PrimeNumber Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 The value is there...you refuse to see it. Drill...baby...drill. I guess you can't do better. Oh well I tried. Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Posted February 4, 2015 Alberta Premier Jim Prentice is in Washington, D.C. to address one of the largest lobbying groups in the U.S. Something about an oil ...err...dilbit pipeline: Prentice has been meeting with politicians and industry representatives in Washington this week. The premier said his meetings are tied to energy trade as a whole and not focused solely on the proposed Keystone XL pipeline, which would carry oil from Alberta to refineries on the U.S. Gulf Coast. "The Keystone pipeline is a project that is in both of our countries' interests, but if you look beyond a single pipeline, what we're doing together is building energy independence for us as North Americans, we're building an advantage in terms of industry." U.S. President Barack Obama has said he will veto the pipeline. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/premier-jim-prentice-addresses-u-s-chamber-of-commerce-1.2944677 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted February 4, 2015 Report Posted February 4, 2015 Yeah, duh. Hey... BC2004... what's a negative American value? Electing future war criminals. Quote
Shady Posted February 4, 2015 Report Posted February 4, 2015 Not your call....Americans will elect whomever they please. "Shame" is a Canadian value. Exactly. Some people think electing another Trudeau is a great idea. Quote
Shady Posted February 4, 2015 Report Posted February 4, 2015 You could, but why wouldn't it turn into the same disaster as what happenned with the last Bush? Nothing can be as bad as the disaster currently in the white house. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted February 4, 2015 Report Posted February 4, 2015 Nothing can be as bad as the disaster currently in the white house. Economy on a roll, 2 wars being shut down, in the process of shutting down the Gitmo horrorshow, more jobs at Ford. Get your head out of the sand, things are going very well. Quote
Shady Posted February 4, 2015 Report Posted February 4, 2015 Economy on a roll, 2 wars being shut down, in the process of shutting down the Gitmo horrorshow, more jobs at Ford. Get your head out of the sand, things are going very well. Economy's not on a roll. 2 wars have not been shut down. Gitmo is wide open with no end in site. Ford never took a bailout and has nothing to do with the government. Nice try. You should be a poltical spinmeister! Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted February 4, 2015 Report Posted February 4, 2015 Economy's not on a roll. 2 wars have not been shut down. Gitmo is wide open with no end in site. Ford never took a bailout and has nothing to do with the government. Nice try. You should be a poltical spinmeister! All I can say is check your facts before posting. Quote
Shady Posted February 4, 2015 Report Posted February 4, 2015 All I can say is check your facts before posting. Ditto Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted February 4, 2015 Report Posted February 4, 2015 Ditto US economy up 5% 3rd Q. Go check and get back. Quote
PrimeNumber Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) Is Shady actually trying to argue that America got worse under Obama after Bush. Yikes wouldn't want to be on that side of a debate.... the trick there is not to take what the right wing american media says as truth, especially when most of it comes from Faux news. Edited February 5, 2015 by PrimeNumber Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
Shady Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 US economy up 5% 3rd Q. Go check and get back. Yep, and now back down to 2% in the most recent. Go check and get back. No to mention Obama tripling the number of troops in Afghanistan, with no end in sight, and Obama's now going to ask for a new authorization of force in Iraq against ISIS, which has gotten out of control since he "ended" the war there a year ago. Like I said though, you'd be a great political spinmeister! Quote
BubberMiley Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Some people are just mortified that they supported the unqualified disaster that previously occupied the White House, leaving the economy in ruins and a power vacuum in the Middle East that created ISIS. They have to distract people from their own poor judgement by obsessing over the current, lesser disaster. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Some people are just mortified that they supported the unqualified disaster that previously occupied the White House, leaving the economy in ruins and a power vacuum in the Middle East that created ISIS. They have to distract people from their own poor judgement by obsessing over the current, lesser disaster. The power vacuum was created by the current empty suit in the White House, and the economy was "in ruins" over housing policy put in place long before. Policy that the current empty suit supported in fact. Quote
Shady Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Is Shady actually trying to argue that America got worse under Obama after Bush. Yikes wouldn't want to be on that side of a debate.... the trick there is not to take what the right wing american media says as truth, especially when most of it comes from Faux news. Yes, unfortunately things have gotten worse under Obama. Food stamp use a record high. People on disability on a record high. 40 year low in the labour participation rate. Wages declining, and Obama has added more debt than ALL previous presidents combined. Yikes! Quote
BubberMiley Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 The power vacuum was created by the current empty suit in the White House, and the economy was "in ruins" over housing policy put in place long before. Policy that the current empty suit supported in fact.Wow. Such revisionism. But Saddam Hussein was dead before Obama was president. I realize facts can be hard to accept sometimes. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Wow. Such revisionism. But Saddam Hussein was dead before Obama was president. I realize facts can be hard to accept sometimes. Obama was handed a more stable and secure Iraq. And squandered all of the progress for purely partisan political reasons. Yes, facts can be hard to accept sometimes, especially when they shine a negative light on the one we've been waiting for, his excellency president Obama. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 The power vacuum was created by the current empty suit in the White House, and the economy was "in ruins" over housing policy put in place long before. Policy that the current empty suit supported in fact. Not even close Shady. The vacuum in Iraq was left by the firing of all of Saddams people, the people that knew how to do things, and putting the totally wrong man in charge. Thats what begat ISIS and then of course the equipment left behind by the US fell into their hands. So you can pretty much lay th blame at the feet of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld. Quote
Shady Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Not even close Shady. The vacuum in Iraq was left by the firing of all of Saddams people, the people that knew how to do things, and putting the totally wrong man in charge. Thats what begat ISIS and then of course the equipment left behind by the US fell into their hands. So you can pretty much lay th blame at the feet of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld. Not really. ISIS was born out of the Syrian conflict. Obama squandered all of the gains in Iraq for political reasons. We now have the fruits of that decision. And the equipment left behind was left behind by Obama. He was so pumped on saying that they were out of Iraq, he didn't give a damn. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Not really. ISIS was born out of the Syrian conflict. Obama squandered all of the gains in Iraq for political reasons. We now have the fruits of that decision. And the equipment left behind was left behind by Obama. He was so pumped on saying that they were out of Iraq, he didn't give a damn. No, ISIS just got on your TV screen when they showed up in Syria. They were in the process of forming for years prior to that for the reasons I have already mentioned. Bush was hot to trot to wipe out everything to do with Sadam, which was the second stupid thing he did, only outdone by going in in the first place. Obama was left with the mess and he is at least trying to clean it up. No easy task of course. Quote
dre Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Not really. ISIS was born out of the Syrian conflict. Not even close. ISIL is a group that has formally existed in Iraq since October 13, 2006 as ISI (Islamic State in Iraq). The ISI formally announced its expansion into Syria on April 8th 2013 and added an "L" to the end of their name. Its amazing that someone would even participate in a discussion on a topic where they have such a basic knowledge deficit. Its like expressing loud and strong opinions about WW2, and thinking the Nazi's were Australian instead of German. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Shady Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 No, ISIS just got on your TV screen when they showed up in Syria. They were in the process of forming for years prior to that for the reasons I have already mentioned. Bush was hot to trot to wipe out everything to do with Sadam, which was the second stupid thing he did, only outdone by going in in the first place. Obama was left with the mess and he is at least trying to clean it up. No easy task of course. I guess we can agree to disagree then. Quote
Shady Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Not even close. ISIL is a group that has formally existed in Iraq since October 13, 2006. Yes, formally existed in Iraq, until Iraq was secured, then they had to leave. Hence what I already stated about Obama squandering the gains made, for purely political reasons. He let the fox back in the hen house, of course, not before calling them junior varsity, as if they weren't to be taken seriously. Well, how those junior vartisty doing now eh?! Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Yes, formally existed in Iraq, until Iraq was secured, then they had to leave. Hence what I already stated about Obama squandering the gains made, for purely political reasons. He let the fox back in the hen house, of course, not before calling them junior varsity, as if they weren't to be taken seriously. Well, how those junior vartisty doing now eh?! When was that that Iraq was secured. Never. They didnt have to leave, they just had no jobs and no control so they regrouped and the outcome is ISIS. Kicking all the Sunnis to the curb ad putting a Shia in charge was as I say, the second stupidest thing Bush did, or at least with regard to Iraq. Quote
dre Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 I guess we can agree to disagree then. Not unless you want to be deliberately obtuse. ISIL's history is very well documented. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
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