bush_cheney2004 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Posted June 28, 2013 They were racist states. There is no denying that. U.S. and Canada do not have over 50 discriminating laws against another group of people like Israel does. Still are and still do....Israel is small potatoes compared to that considering population size. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest American Woman Posted June 28, 2013 Report Posted June 28, 2013 No harder to "swallow" than Canada or the U.S. as "racist states". You think this is news ? . As opposed to Palestine and the rest of the Muslim world, whose laws and actions are all about protecting equal rights for all. Quote
Hudson Jones Posted June 29, 2013 Author Report Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) Still are and still do....Israel is small potatoes compared to that considering population size. Stop with your ridiculousness. First you try to equate the $3 billion of welfare money Israel receives from U.S. to trade deals between Canada and U.S., and now this. There are over 50 laws that discriminate against Palestinians in Israel. Where in Canadian law or U.S. law will you find racist and discriminatory laws against another group of people like you can in Israel? You can't. The more we deal with facts and reality, the more the comparison between Apartheid South Africa and the racist Zionist state become clear. Edited June 29, 2013 by Hudson Jones Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 29, 2013 Report Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) Where in Canadian law or U.S. law will you find racist and discriminatory laws against another group of people like you can in Israel? You can't.The more we deal with facts and reality, the more the comparison between Apartheid South Africa and the racist Zionist state become clear. Sure I can...it is child's play to find such laws in the past and present. Affirmative action, Can Con rules, First Nations, property ownership restrictions, and language laws are just a few examples of "racism and discrimination", with a fine variety in the past consistent with each nation's development and "conquest". Israel will act in a similar way to serve its own interests. The "racist Zionist state" looks a lot like your own nation at several points in history....including now. Edited June 29, 2013 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hudson Jones Posted June 29, 2013 Author Report Posted June 29, 2013 Sure I can...it is child's play to find such laws in the past and present. Remember? It's ridiculous to try to compare laws from the past, considering that we have changed our laws and moral standards. So show me these laws in Canada and U.S. that discriminate against another group of people. Even if you're able to find 10% of the over 50 racist laws in Israel, I'd be impressed. Otherwise, you're going to look like a fool with another one of your ridiculous comparisons. Israel will act in a similar way to serve its own interests. I'm sure Nazi Germany and Apartheid South Africa felt the same way when they imposed their racist laws. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 29, 2013 Report Posted June 29, 2013 Remember? It's ridiculous to try to compare laws from the past, considering that we have changed our laws and moral standards. No, some of the laws still exist. I don't know why you deny the obvious....oh wait...yes I do. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest American Woman Posted June 29, 2013 Report Posted June 29, 2013 Of course there's nothing racist about the Palestinian land laws, and there's no discrimination against women. It's all good in Palestine. Quote
Hudson Jones Posted June 30, 2013 Author Report Posted June 30, 2013 No, some of the laws still exist. I don't know why you deny the obvious....oh wait...yes I do. So you're unable to post racist and discriminating laws in Canada that go against a certain group of Canadians? Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Hudson Jones Posted June 30, 2013 Author Report Posted June 30, 2013 Of course there's nothing racist about the Palestinian land laws, and there's no discrimination against women. It's all good in Palestine. Typical Zionist rebuttal. Point out problems with Israel and our government's support for them and you bring up something else. So how about the 50+ racist and discriminating laws against the Palestinians in Israel? Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 So you're unable to post racist and discriminating laws in Canada that go against a certain group of Canadians? Item: Canada's official use of the racist term "visible minority" in employment law: http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=f469b36e-c587-40e7-98e5-3aa50a371318 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hudson Jones Posted June 30, 2013 Author Report Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) Item: Canada's official use of the racist term "visible minority" in employment law: http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=f469b36e-c587-40e7-98e5-3aa50a371318 lol! Really? All that digging and you found this? "Use of a term" as compared to this: Discriminatory Laws in Israel There are more than 50 Israeli laws that discriminate against Palestinian citizens of Israel in all areas of life, including their rights to political participation, access to land, education, state budget resources, and criminal procedures. Some of the laws also violate the rights of Palestinians living in the 1967 OPT and Palestinian refugees. Link Canada is exactly like Israel! You have done it again! Edited June 30, 2013 by Hudson Jones Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Guest American Woman Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Typical Zionist rebuttal. Point out problems with Israel and our government's support for them and you bring up something else. So how about the 50+ racist and discriminating laws against the Palestinians in Israel? Typical anti-Semite rebuttal. Point out that Palestine has racist and discriminatory laws and you refuse to acknowledge it. So how about the racist and discriminating laws against Israelis and women in Palestine? Quote
cybercoma Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) So how about the racist and discriminating laws against Israelis and women in Palestine? Start a thread about it. Palestine's racist laws have nothing to do with Israel and does nothing to excuse Israeli racist laws. Edited June 30, 2013 by cybercoma Quote
Guest American Woman Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Start a thread about it. Palestine's racist laws have nothing to do with Israel and does nothing to excuse Israeli racist laws. Thanks for the suggestion, but I'll pass. I'll just continue to bring up what I choose to bring up in this thread. As it stands, I happen to think Palestine's racist laws have a lot to do with this thread. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Canada is exactly like Israel! You have done it again! Canada (or the U.S.) doesn't have to be EXACTLY like Israel to have racism and discrimination in its past and present. AW points out your strange lack of protest about racism and discrimination in Palestine as well. This just exposes an obvious hate on for Israel. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hudson Jones Posted June 30, 2013 Author Report Posted June 30, 2013 So how about the racist and discriminating laws against Israelis and women in Palestine? It seems difficult for you to comprehend that I'm not talking about Palestinians that are not living and are not citizens of Israel. I'm talking about Palestinian Israelis, who are citizens of Israel, who are discriminated against in Israel. As mentioned, there are over 50 racist laws, targeting Palestinian citizens of Israel. Why do you put such a battle against the simple fact that there are over 50 racist and discriminating laws against Palestinians? Are you denying that these laws exist against a particular group of Israeli citizens? Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Guest American Woman Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 It seems difficult for you to comprehend that I'm not talking about Palestinians that are not living and are not citizens of Israel. I'm talking about Palestinian Israelis, who are citizens of Israel, who are discriminated against in Israel. As mentioned, there are over 50 racist laws, targeting Palestinian citizens of Israel.It seems difficult for you to comprehend that "racist" is still "racist" whether it involves citizens or non-citizens; but for the record, the women I speak of are citizens of Palestine. Perhaps that's escaped you. Why do you put such a battle against the simple fact that there are over 50 racist and discriminating laws against Palestinians? Are you denying that these laws exist against a particular group of Israeli citizens?Why do you put such a battle against the simple fact that there are racist and discriminating laws in Palestine? Are you denying that these laws exist? Or is it simply that your outrage regarding racism and discrimination is patently selective? Quote
Hudson Jones Posted June 30, 2013 Author Report Posted June 30, 2013 It seems difficult for you to comprehend that "racist" is still "racist" whether it involves citizens or non-citizens; but for the record, the women I speak of are citizens of Palestine. Perhaps that's escaped you. Why do you put such a battle against the simple fact that there are racist and discriminating laws in Palestine? Are you denying that these laws exist? Or is it simply that your outrage regarding racism and discrimination is patently selective? Racism is racism. If you want, we can discuss treatment of Palestinians and Jews in the occupied territories in another thread. Let's focus on the treatment of Palestinian Israelis in Israel, since this is what this thread is about. Have you had a chance to look over the over 50 racist laws against the Palestinian Israelis in Israel? Racist laws that would never be accepted in a real democratic state like Canada and U.S., but unfortunately, our governments are too weak to be truthful about due to the powerful Zionist Israeli lobby. BC2004 gave it a shot and tried to say that Canada is exactly like Israel, but he fell flat on his face when he tried to show a law that would come anywhere close to any of the over racist 50 Israeli laws. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 BC2004 gave it a shot and tried to say that Canada is exactly like Israel, but he fell flat on his face when he tried to show a law that would come anywhere close to any of the over racist 50 Israeli laws. Nonsense....and just more avoidance behaviour. For instance, Canada's "Indian Act(s)" remain one of the most racist laws ever enacted and still exists today, spawning dozens of other racist and discriminatory statutes. One doesn't have to play your counting game to demonstrate the obvious. Which of the following nations occupied and continue to control native peoples lands with racist laws : A. Canada B. Israel C. United States D. A & C E. None of the above Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hudson Jones Posted July 1, 2013 Author Report Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) Nonsense....and just more avoidance behaviour. For instance, Canada's "Indian Act(s)" remain one of the most racist laws ever enacted and still exists today, spawning dozens of other racist and discriminatory statutes. One doesn't have to play your counting game to demonstrate the obvious. Which of the following nations occupied and continue to control native peoples lands with racist laws : A. Canada B. Israel C. United States D. A & C E. None of the above You are desperately holding onto a ridiculous and asinine argument. You need to comprehend that Canada's treatment of the natives in the past (over 100 years ago) would not be accepted in a real democratic country today, just like they are not accepted in Canada and U.S. today. This is why none of the racist laws in Israel would ever be accepted in Canada or U.S. today. Israel is a racist country and they have the laws and actions to prove it. Edited July 1, 2013 by Hudson Jones Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 You need to comprehend that Canada's treatment of the natives in the past (over 100 years ago) would not be accepted in a real democratic country today, just like they are not accepted in Canada and U.S. today. This is why none of the racist laws in Israel would ever be accepted in Canada or U.S. today. Israel is a racist country and they have the laws and actions to prove it. But they are "accepted" in Canada today, even as you deny that they even exist. Israel is a sovereign state, just like Canada or the U.S., and has the laws and actions to prove it. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hudson Jones Posted July 1, 2013 Author Report Posted July 1, 2013 You can keep saying Canada is like Israel when it comes to racist laws and you were challenged to prove this by showing these racist laws. However you failed, because there aren't any. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Guest American Woman Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 You are desperately holding onto a ridiculous and asinine argument. You need to comprehend that Canada's treatment of the natives in the past (over 100 years ago) .... Anyone who believes that Canada's racist treatment of the natives occurred over 100 years ago has a real lack of knowledge. Some insist on condemning only Israel, but discussions of racism cannot be limited to one country simply because some have an anti-Israel agenda. Quote
Hudson Jones Posted July 2, 2013 Author Report Posted July 2, 2013 Anyone who believes that Canada's racist treatment of the natives occurred over 100 years ago has a real lack of knowledge. Some insist on condemning only Israel, but discussions of racism cannot be limited to one country simply because some have an anti-Israel agenda. None of the 50+ racist laws in Israel would be accepted in Canada or U.S. This makes Israel a racist state and Canada and U.S. unlike Israel. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Rue Posted July 2, 2013 Report Posted July 2, 2013 Some of you have been living in denial for a long time, so the fact that Israel is a racist state is tough to swallow. Especially when indisputable facts are given to you: Discriminatory Laws in Israel There are more than 50 Israeli laws that discriminate against Palestinian citizens of Israel in all areas of life, including their rights to political participation, access to land, education, state budget resources, and criminal procedures. Some of the laws also violate the rights of Palestinians living in the 1967 OPT and Palestinian refugees. Link The absurdity of this propaganda source is that it no longer just poses as 'Hudson Jones" Canadian, but Hudson Jones, Canadian who is an expert on both Israeli and Canadian law. Based on one site, he is now an expert on Israeli domestic laws as well as the Canadian legal system. Of course in his world we ignore the laws of Sharia Law nations who impose far more discriminatory regulations against non Muslims in their countries than Israel does to alleged Israeli Arabs in Israel. No that we do not do because being selective and willfully blind to the circumstances that gave rise to these Israeli laws in the context of the Middle East Sharia law world and anti-Semitic laws of Europe is something the Hudson Jones script does not do. It simply isolates Israeli domestic laws and does not analyze their context and origins and what they responded to. No not this site. It simply relies on one site, and a partisan analysis of some regulations without looking at Israeli law in its full context. Then it has the audacity to continue to adapt its tone of arrogance that only it can determine what is to be analyzed and how it can be analyzed. Lol. Of course 12 in the night is not really 12 in the night at the script desk now is it boys. Just another Monday morning for the boys at the propaganda desk. Quote
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