German town goes off the grid with alternative energy.

[GostHacked]

Please keep this up guys, I was in dire need of some entertainment this afternoon.

[Accountability Now]

nice to see you rise to it... and no, I didn't report you! As I recall I've only ever reported one poster - a guy who has long since been banned. But really, let's look at some of your gems, your treasures from this thread that you directed to me:

clearly, you have difficulty with being challenged - and bettered. I'd suggest you have a long hard read of what I quoted. How old are you, anyway?

Wow...who's the insecure one now. Were you writing these on a list to bring to your therapist? Its ok waldo....he can't hurt you anymore. LMFAO!!! Man you are something else. You claim that you are above insults but everyone else sees the BS that you spew time in and time out. You can dish it but run to mommy when its time to take it. Don't worry waldo....you are the coolest of your chat room buddies.

I have zero difficulty with being challenged. A number of people in this forum have challenged me and we have had a good trade of insights. Other people like TimG, bush_cheney, canuckistani and Michael Hardner have bettered me on certain arguements and I learned from it. You even admitted that you came into this thread weary of other Solyndra threads. You had your mind made up before you even started and all it took was saying Solyndra. So where is the openess to be challenged on your end? Can't be challenged with your head in the sand.

Move on waldo. I'm done with you.

[waldo]

with Germany now receiving 25-28% of its energy from renewable sources... while moving aggressively to meet it's 2020 target of 35% of its power from renewable sources:

from Bloomberg:

Germany is getting more power than ever before from sources dependent on wind and sunshine, pushing short-term price swings to the biggest in five years and boosting volume as utilities increase trading.

The gap between the highest and lowest price over two months for electricity deliverable the next day widened to the most since December 2007 through yesterday, according to broker data compiled by Bloomberg. German wind output peaked at a record 23,331 megawatts on Jan. 31, enough to supply 46 million homes. That compares with an average of 5,079 megawatts during 2012, data from European Energy Exchange AG on Bloomberg show

and here I thought... renewables weren't viable??? Isn't that the common refrain from some of youse guys?

[waldo]

Move on waldo. I'm done with you.

I accept your unconditional surrender! Carry on, hey?

[Moonbox]

Moonbox, are you still smarting?

LoL! So...This post here from a week ago that you responded to (but I never saw and never looked at again) proves what here? In your mind, it seems that whoever has the last word wins! That's not suprising seeing as though your M.O. is brutal verbosity, overquotation and arguing your opponents down to exhaustion. The more you natter the better I guess!?

Edited February 25, 2013 by Moonbox

[Accountability Now]

I accept your unconditional surrender! Carry on, hey?

Hardly...I said I'm done with you because there is nothing anyone can do for you. I will walk away victorious but don't worry....you can tell your chat room buddies how you slayed that mean guy in MLW today.

[waldo]

right Moonbox! Never saw and never looked at... right! Don't hesitate to respond to it then. It was simply a handy go-to, from recent days, that clearly trumped the false bravado you presumed on. You know, where you replied with something that had no bearing/relation to what you quoted, while at the same time suggesting a, "struggle with economics". I trust you've taken my HDI vs. IHDI schooling to heart... that you've dealt with your own struggle. How about those Scandinavian countries, hey?

[Accountability Now]

LoL! So...This post here from a week ago that you responded to (but I never saw and never looked at again) proves what here? In your mind, it seems that whoever has the last word wins! That's not suprising seeing as though your M.O. is brutal verbosity, overquotation and arguing your opponents down to exhaustion. The more you natter the better I guess!?

Wow...do I ever hear you on this one!

[waldo]

Hardly...I said I'm done with you because there is nothing anyone can do for you. I will walk away victorious but don't worry....you can tell your chat room buddies how you slayed that mean guy in MLW today.

more of your insults, hey? Like I said, you're forever self-aggrandizing, perpetually claiming, "I win, I win"... "I'm victorious". By the way, did you give it that hard read I suggested... did you read a significant number of your insults quoted in that single reply?

throughout this complete thread you haven't been able to offer a single cogent thought of your own - more pointedly, you couldn't even properly decipher your own cut & paste magic! As I also said, you clearly don't handle challenge well... you don't handle being bettered at all. Is this your first experience with a discussion board? Just admit it - I might choose to cut you a lil' slack - offer you up a handicap, perhaps.

[Accountability Now]

more of your insults, hey? Like I said, you're forever self-aggrandizing, perpetually claiming, "I win, I win"... "I'm victorious". By the way, did you give it that hard read I suggested... did you read a significant number of your insults quoted in that single reply?

throughout this complete thread you haven't been able to offer a single cogent thought of your own - more pointedly, you couldn't even properly decipher your own cut & paste magic! As I also said, you clearly don't handle challenge well... you don't handle being bettered at all. Is this your first experience with a discussion board? Just admit it - I might choose to cut you a lil' slack - offer you up a handicap, perhaps.

Shh waldo....he can't hurt you anymore. It will be alright!

[waldo]

*** bump ***

with Germany now receiving 25-28% of its energy from renewable sources... while moving aggressively to meet it's 2020 target of 35% of its power from renewable sources:

from Bloomberg:

Germany is getting more power than ever before from sources dependent on wind and sunshine, pushing short-term price swings to the biggest in five years and boosting volume as utilities increase trading.

The gap between the highest and lowest price over two months for electricity deliverable the next day widened to the most since December 2007 through yesterday, according to broker data compiled by Bloomberg. German wind output peaked at a record 23,331 megawatts on Jan. 31, enough to supply 46 million homes. That compares with an average of 5,079 megawatts during 2012, data from European Energy Exchange AG on Bloomberg show

and here I thought... renewables weren't viable??? Isn't that the common refrain from some of youse guys?

[waldo]

another recent Fox News gem/fail, one highlighted within a MLW status update... and, of course, it got heavy play across lamestream media and fake-skeptic blog outlets, most particularly those that revel in casting doubt and uncertainty towards suggestions or considerations of renewable energy:

Germany... more sun than the United States? No - not according to the U.S. Department of Energy's National Renewable Energy Laboratory - where virtually the entirety of the continental United States gets more sun than even the sunniest part of Germany.

"Germany's solar resource is akin to Alaska's," the U.S. state with by far the lowest annual average of direct solar energy.
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[bush_cheney2004]

another recent Fox News gem/fail, one highlighted within a MLW status update... and, of course, it got heavy play across lamestream media and fake-skeptic blog outlets, most particularly those that revel in casting doubt and uncertainty towards suggestions or considerations of renewable energy:

Hey...that looks like the USA. And Germany. And Spain. So where is Canada ? Canada deserves its own "Photovoltaic Solar Resource" graphics. There is obviously a "Photovoltaic Solar Resource" graphic GAP.

Edited February 25, 2013 by bush_cheney2004

[waldo]

Hey...that looks like the USA. And Germany. And Spain. So where is Canada ? Canada deserves its own "Photovoltaic Solar Resource" graphics. There is obviously a "Photovoltaic Solar Resource" graphic GAP.

but... but... the context was a FoxNews fail in comparing the U.S. to Germany. Are you that bereft of anything to actually contribute that you must resort back to your tried-and-true 'one trick pony'?

here: have a cookie!

[waldo]

How isn't Alberta taking action? Not only do they have a carbon tax but they're also working to make the oil sands more environmentally friendly.

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it's an almost nominal $15 per tonne for companies that exceed certain emission limits... or they're allowed to play the offset market. In relation to profits it's a token tax, at best.

I am curious what you describe as, 'Alberta working to make the tarsands more environmentally friendly'. Certainly, there was much fanfare over the CCS announcements. Of the four suggested CCS projects, one is already dead, another has just been pronounced! Given the history, (not just of these 2 cancellations), I'll believe the other 2 projects are proceeding when actual results are observed.

Low gas prices scuttle Alberta carbon capture deal

Another company has pulled the plug on one of the Alberta government's high-profile projects to capture and store carbon created by the energy industry.

Swan Hills Synfuels and the province announced Monday that they will discontinue a $285-million funding agreement that would have seen underground coal converted to gas and then burned to generate electricity.

[bush_cheney2004]

but... but... the context was a FoxNews fail in comparing the U.S. to Germany. Are you that bereft of anything to actually contribute that you must resort back to your tried-and-true 'one trick pony'?

But this is the Canadian Politics > Federal Politics area of the forum. This is where you can celebrate Canada in all its glory, without taking the easy route to the usual American references found in the first Google or Bing hits. Take this time and these opportunities to embrace the rich culture and statistics that define life in the world's greatest country.....Canada !

Going forward, I will strive to help you recognize the unique aspects of Canadian metadata without the usual American hegemon crutch. Ironically, an American can help you discover the inner beauty of Canadian statistics.

Edited February 26, 2013 by bush_cheney2004

[waldo]

is this your way of acknowledging you failed on the FoxNews comparison between the U.S. and Germany? Since this is a thread about Germany, about renewable energy in Germany, it's odd you would so raise another of your 'one-trick ponies'.

by the way, just how many of your brazillion posts reflect upon your described, 'striving to raise your ponies'... over and over and over again?

[bush_cheney2004]

is this your way of acknowledging you failed on the FoxNews comparison between the U.S. and Germany? Since this is a thread about Germany, about renewable energy in Germany, it's odd you would so raise another of your 'one-trick ponies'.

No, as I had no horse in that race. Comparisons between the U.S. and Germany in the Canadian Federal Politics forum is odd to say the least, but not uncommon around here. I guess Canadian Content truly is hard to come by.

by the way, just how many of your brazillion posts reflect upon your described, 'striving to raise your ponies'... over and over and over again?

As many as the universe needs to reach a natural equilibrium. I am sensitive to the hollow feelings after the dramatic Kyoto FAIL, but it is time to move on. Nunuvut needs wind turbines !

[Guest]

Nunuvut needs wind turbines !

Scotland's got some they don't want.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/windpower/9889882/Wind-farms-will-create-more-carbon-dioxide-say-scientists.html

[kairos]

So don't build them on peat. Planet rapers for profit are so completely solipsistic.

Edited February 26, 2013 by kairos

[waldo]

Scotland's got some they don't want.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/windpower/9889882/Wind-farms-will-create-more-carbon-dioxide-say-scientists.html

your comment is about as (in)accurate as the British tabloid's headline... after some 60 wind farms built across Scotland, the Scottish government/industry has learned a thing or two about bog remediation - go figure:

by the by, surely... surely... anyone who accepts the statements that BigOil industry will remediate tarsand excavations/pools, must give consideration to mitigation requirements for the wind farm industry within Scotland. Surely.

[Guest]

Yeah, I didn't really mean they didn't want them. They paid for them, after all.

Although, having said that, there are an awful lot of "shoulds" in there.

And all those doctors at Aberdeen Uni seem to think it's a bad idea.

Never mind. If you have that much faith in the Scottish Government and Big Oil when it comes to peat development and oilsands remediation, who am I to argue?

Edited February 26, 2013 by bcsapper

[kairos]

Which is worse Oil spills like took place in the Gulf of Mexico or building a windmill on a peat bog?

[Hudson Jones]

Does TimG know that every year, the Canadian government gives more than $1.4 billion in tax subsidies to oil, coal, and gas companies. I do not understand those who are so against social services, but are advocates of big company handouts.

[TimG]

Does TimG know that every year, the Canadian government gives more than $1.4 billion in tax subsidies to oil, coal, and gas companies. I do not understand those who are so against social services, but are advocates of big company handouts.

Are you aware that Canada collects $3 billion per year with gasoline taxes? Are you aware that Alberta collects $12 billion per year in royalties on fossil fuel extraction?

These two numbers clearly demonstrate that the *net* subsidy in Canada is negative. i.e. fossil fuels bring Canadian governments more in direct revenues than they cost in 'tax subsides'. If you want money to pay for for programs this should be a good thing.

Edited February 26, 2013 by TimG