Smallc Posted January 20, 2013 Report Posted January 20, 2013 I'm not a fan of wild meat in general.... Quote
The_Squid Posted January 20, 2013 Author Report Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) The wild stuff is quite a bit more "gamey", I understand. Wouldnt know, I dont eat rodentia. You don't eat animals from the order Rodentia, but do you eat rabbits? Rabbits are not rodents. Edited January 20, 2013 by The_Squid Quote
The_Squid Posted January 20, 2013 Author Report Posted January 20, 2013 The bible is wrong about the animals that we should eat, due to modern food safety, perhaps? Completely understandable. Modern society also does not condone slavery anymore, unlike the bible. Nor should we stone adulterers... So, as society has changed for the better, religion has had to keep pace,often kicking and screaming about the changes. The bible is constantly being left behind by societal changes in the western world and the religious institutions are forced to change their thinking as well or risk becoming even less relevant. The societal change on how gays and lesbians are viewed is a case in point. Quote
jbg Posted January 21, 2013 Report Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) I'm not a fan of wild meat in general.... Ever see or hear of the movie "Soylant Green (link)?" Edited January 21, 2013 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Guest Manny Posted January 21, 2013 Report Posted January 21, 2013 You don't eat animals from the order Rodentia, but do you eat rabbits? Rabbits are not rodents. Thats debateable, eh. Your biologists did at one time classify them as rodents, but then changed their mindz. New research indicates they have a common ancestor, and belong to the same order. Same as squirrels, and rats. Quote
Guest Manny Posted January 21, 2013 Report Posted January 21, 2013 The bible is wrong about the animals that we should eat, due to modern food safety, perhaps? Completely understandable. Modern society also does not condone slavery anymore, unlike the bible. Nor should we stone adulterers... So, as society has changed for the better, religion has had to keep pace,often kicking and screaming about the changes. The bible is constantly being left behind by societal changes in the western world and the religious institutions are forced to change their thinking as well or risk becoming even less relevant. The societal change on how gays and lesbians are viewed is a case in point. The bible isn't wrong. It was clearly right, rabbits eat their own grunt. No need to be obstinate, please indulge in piles of recycled rat tart. Quote
The_Squid Posted January 21, 2013 Author Report Posted January 21, 2013 Thats debateable, eh. Your biologists did at one time classify them as rodents, but then changed their mindz. New research indicates they have a common ancestor, and belong to the same order. Same as squirrels, and rats. My biologists? They're everyones biologists! Rabbits have not been classified as rodents since the early 1900's and I don't think there is any debate about it... The bible isn't wrong. It was clearly right, rabbits eat their own grunt. No need to be obstinate, please indulge in piles of recycled rat tart. Nearly every bible refers to cud, not poop. It's ok for the bible to be wrong. It's old and outdated about many, many things. Quote
Sleipnir Posted January 21, 2013 Report Posted January 21, 2013 The wild stuff is quite a bit more "gamey", I understand. Wouldnt know, I dont eat rodentia. Rabbits are not in the order of Rodentia, instead they fall into the order of Lagomorpha. Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
Guest Manny Posted January 21, 2013 Report Posted January 21, 2013 Weve already been over all those points, no reason for me to reiterate whats been said. New evidence shows rabbits share a common ancestot with rats etc. I already told you that too. But you dont acknowledge even when your own scientists tell you something that doesnt fit your personal views. You folks are not even consistent within your own game. Quote
Sleipnir Posted January 21, 2013 Report Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) New evidence shows rabbits share a common ancestot with rats etc. I already told you that too. Do you have any proof to back up your claim? But you dont acknowledge even when your own scientists tell you something that doesnt fit your personal views. You folks are not even consistent within your own game. Do you know anything about taxonomy? No. Edited January 21, 2013 by Sleipnir Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
cybercoma Posted January 21, 2013 Report Posted January 21, 2013 Can we all agree that hares and rabbits are no the same animal at least. Quote
Guest Manny Posted January 21, 2013 Report Posted January 21, 2013 Do you have any proof to back up your claim? Yes. But you have been helped enough in this thread already. Feel free to google or wikipedia it yourself, if you need to. Suugest you take some intiative, and report back to us. Far be it from me to hamper your learning experience Quote
Sleipnir Posted January 21, 2013 Report Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) Feel free to google or wikipedia it yourself, if you need to. In other words, you can't provide proof of your claim. You don't even know the basic of taxonomic phylogeny - let along interpreting or understanding it. Suugest you take some intiative, and report back to us. Far be it from me to hamper your learning experience Now you're just trolling. Edited January 21, 2013 by Sleipnir Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
The_Squid Posted January 21, 2013 Author Report Posted January 21, 2013 Weve already been over all those points, no reason for me to reiterate whats been said. New evidence shows rabbits share a common ancestot with rats etc. I already told you that too. But you dont acknowledge even when your own scientists tell you something that doesnt fit your personal views. You folks are not even consistent within your own game. I ignored the common ancestor thing because it was irrelevant to their taxonomic classification. We share a common ancestor with rats too, at some point. Doesn't mean we're in the same Order as rodents. Quote
Guest Manny Posted January 22, 2013 Report Posted January 22, 2013 Oh so you did look it up. I guess you'll retract your statement then, that I have nothing to back up my claims. I shouldnt have to provide proof of something as basic as scientific evidence. The fact you chose to "ignore" science is your choice. Quote
Sleipnir Posted January 22, 2013 Report Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) I guess you'll retract your statement then, that I have nothing to back up my claims. I shouldnt have to provide proof of something as basic as scientific evidence. The fact you chose to "ignore" science is your choice. Keep trolling Edited January 22, 2013 by Sleipnir Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
Guest Manny Posted January 22, 2013 Report Posted January 22, 2013 Keep trolling I never do that. And in any case, no need to. Your original premise in this thread is proven false. My work is done here. Quote
Sleipnir Posted January 22, 2013 Report Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) I never do that. And in any case, no need to. Your original premise in this thread is proven false. My work is done here. You haven't proven anything, all you did was to show a condescending attitude. Edited January 22, 2013 by Sleipnir Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
Guest Manny Posted January 22, 2013 Report Posted January 22, 2013 You haven't proven anything, all you did was to show a condescending attitude. Nonsense. The whole premise of the thread was a trollish attempt at insulting someones religion, and it has utterly failed. Quote
betsy Posted January 26, 2013 Report Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) I never do that. And in any case, no need to. Your original premise in this thread is proven false. My work is done here. Once they use the "troll" card....that's one of the signs they know you got them good, Manny! Edited January 26, 2013 by betsy Quote
Sleipnir Posted January 26, 2013 Report Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) Once they use the "troll" card....that's one of the signs they know you got them good, Manny! Or that they don't know what they're talking about. Rabbits and beavers the same thing? Rubbish. Edited January 26, 2013 by Sleipnir Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
betsy Posted January 26, 2013 Report Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) Or that they don't know what they're talking about. Yeah, that too. Like you! Thanks for reminding me. Edited January 26, 2013 by betsy Quote
Guest Manny Posted January 26, 2013 Report Posted January 26, 2013 Or that they don't know what they're talking about. Rabbits and beavers the same thing? Rubbish. Rabbits, rats, beavers. I did look it up briefly, back in that earlier discussion. I don't know if any of you folks did likewise. But since you keep resurrecting it, let me put it to rest for you. Here is what the science says- "Rabbits and hares were formerly classified in the order Rodentia (rodent) until 1912, when they were moved into a new order Lagomorpha. Carl Linnaeus originally grouped rabbits and rodents under the class Glires; later, they were separated as the predominant opinion was that many of their similarities were a result of convergent evolution. However, recent DNA analysis and the discovery of a common ancestor has supported the view that they share a common lineage, and thus rabbits and rodents are now often referred to together as members of the superclass Glires." Quote
The_Squid Posted January 26, 2013 Author Report Posted January 26, 2013 And we are ALL in the kingdom Animalia! Rabbits are STILL not rodents! lol Quote
Guest Manny Posted January 26, 2013 Report Posted January 26, 2013 They used to be rodents. Now they are the same order as rodents. Yes all animals are animals. But we are not in that same order. Thats science Quote
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