Law firm (Ruby et al) loses to Ford again

[Guest Peeves]

Maybe it's time Ford sued some of these detractors back? Every time he wins he loses in costs of continuing defending himself, lawyers fees.

I don't like conspiracy theories, but when you have enemies like Ruby, Unions, Leftist City Reps, The Star, and maybe Miller and his groupies, maybe even, NDP-aka Layton bunch aka MP Olivia Chow Eh! Maybe there is a dedicated group out to get a Ford?

Ruby (reputed in media occasionally as left wing law offices) and his dupe Magder lose yet again. I sincerely hope the costs to Magder-Ruby are significant.

"the court has denied Paul Magder’s application for an appeal, meaning the case is settled in Ford’s favour, once and for all"

I bet the Toronto Star gagged when reporting this story.

It had to be difficult to swallow.

http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2013/06/20/rob_ford_wins_supreme_court_of_canada_rejects_appeal_request.html

Now I have no problem with anyone watching the doings of a politician, when you 'attack' and lose you should be responsible for

the costs to your target.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/05/28/toro-m28.html

As the World Socialist Web Site explained late last year when a court case mounted by the well-known “left” lawyer Clayton Ruby found Ford guilty of a minor abuse of his authority—a verdict reversed on appeal—and ordered him removed as mayor, Ford’s ouster would merely provide the ruling elite with the opportunity to fashion a more effective big business administration.

Ford’s political victories—his winning of the 2010 mayoral election, his imposition of sweeping budget cuts, and his goring of the city workers in the 2012 contract negotiations—were entirely bound up with and due to the rightwing politics of the official “left,” the unions and the social-democratic NDP, and their liberal friends.

Ford’s predecessor, the trade union and NDP-supported David Miller, lavished generous property tax breaks, grants, and subsidies to large developers. These policies robbed city coffers of millions and led to cuts in snow clearance, parks and recreation, and day care. In 2009, Miller forced city workers out on strike, but after he failed to extract concessions of the size and scale demanded by the financial elite, it turned on him and served notice it would oppose his re-election. Miller responded by quickly announcing that he would step down at the end of his term.

Edited June 20, 2013 by Peeves

[Boges]

Maybe it's time Ford sued some of these detractors back? Every time he wins he loses in costs of continuing defending himself, lawyers fees.

I don't like conspiracy theories, but when you have enemies like Ruby, Unions, Leftist City Reps, The Star, and maybe Miller and his groupies, maybe even, NDP-aka Layton bunch aka MP Olivia Chow Eh! Maybe there is a dedicated group out to get a Ford?

Ruby (reputed in media occasionally as left wing law offices) and his dupe Magder lose yet again. I sincerely hope the costs to Magder-Ruby are significant.

"the court has denied Paul Magder’s application for an appeal, meaning the case is settled in Ford’s favour, once and for all"

I bet the Toronto Star gagged when reporting this story.

It had to be difficult to swallow.

http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2013/06/20/rob_ford_wins_supreme_court_of_canada_rejects_appeal_request.html

They didn't really lose to Ford.

It's more like the Supreme Court defeated them.

[guyser]

Maybe it's time Ford sued some of these detractors back? Every time he wins he loses in costs of continuing defending himself, lawyers fees.

For what? he'd only lose more money.

I don't like conspiracy theories, but when you have enemies like Ruby, Unions, Leftist City Reps, The Star, and maybe Miller and his groupies, maybe even, NDP-aka Layton bunch aka MP Olivia Chow Eh! Maybe there is a dedicated group out to get a Ford?

I dont like conspiracy theories either so you're probably right , cuz , ya know, Ruby put the booze in Fords mouth at the Leafs game , The Star planted weed on him in Fla. The Leftists City Reps (a soccer team maybe?) made the 911 calls pretending to be his wife in a domestic situation.

The Unions were the worst, they had a body double drive an Escalade around while reading the news or memo and also threw a middle finger at some woman.

Miller was pretty bad, he turned over the office of Mayor and mentioned to Rob Ford 'Hey dont worry about reading the Conflict of Interest Act....it isnt like important and stuff k ?

Ruby (reputed in media occasionally as left wing law offices) and his dupe Magder lose yet again. I sincerely hope the costs to Magder-Ruby are significant.

They arent. Ruby can well afford his own fee.

Rob can too...sort of. He'll go begging to bro Doug and Deco to get his paid off. He sure cant go after Ruby for any monies.

I bet the Toronto Star gagged when reporting this story.

It had to be difficult to swallow.

I bet they had no issue whatsoever with this one. They had no stake in this game either way.

[Guest Peeves]

They didn't really lose to Ford.

It's more like the Supreme Court defeated them.

Ok. Ford won, (? Toronto Star, Miller, Ruby Magder, Unions), and the rest of the like minded hoping against hope for another shot at Ford, were defeated by the Senate ( Edited obvious a Dufferism) ruling against their high hopes.

Glad to clear that up.

Edited June 20, 2013 by Peeves

[guyser]

Ok. Ford won,

In reality no he didnt.

The Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal...son in essance and actuality, Ruby et al lost a chance to try again.

The winner and loser were decided long ago, the SC merely affirmed this.

(? Toronto Star, Miller, Ruby Magder, Unions), and the rest of the like minded hoping against hope for another shot at Ford, were defeated by the Senate ruling against their high hopes.

Glad to clear that up.

You mean Supreme Court?

[Guest Peeves]

Yeh, I have the Senate on my mind.

Ok, Ford didn't loose to Ruby's attempt to further harass him. Got it.Ruby didn't loose because there was no further case. No one won or lost because the decision had already favored Ford when he won before.

Ruby lost with Magder in the earlier case after they won in the still earlier case.

I still betcha there are those in cahoots or simply in the gauche/sinistra seats that are down in the mouth today.

And a Ruby today is a less brilliant gem stone.

[Keepitsimple]

Don't forget Adam Chaleff-Freutenhaler. He and Ruby were the democracy-thwarters behind the scenes. What is not known - because our journalists are lazy and/or incompetent and/or hateful of Ford.....is who was behind these front-men. It's obvious to all who are objective that there is a small cabal of powerful miscreants who still will not accept the will of the people. That said, it's comforting to know that their actions will result in Ford winning the Mayoralty again. It'll look good on them.

[Black Dog]

Do we need a new thread for this? There's a few Ford threads already and this is already being discussed.

[guyser]

Don't forget Adam Chaleff-Freutenhaler. He and Ruby were the democracy-thwarters behind the scenes. What is not known -

Democracy was shown to work. What is not known is why you would think the opposite.

Right..Ford gets re-elected. There still is the court case from the raids, wont that be fun to watch?

[Keepitsimple]

Democracy was shown to work. What is not known is why you would think the opposite.

Right..Ford gets re-elected. There still is the court case from the raids, wont that be fun to watch?

These charlatons took advantage of a loophole that calls for the ouster of a mayor as the only remedy - no matter how minor the transgressions. Ruby and Challef-Freudenthaler and their silent backers knew that. Everyone, including judges and the Premier have stated how wrong the law is......but the Ford-haters tried to take advantage of it - even though Council had voted NOT to take action. If you can't see how these miscreants were trying to simply oust a mayor that they didn't like - then you'll never see it. Hazel MacCallister was put in exactly the same spot by Carolyn Parrish.

[Keepitsimple]

This morning's edition of The Star had no mention of the Supreme Court verdict that vindicated Ford. Nothing. After all the front page headlines and page one articles and now - nothing! And some people still think there is no vendetta. What a sad excuse for journalism.

Edited June 21, 2013 by Keepitsimple

[guyser]

These charlatons took advantage of a loophole that calls for the ouster of a mayor as the only remedy - no matter how minor the transgressions.

If so, why is Ford still Mayor?

Did the loophole (which it isnt but I digress) work?

Nope....and nope.

Ruby and Challef-Freudenthaler and their silent backers knew that. Everyone, including judges and the Premier have stated how wrong the law is......but the Ford-haters tried to take advantage of it - even though Council had voted NOT to take action.

Blame Ruby and Challef for how wrong the law is. Got it...no wait, I think they

didnt write the law did they?

If you can't see how these miscreants were trying to simply oust a mayor that they didn't like - then you'll never see it. Hazel MacCallister was put in exactly the same spot by Carolyn Parrish.

They tried....and ? Edited June 21, 2013 by Guyser2

[guyser]

This morning's edition of The Star had no mention of the Supreme Court verdict that vindicated Ford. Nothing.

Only if four articles is nothing . Geez....so easy to find out.

But hey, dont let me stop you from backing this dead horse.

After all the front page headlines and page one articles and now - nothing! And some people still think there is no vendetta. What a sad excuse for journalism.

And some people have no idea how to look at a newspaper or online and see lots of articles today and yesterday about the verdict.

Wow, just wow.

Edited June 21, 2013 by Guyser2

[PIK]

In reality no he didnt.

The Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal...son in essance and actuality, Ruby et al lost a chance to try again.

The winner and loser were decided long ago, the SC merely affirmed this.

You mean Supreme Court?

You are so funny, ford won. is it that hard for you to say that.

[Keepitsimple]

Only if four articles is nothing . Geez....so easy to find out.

But hey, dont let me stop you from backing this dead horse.

And some people have no idea how to look at a newspaper or online and see lots of articles today and yesterday about the verdict.

Wow, just wow.

The Star's online content is quite a bit different that Print - and Print is the more persuasive/influential. My comments are only about their Print deition.

[Black Dog]

The Star's online content is quite a bit different that Print - and Print is the more persuasive/influential. My comments are only about their Print deition.

What is this based on? last year, the Star‘s paid circulation dropped by 5% over the year. Its Saturday circulation went down by -6% and Sunday circulation 6.5%. Printy is dying, newspapers know it, which is why so many are looking to online pay walls.

[guyser]

You are so funny, ford won. is it that hard for you to say that.

Hmm....dont understand something just ask.

Ford won on appeal. It back to the SC and it was not heard which means the lower court ruling stands.

Fords wasnt even part of the SC ruling. The SC judges look at the ruling by the judge, not the players in the game.

Duh...

[Keepitsimple]

What is this based on? last year, the Star‘s paid circulation dropped by 5% over the year. Its Saturday circulation went down by -6% and Sunday circulation 6.5%. Printy is dying, newspapers know it, which is why so many are looking to online pay walls.

As much as I don't agree with their political views, they still have Canada's largest circulation numbers and a huge lead in Ontario. I don't have a study to quote but I would venture to say that people who subscribe to the Print version of any newspaper are, generally speaking - serious news readers - and are more likely to hold strong opinions and actually vote. That said, my wife does the sudoku - I do the crosswork puzzle. As for content, it appears that the online version captures most, if not all news occurrances of note - but the Print version is more selective - and more subject to editorializing.

[Guest Peeves]

I get a hard copy of The National Post delivered but read many others on line. I like reading a paper or Macleans mag.whilst eating breakfast.or out on the patio.

The Star is far left of my moderately liberal views.

[Spiderfish]

Democracy was shown to work. What is not known is why you would think the opposite.

If so, why is Ford still Mayor?

Did the loophole (which it isnt but I digress) work?

Even a win for Ford is punitive. He's out of pocket over $100,000 defending this one charge alone. Democracy fortunately wasn't derailed in this case, he's still mayor. But every one of these smear campaigns scandals weakens him, even if he successfully defends himself, which seems to be the strategy of his opponents.

[Spiderfish]

And some people still think there is no vendetta. What a sad excuse for journalism.

Haters are going to hate, but journalistic integrity is something that needs to be adhered to by any media outlet looking to gain influence and respect. In my opinion, The Star crossed the line into tabloid journalism territory some time ago, and once that line is crossed, it's pretty tough to go back. I believe people with similar political leanings to the Star will continue to support them. But as a respected media source, I believe they have already lost a lot of support from many who don't share their distain for Rob Ford and the tactics they have used. There will be a consequence to journalistic decisions they have made.

Edited June 27, 2013 by Spiderfish

[cybercoma]

Democracy fortunately wasn't derailed in this case, he's still mayor.

The courts are a democratic institution. I'm not sure where you get the idea that courts overturning an election result is undemocratic. Walking into Ford's office and sticking a gun in his mouth is undemocratic. Taking him to court because he broke some democratically created law that invalidates his victory is not.

[Black Dog]

The courts are a democratic institution. I'm not sure where you get the idea that courts overturning an election result is undemocratic. Walking into Ford's office and sticking a gun in his mouth is undemocratic. Taking him to court because he broke some democratically created law that invalidates his victory is not.

Yup. I guess Nixon's resignation was an affront to democracy to these people as well since the only acceptable way to get a politician out is by voting them out.

[cybercoma]

Yup. I guess Nixon's resignation was an affront to democracy to these people as well since the only acceptable way to get a politician out is by voting them out.

And impeaching Clinton was a horrible affront to democracy too.

[Boges]

So is this where we discuss Ford now that the other thread is locked. There are several alternative threads to choose from.