Students offered grants if they tweet pro-Israeli propaganda

[Shady]

Already answered , everyone has a price.

So what's your price for a suicide bombing? What would it matter how much money you got if you are dead? Come'on man.

[Shady]

You cannot speak for anyone but yourself; you certainly cannot speak for me. So in other words, you have a price - and you would be willing to blow up civilians, including children, if the price was right. Unbelievable.

Pretty amazing, but not that suprising given that ilk. What's even more surprising is that he lumps tweeting on social media with suicide bombings. That's pretty messed up.

[guyser]

. What's even more surprising is that he lumps tweeting on social media with suicide bombings. That's pretty messed up.

whats messed up is it was YOU who linked them, see post 4 Einstein ! Too funny.

[guyser]

So what's your price for a suicide bombing? What would it matter how much money you got if you are dead? Come'on man.

You and AW aint too swift obviously.(You did take the bait without forethought so...)

Everyone has a price, it could be cash, it could be to prevent something horrible happening to ones own family, all sorts of scenarios .

Who said money?

But thats ok, Im still laughing at your tweeting and bombing linkup.

Anyhow, everyone has a price. You do too, AW does, everyone does. No discriminating at all.

We all do. Just the truth.

Edited August 15, 2013 by Guyser2

[Signals.Cpl]

So what's your price for a suicide bombing? What would it matter how much money you got if you are dead? Come'on man.

It does not have to be money, it could be the wellbeing of your family, it could be any number of reasons. Someone comes and kidnaps your wife and kids and tell you to do something well thats your price, the wellbeing of your family. I wouldn't do quite a few things for money, but very few things are off the table when it comes to those I love and I suspect it applies to quite a few people...

[Guest American Woman]

The result is the same: Civilians are killed. Indiscriminatory targeting a building knowing that there may be civilians in the building, but shooting the missile or dropping the bomb anyway, is pretty much the same. Collateral damage doesn't excuse the fact that civilians are killed.

Airplane and helicopter pilots and most recently, drone pilots who have killed innocent civilians during their bombing fest have been rewarded with medals and recognition for defending their country. You think otherwise?

Says... YOU? You have a right to your opinion, but it doesn't make it true.

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Nothing in that entire post backs up your claim that Israeli/American/Canadian/et al soldiers are rewarded by said governments for killing civilians, much less choosing to target and kill civilians, desiring to kill civilians. You can try to twist and turn it every which way, but the bottom line is that our governments do not reward anyone for deliberately killing innocent civilians. But good to see that you recognize that "opinion" doesn't equal "truth" - because that works both ways, which actually supports my opinion since I'm saying their opinion doesn't make it true.

[Guest American Woman]

It does not have to be money, it could be the wellbeing of your family, it could be any number of reasons. Someone comes and kidnaps your wife and kids and tell you to do something well thats your price, the wellbeing of your family. I wouldn't do quite a few things for money, but very few things are off the table when it comes to those I love and I suspect it applies to quite a few people...

You said "very few things are off the table" which means there are things that are off the table; ie: things you wouldn't do.

[guyser]

It does not have to be money, it could be the wellbeing of your family, it could be any number of reasons. Someone comes and kidnaps your wife and kids and tell you to do something well thats your price, the wellbeing of your family. I wouldn't do quite a few things for money, but very few things are off the table when it comes to those I love and I suspect it applies to quite a few people...

See , you get it.

Some...well....no they don't.

[Hudson Jones]

Nothing in that entire post backs up your claim that Israeli/American/Canadian/et al soldiers are rewarded by said governments for killing civilians, much less choosing to target and kill civilians, desiring to kill civilians. You can try to twist and turn it every which way, but the bottom line is that our governments do not reward anyone for deliberately killing innocent civilians. But good to see that you recognize that "opinion" doesn't equal "truth" - because that works both ways, which actually supports my opinion since I'm saying their opinion doesn't make it true.

Collateral damage = killing civilians = receive awards

Suicide bombs = killing civilians = receive awards

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[Guest American Woman]

Collateral damage = killing civilians = receive awards

Suicide bombs = killing civilians = receive awards

Nope, doesn't equal that at all. No soldier ever received an award or reward for "collateral damage."

[Signals.Cpl]

You said "very few things are off the table" which means there are things that are off the table; ie: things you wouldn't do.

Well, I wont be detonating a nuke and killing millions to save three members of my family but I would be willing to do pretty much anything to protect my family as would you and 90% of people in this world. The rest just don't give a sh*t.

Lets say I hold a gun to your child's head and told you I would torture and kill her/him if you didn't comply, would you do anything for your child? Pay any price wether it be your life or my life if necessary?

[guyser]

Nope, doesn't equal that at all. No soldier ever received an award or reward for "collateral damage."

Except for Paul Tibbets and probably a hundred more guys like him. He got the DSC.

Oh wait, those young soldiers must have been in disguise as schoolkids and the like.

But hey, whats a few thousand or more dead.

[Guest American Woman]

Well, I wont be detonating a nuke and killing millions to save three members of my family

So you wouldn't do anything, which supports what I am saying.

I would be willing to do pretty much anything to protect my family as would you and 90% of people in this world. The rest just don't give a sh*t.

Depends on what that "pretty much anything" is, but even at that, "pretty much anything" isn't everything.

Lets say I hold a gun to your child's head and told you I would torture and kill her/him if you didn't comply, would you do anything for your child? Pay any price wether it be your life or my life if necessary?

Since you're holding the gun to my kid's head, I certainly wouldn't hesitate to "pay the price" of your life, nor would I hesitate to pay the price of my life. I wouldn't, however, be willing to pay the price of taking another child's life. Would you? Edited August 15, 2013 by American Woman

[guyser]

Well, I wont be detonating a nuke and killing millions to save three members of my family but I would be willing to do pretty much anything to protect my family as would you and 90% of people in this world. The rest just don't give a sh*t.

Lets say I hold a gun to your child's head and told you I would torture and kill her/him if you didn't comply, would you do anything for your child? Pay any price wether it be your life or my life if necessary?

Dont bother, your point has been made, and any further rationalizing as respects scenarios only makes it silly.

Some cant..wont?...admit they have a price. No worries, you and I both know they do.

[Guest American Woman]

Except for Paul Tibbets and probably a hundred more guys like him. He got the DSC.

Really? They got the DSC for killing civilians? Source, please.

[guyser]

Really? They got the DSC for killing civilians? Source, please.

Sure he did, his mission was to drop the A bomb. He knew, they knew everyone involved knew it would kill many many civilians.

And it did.

He returned and got his DSC. So much for none huh?

**not to be construed as criticizing the dropping of said bomb since it was the right idea at the time

[Guest American Woman]

Dont bother, your point has been made, and any further rationalizing as respects scenarios only makes it silly.

Some cant..wont?...admit they have a price. No worries, you and I both know they do.

No know nothing of the sort. It's your opinion that everyone has a price. I asked you once to prove it. Facts are provable. So prove that I would do anything for a price. FACT is, you can't, making your claim only an OPINION.

[Guest American Woman]

Sure he did, his mission was to drop the A bomb. He knew, they knew everyone involved knew it would kill many many civilians.

And it did.

He returned and got his DSC. So much for none huh?

**not to be construed as criticizing the dropping of said bomb since it was the right idea at the time

So the award was for killing civilians?? No, it was not.

[Signals.Cpl]

So you wouldn't do anything, which supports what I am saying.

I wouldn't blow up the planet, but it seems you are using anything to imply more than it needs to. We are confining the argument to having a price to say kill someone or blow yourself up, we could expand it to whatever you want but ultimately you would do anything asked of you, and anything within your power to protect those you love.

Depends on what that "pretty much anything" is, but even at that, "pretty much anything" isn't everything.

So what would you NOT do to protect your son/daughter/grandson/grand daughter/husband etc? What price is too much? And keep in mind that its nice and easy to say you wouldn't do x,y and z now but if it came to the choice likely you would do it as history is full of such examples.

Since you're holding the gun to my kid's head, I certainly wouldn't hesitate to "pay the price" of your life, nor would I hesitate to pay the price of my life. I wouldn't, however, be willing to pay the price of taking another child's life. Would you?

I cant say not, but if the choice came to my family or someone else I doubt I will be thinking too logically or rationally. Do you doubt that some of the suicide bombers in both Iraq and Afghanistan did the deed against their will simply to protect their families?

[guyser]

. Facts are provable. So prove that I would do anything for a price. FACT is, you can't, making your claim only an OPINION.

You have a price everyone does.

Silly really for anyone to think otherwise. As for fact and proof, what do you suggest? I come up and do some horrible thing to .....never mind. its a useless exercise for which you wont likely be truthful about since you want to think you are above all.

Use your brain, it is nt hard to figure out.

If having problems, ask Signals, he gets its.

[Guest American Woman]

I wouldn't blow up the planet, but it seems you are using anything to imply more than it needs to. We are confining the argument to having a price to say kill someone or blow yourself up, we could expand it to whatever you want but ultimately you would do anything asked of you, and anything within your power to protect those you love.

The claim was made that anyone would do anything for a price. I say otherwise. You seem to be confirming that.

So what would you NOT do to protect your son/daughter/grandson/grand daughter/husband etc? What price is too much? And keep in mind that its nice and easy to say you wouldn't do x,y and z now but if it came to the choice likely you would do it as history is full of such examples.

Keep in mind that history is also full of examples of people not "doing anything," and with that in mind, first and foremost, I wouldn't kill.

I cant say not, but if the choice came to my family or someone else I doubt I will be thinking too logically or rationally.

I wouldn't be thinking so irrationally that I could go rip a child out of its mothers arms and kill it in cold blood.

Do you doubt that some of the suicide bombers in both Iraq and Afghanistan did the deed against their will simply to protect their families?

How does one blow them self up against their will?

[Guest American Woman]

You have a price everyone does.

So prove it. If that's a fact, PROVE IT. Until you can, it's simply your opinion.

If having problems, ask Signals, he gets its.

What he's said actually supports my claim.

[guyser]

So the award was for killing civilians?? No, it was not.

Moving the goal posts I see?

Did I say killing civilians? Nope.

Stay up will ya?

American Woman, on 15 Aug 2013 - 6:29 PM, said:

Nope, doesn't equal that at all. No soldier ever received an award or reward for "collateral damage."

Either way, the Brass knew kids,moms, innocents would die as a direct result. Not collateral, direct.

But let it go, it was silly to suggest no one ever was rewarded for this stuff.

Moving on now....

[Signals.Cpl]

The claim was made that anyone would do anything for a price. I say otherwise. You seem to be confirming that.

Keep in mind that history is also full of examples of people not "doing anything," and with that in mind, first and foremost, I wouldn't kill.

I wouldn't be thinking so irrationally that I could go rip a child out of its mothers arms and kill it in cold blood.

How does one blow them self up against their will?

Maybe you don't love your family as much as I love mine...

[guyser]

So prove it. If that's a fact, PROVE IT. Until you can, it's simply your opinion.

Prove it huh?

Do I get immunity since your imagination sucks ?

Ta Ta !