Does this make you angry? Psychic said Amanda Berry was Dead

[eyeball]

What Sylvia Brown thinks is delusional. Assuming Sylvia Brown genuinely believes what she thinks is real, what she did is probably excusable.

You're not trying to equate Castro with Sylvia Brown are you?

[Boges]

What Sylvia Brown thinks is delusional. Assuming Sylvia Brown

You're not trying to equate Castro with Sylvia Brown are you?

No, Castro is clearly an abhorrent kidnapper and rapist.

I'm wondering if people think what Sylvia Brown did is immoral. Not to the level of rapist, but to the level of scam artists and snake oil salesmen.

[guyser]

but to the level of scam artists and snake oil salesmen.

She is as bad as the sign carrying religious groups that espouse the world will end.

She is a sham, the entire psychic industry is a sham.

And people are dumb. Thus, the shams (psychics) make some cash.

[Boges]

She is as bad as the sign carrying religious groups that espouse the world will end.She is a sham, the entire psychic industry is a sham.And people are dumb. Thus, the shams (psychics) make some cash.

Blaming the victim I see.

You could say the same people that scam people out of money through door-to-door salesmen. Should we have a live and let live world where there are no protections in place for people preying on the vulnerable? Perhaps but if we did the, CBC's Marketplace would go off the air pretty fast. They play the the innocent victim being preyed upon card up all the time.

Now I'm not saying we should ban psychics. But I think we as a society should throw scorn upon people that claim they can tell who's dead or not to the point that it can affect a grieving mother's mental state.

Apparently Sylvia Brown was scheduled to do a show at the Senecan Niagara Casino in Niagara Falls, New York. Not so anymore, I'm sure she'll lay low for awhile.

[guyser]

Blaming the victim I see.

No idea where that came from but whatever.

You could say the same people that scam people out of money through door-to-door salesmen. Should we have a live and let live world where there are no protections in place for people preying on the vulnerable? Perhaps but if we did the, CBC's Marketplace would go off the air pretty fast. They play the the innocent victim being preyed upon card up all the time.

Now I'm not saying we should ban psychics. But I think we as a society should throw scorn upon people that claim they can tell who's dead or not to the point that it can affect a grieving mother's mental state.

Apparently Sylvia Brown was scheduled to do a show at the Senecan Niagara Casino in Niagara Falls, New York. Not so anymore, I'm sure she'll lay low for awhile.

Someone selling door to door is not the same thing, although many of thyem could be.

GirlGuide cookies....not a sham.

Energy Co's....big time sham.

Jehovahs....biggest scammers of all.

I dont think we should ban them either, because I think most people realize what scammers they are. But hell, Churches abound so we cant really ban scammers so.....let em be.

A fool and his money are soon parted.

[Guest American Woman]

Ok !

You go believe. Not a shred of evidence to back up that any psychic has solved a crime but perhaps we havent been around long enough on this earth to know .

Actually, as I've said, I've read about such evidence. The thing is, you don't have first hand knowledge about every crime that's been solved. There's no way you could know what you claim to know, just as I said. I would say there's a reason some police still contact psychics at times do.

Hope there arent any unicorns running arounf !

Why? Are you afraid of unicorns?

I actually thought you had an open mind for a minute there, since I agree with this observation completely: "perhaps we havent been around long enough on this earth to know ."

[guyser]

Actually, as I've said, I've read about such evidence.

Not from any credible source you havent.

Police the world over will deny that any help in solving a crime has come from psychics.

I actually thought you had an open mind for a minute there,

I do.

But psychics are a scam and couldnt solve a damn thing. If they did, they would solve the worlds problems and get uber rich in the meantime.

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[Guest American Woman]

Not from any credible source you havent.

How do you know what I've read in my lifetime?? My sources have been very credible, thank you very much. :angry:

Police the world over will deny that any help has come from psychics.

I do.

So why do some contact psychics? Because they have so much time to waste when trying to solve a crime?

But psychics are a scam and couldnt solve a damn thing. If they did, they would solve the worlds problems and get uber rich in the meantime.

This pretty much shows your lack of knowledge regarding what "psychics" are/aren't capable of. I've already addressed the "they would solve the worlds problems and get uber rich in the meantime" idea, so I won't repeat myself now.

[GostHacked]

Might as well break out the tarot cards while you are at it.. now where DID I put that crystal ball.

[guyser]

How do you know what I've read in my lifetime?? My sources have been very credible, thank you very much. :angry:

I dont know what you have read.

I know you havent read any credible books on psychics solving crimes!

And why?

There arent any.

Snakeoil types of books/psychics...ok, but not a credible book has been written than can prove the psychics helped.

So why do some contact psychics? Because they have so much time to waste when trying to solve a crime?

They dont...generally, they are contacted by the shams.

Hey, Detectives can be dumb too !

This pretty much shows your lack of knowledge regarding what "psychics" are/aren't capable of.

They arent capable of any sort of future/fortune telling , so what lacks ?

I am if nothing, not naive and gullible to believe shammers and scammers

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[guyser]

Might as well break out the tarot cards while you are at it.. now where DID I put that crystal ball.

Oh .........thooooooose are different !!

My tea leaves are telling me.....Im having tea !

Well, whattaya know, maybe reading tea leaves works.

Oda Mae Brown was at least funny and entertaining

[Guest American Woman]

I dont know what you have read.

I know you havent read any credible books on psychics solving crimes!

And why?

Yep. You know this. For a fact. You have all the answers. Good for you.

I have to say, it's been so nice "discussing" this with you.

Might as well break out the tarot cards while you are at it.. now where DID I put that crystal ball.

Yep. Because, of course, it's all the same thing.

[guyser]

Yep. You know this. For a fact. You have all the answers. Good for you.

I do.

Otherwise I wouldnt have said it.

If there was a credible source , I am sure you would have posted it. There isnt, thus you cant.

I have to say, it's been so nice "discussing" this with you.

Anytime !

Yep. Because, of course, it's all the same thing.

It is.

Tarot cards+crystal ball+psychics+fortune tellers+seers = hogwash .

Want to talk about the fun some of my friends have going to psychics and tarot readers? They apparently do and I laugh along with them. Kind of like buying a lottery ticket, aint going to win, but have fun hoping and wishing.

(although with a lottery ticket there is a chance, w a psychic, there is every chance.....that youll be scammed out of your money)

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[Guest Kenneth]

Like I said, not one case . You really should read your own links Damns your case too !

The FBI have said, 'not one case has psychics solved "

Most any country (1st W) says the same thing.

Hey look....a Unicorn. Hello Harvey , I thought you were a rabbit?

Yes, I know you're a troll, but you made a statement that the police have never claimed that a psychic helped solve a case, and I provided two examples from a few minutes of googling, so just man up and admit that you were wrong.

[guyser]

, but you made a statement that the police have never claimed that a psychic helped solve a case, and I provided two examples from a few minutes of googling, so just man up and admit that you were wrong.

Wow, cant read english? Let me help you then.

Let me quote your link, the Allison one (cant copy and paste for some reason) "Local Police would only say that Allison may have provided some psychological help in solving the Kline murder."

Police speak "may have" means naw , she didnt do squat.

The second link doesnt say a damn thing, just that the Detective got some street names from her.

Phew, street names, wow!

So man up...ok?

No psychic has ever solved a murder let alone found a missing penny.

Want to keep trying and look foolish? Be my guest.

Oh god the naivete of people is fun to mock !

[Guest Kenneth]

Police will rarely admit that a psychic helped solve a case - if you know police culture, you should know why, but I guess you don't. There's also a public perception concern because close-minded people such as yourself simply don't get it, as you've repeated demonstrated in this tread. So please just give it a rest - you were wrong, and just be man enough to admit it.

[Argus]

Funny how these psychics never seem to have any money. You'd think they'd be able to pick lottery numbers, pick the winners of horse races, know what stocks were going to rise, what companies would prosper, what sort of major to take in school, where good jobs are, etc. No, they always seem to be lower middle class, just scraping by.

[kimmy]

On Sylvia Browne:

Personally, I think that if somebody puts more credence in something Sylvia Browne predicts than something a random stranger on the street predicts, it's their own fault.

In this case, it appears that Amanda Berry's mother went asking for Sylvia Browne's help, on the Montel Williams show, no less:

Back in 2004, Louwana Miller turned to Browne for help on an episode of "The Montel Williams Show." She wanted to know what happened to her daughter, Amanda Berry, who disappeared at 16 years old on April 21, 2003. The psychic told the mother Berry was dead.

While I certainly feel that Sylvia Browne is a scumbag for trying to dupe gullible people into believing she has magic powers, and Montel Williams is a turd for promoting that crap on his TV show, ultimately it's Louwana Miller's own fault. She went and asked some idiot what happened to her daughter, she got an answer she probably didn't want to hear, and that's the end of it. Does Sylvia Browne offer any sort of warranty or guarantee of accuracy? I highly doubt it.

On whether psychics actually ever help police solve crimes:

This article says it's been studied and found to have no merit.

It points out that while psychic predictions were not found to be statistically more accurate than the control group, the psychics made a lot more predictions and were found to place a high emphasis on correct predictions and ignore their failures.

-k

[GostHacked]

Yep. You know this. For a fact. You have all the answers. Good for you.

I have to say, it's been so nice "discussing" this with you.

Yep. Because, of course, it's all the same thing.

It is, all are items of clairvoyance. Tarot cards and crystal balls are tools for the 'psychic'.

[Guest American Woman]

It is, all are items of clairvoyance. Tarot cards and crystal balls are tools for the 'psychic'.

All psychics do not use tarot cards and/or crystal balls.

[The_Squid]

All psychics do not use tarot cards and/or crystal balls.

No one said they do....

However, they do the same thing.... Predict the future. Too bad there is no evidence they do anything of the sort. Some people are just very naive... And there are those who will prey upon that.

[Guest American Woman]

No one said they do....

However, they do the same thing.... Predict the future. Too bad there is no evidence they do anything of the sort. Some people are just very naive... And there are those who will prey upon that.

Yeah. GH did. But here's the thing - they don't all "predict the future." Those who are called upon to help with crimes aren't "predicting the future" and they aren't using tarot cards and/or crystal balls. Two different things.

[eyeball]

Whatever it is they do it's still just as flakey.

[Guest American Woman]

Whatever it is they do it's still just as flakey.

Evidently the police officers who seek their input don't share your view, and that's what my comments were in regards to - their seeking the help of psychics to help solve crimes.

[eyeball]

It's still no less flakey, no matter who seeks it. Evidently there's some flakey police out there too, they're only human. You should see the flakey stuff some fishermen believe in.