires are going off in that region. But, let's pretend the kids are getting jobs at the local KFC and grampa Mamoud is yellin' at them to get off his lawn.

[DogOnPorch]

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery !

There was also a curious shift in how China was promoting its drones at Zhuhai. In recent years, a selling point for convention goers involved drones presented as U.S. warship killers. Exaggerated, yes, but a glimpse inside Chinese military thinking. In 2010, Chinese defense industries not-so-subtly advertised “bizarre renderings” that illustrated drones “swarming over aircraft carrier battle groups like angry bees,” Defense News reported. China Aerospace and Science Corporation (CASC) also displayed a mural of its WJ-600 drone firing a missile at a U.S. Arleigh Burke class destroyer.

This year, that was out. Illustrations of U.S. warships were likewise replaced by generic, stateless ships. And Russian ships. In one video seen this month, a sleek computer-animated combat drone called the Blue Shark flexed its muscles in an attack on a digitized Russian Admiral Kuznetsov class aircraft carrier.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/11/zhuhai/

Like the Tu-4 Bull...right down to the camera the navigator left hanging from his station. The reverse engineering challenge of such a scope that needed conversion from foot/pound to metric was almost enough to confound the Soviets. But, the threat of the Gulags provided the incentive to make great strides in short periods of time...lol.

Tupolev-4 "Bull"...a 99% copy of the B-29 "Superfortress"

[Rocky Road]

What does the Future hold?

[WWWTT]

Recently seen on CCTV that the US may approve of the Japanese PM's changes to their constitution that would allow Japan to build it's armed forces and expand!

I'll post the link when I come across it.

WWWTT

[Smallc]

And?

[WWWTT]

And?

?

WWWTT

[bjre]

Not at all.........The Americans have the ability to showcase a portion of their nuclear deterrent underneath the noses of the Chinese……..the same can’t be said for the Chinese…..also the Americans have the ability to shoot down the Chinese bombers within the Chinese air defence zone, where as the Chinese can’t even police their own projected air defence zone.

But of course the Americans can choose when and where with their B-2......if need be, over top Beijing without the Chinese knowing or having the ability to counter it

Oh yes, Just like colonists kill 100,000,000 aboringinal people here in this continent. They have the ability.

That has nothing to do with world peace.

That is why a recently gallup poll shows:

In Gallup Poll, The Biggest Threat To World Peace Is ... America?

By Eric Brown

on January 02 2014 1:36 PM

Is the most dangerous country in the world the United States of America? According to a new poll from WIN and Gallup International, the U.S. represents the largest threat to world peace today.

In their annual End of Year poll, researchers for WIN and Gallup International surveyed more than 66,000 people across 65 nations and found that 24 percent of all respondents answered that the United States “is the greatest threat to peace in the world today.” Pakistan and China fell significantly behind the United States on the poll, with 8 and 6 percent, respectively. Afghanistan, Iran, Israel and North Korea all tied for fourth place with 4 percent.

I guess lots of poeple in this forum are among the 6% that vote China, that is nothing supprise for they have received brainwash since childhood.

Even they realize the truth, they may still reluctant to accept it, similar to the following story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes

Then a child in the crowd, too young to understand the desirability of keeping up the pretense, blurts out that the Emperor is wearing nothing at all and the cry is taken up by others.

[Guest Derek L]

Oh yes, Just like colonists kill 100,000,000 aboringinal people here in this continent. They have the ability.

That has nothing to do with world peace.

That is why a recently gallup poll shows:

Oh....a poll..........Well that settles it.

I guess lots of poeple in this forum are among the 6% that vote China, that is nothing supprise for they have received brainwash since childhood.

It also sounds like some need a good scrub themselves....

Even they realize the truth, they may still reluctant to accept it, similar to the following story.

Nah, the Chinese Communists have long since done away with their Emperors………And everybody knows clothes are now made in Bangladesh…..

[TimG]

I guess lots of poeple in this forum are among the 6% that vote China, that is nothing supprise for they have received brainwash since childhood.

Except in the US people have access to any media they like. People are free (and often do) criticize the government. Chinese don't have that luxury and that makes China dangerous and untrustworthy. Any country that does not allow its own people to freely criticize the government is a bigger threat to world peace than the US - no matter what any poll says. Edited January 6, 2014 by TimG

[WWWTT]

Oh yes, Just like colonists kill 100,000,000 aboringinal people here in this continent. They have the ability.

That has nothing to do with world peace.

That is why a recently gallup poll shows:

I guess lots of poeple in this forum are among the 6% that vote China, that is nothing supprise for they have received brainwash since childhood.

Even they realize the truth, they may still reluctant to accept it, similar to the following story.

Ya I provided that poll earlier but I guess it doesn't fit int the USA must smash mentality?

It's too bad that Derek and cheney don't speak Mandarin, because they would love to watch CCTV go on about the Japanese and US military actions in the area. Not like the US media that want to forget about this incident!

WWWTT

[Bonam]

Except in the US people have access to any media they like. People are free (and often do) criticize the government. Chinese don't have that luxury and that makes China dangerous and untrustworthy. Any country that does not allow its own people to freely criticize the government is a bigger threat to world peace than the US - no matter what any poll says.

People are free to criticize the government, and yet government records and stores all such information for future reference.The US system of surveillance of its own people is the most widespread and sophisticated in the world, a tyrannical dictator's wet dream. The UK recently established a system to block its citizens from being able to view "extremist" content online, where extremist is anything that the government chooses to define as extremist. The government gets to control what information its people see, and filter out anything they find undesirable. How long before the US and Canada follow suit? Western governments are eradicating the rights and freedoms of their people as quickly as they can manage, while the long-oppressed people of places like China are slowly gaining greater freedoms. How long until they cross?

Any moral high ground people may have wanted to claim on behalf of the US has evaporated now that the nature and scope of (a part of) its surveillance operations have been disclosed for the world to see.

Edited January 7, 2014 by Bonam

[bush_cheney2004]

.... How long before the US and Canada follow suit? Western governments are eradicating the rights and freedoms of their people as quickly as they can manage, while the long-oppressed people of places like China are slowly gaining greater freedoms.

Canada and many EU nations have already restricted access to and expression of so called "Hate Speech", to the delight of many who now express outrage about losing "freedoms".

[Bonam]

Canada and many EU nations have already restricted access to and expression of so called "Hate Speech", to the delight of many who now express outrage about losing "freedoms".

Indeed. Whether it's hate speech, cyber bullying, extremism, terrorism, or national security, Western governments have been chipping away at the rights and freedoms of their people to expression, association, privacy, information, etc.