socialist Posted April 2, 2013 Report Posted April 2, 2013 As a soon to be public school teacher I am eleated that the Liberals have made up for McGuinty's mistakes by trying to take away our democratic rights. The deal will be good for us young teachers. This deal will get the Liberals another majority. I will go back to supporting them. Teachers are a forgiving group and we just want to be treated fairly. Thanks to Wynne for cleaning up the mess that she inherited. Treat teachers with respect and we will respect you back. get on our bad side and we along with our progressive unions will fight for our democratic rights. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/education/ontario-sick-days-deal-softens-blow-to-younger-teachers/article10667008/ Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Mighty AC Posted April 2, 2013 Report Posted April 2, 2013 Socialist, this change doesn't effect you in any way. This is a small change in the one time payout of previously banked days. A source said that the deal will be paid for with savings found elsewhere in the contract terms. I'd like to see some details on where in the 'contract terms' the money will be taken from. I have no problem with shifting where current contract money is being spent, as long as total costs do not increase. If the elimination of a sick/bereavement/family care day or some other offset pays for the increased payout in banked days, then great.A tiny change like this isn't the driving force behind the government and unions playing nice. Unions would rather just get a longer deal signed now and avoid Hudak as long as possible. Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
Shady Posted April 2, 2013 Report Posted April 2, 2013 You were suppose to be a teacher last year. Quote
socialist Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Posted April 2, 2013 You were suppose to be a teacher last year. Wrong! Last year was my second last year. I'm done soon, and have some leads on some positions ffor next year. What have you got going for you? Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Shady Posted April 2, 2013 Report Posted April 2, 2013 Wrong! Last year was my second last year. I'm done soon, and have some leads on some positions ffor next year. What have you got going for you? Well, sorry, I apologize then. I got a lot going on too. Quote
guyser Posted April 2, 2013 Report Posted April 2, 2013 Wrong! Last year was my second last year. I'm done soon, and have some leads on some positions ffor next year. What have you got going for you? Well....for one he can spell, and he isn't a teacher. Quote
socialist Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Posted April 2, 2013 Well, sorry, I apologize then. I got a lot going on too. Like what? Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
socialist Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Posted April 2, 2013 Well....for one he can spell, and he isn't a teacher. You guys can't discuss the issue so you rely on personal attacks. Incompetency breeds immaturity I guess. Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
MiddleClassCentrist Posted April 3, 2013 Report Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) How do you even know what the deal is? How do they? Media blackout, nothing has been released. Socialist, you completely forgot about the new seniority based hiring process. You have to be an occasional teacher to apply to the, temporary teacher list (LTO), or to contract. 5 most senior candidates must be considered. You'll be on the bottom, if you manage to get on. Edited April 3, 2013 by MiddleClassCentrist Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
socialist Posted April 3, 2013 Author Report Posted April 3, 2013 How do you even know what the deal is? How do they? Media blackout, nothing has been released. Socialist, you completely forgot about the new seniority based hiring process. You have to be an occasional teacher to apply to the, temporary teacher list (LTO), or to contract. 5 most senior candidates must be considered. You'll be on the bottom, if you manage to get on. I already have my foot in the door. Don't worry about me; worry about yourself and your lack of knowledge on the subject of public education. Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Mighty AC Posted April 3, 2013 Report Posted April 3, 2013 Is socialist one of Shady's personas? Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
socialist Posted April 3, 2013 Author Report Posted April 3, 2013 Is socialist one of Shady's personas? No, I'm one of Mighty AC's many personas. I am who I am. Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Mighty AC Posted April 3, 2013 Report Posted April 3, 2013 "I yam what I yam." Wait a minute are you Popeye? Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
MiddleClassCentrist Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 Is socialist one of Shady's personas? A troll, to be sure. Being completely ignorant of the new hiring practices and other events that anyone who has teachers in the family know about makes it even more questionable. Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
punked Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 Wrong! Last year was my second last year. I'm done soon, and have some leads on some positions ffor next year. What have you got going for you? Teaching programs in Canada are 2 year programs unlike the stated where you can go into a 4 year education program. Something in this post doesn't add up and what is is someone trying to pretend they are an education student. It's the long con hut when Shady and Punked agree on something it is usually right and we can both see you don't pass the sniff test. Quote
Mighty AC Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) Based on his comments it is unlikely that he is in an ed program; but there are concurrent programs in Ontario. Students can earn their undergrad and ed degrees simultaneously. Edited April 4, 2013 by Mighty AC Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
Wilber Posted April 12, 2013 Report Posted April 12, 2013 Banking sick days in case you have an extended illness is fine, getting paid out for unused sick days is ridiculous. Sick days are for when you are sick, not deferred salary. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
punked Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 Banking sick days in case you have an extended illness is fine, getting paid out for unused sick days is ridiculous. Sick days are for when you are sick, not deferred salary. I agree with this statement. Quote
westguy Posted April 21, 2013 Report Posted April 21, 2013 socialist - you seem to be a union radical. God hel[p our children Quote
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