Sleipnir Posted January 26, 2013 Report Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) They used to be rodents. Now they are the same order as rodents. No they're not, you really are clueless when it comes to taxonomy. Glires is a clade, not an order. The two different orders of Rodentia and Lagomorpha makes up a hypothetical phylogenetic clade that is called Glires. It does not mean, in any way, that those two organisms are the same thing. Edited January 26, 2013 by Sleipnir Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
Guest Manny Posted January 27, 2013 Report Posted January 27, 2013 No they're not, you really are clueless when it comes to taxonomy. Glires is a clade, not an order. The two different orders of Rodentia and Lagomorpha makes up a hypothetical phylogenetic clade that is called Glires. It does not mean, in any way, that those two organisms are the same thing. Never said they're the same thing. But they're closely related, as science dictates. In fact science used to consider them rodentia, but changed its classification. I'm only talking science here. I've proven that. It's a tempest in a teapot. Really no need to keep dragging this on and on. Quote
Sleipnir Posted January 27, 2013 Report Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) But they're closely related, as science dictates. It does not mean they're in the same order. In fact science used to consider them rodentia, but changed its classification. I'm only talking science here. They changed the classification for a reason, scientists don't just willy nilly change it because they're bored. Edited January 27, 2013 by Sleipnir Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
Guest Manny Posted January 27, 2013 Report Posted January 27, 2013 It does not mean they're in the same order. You lack complete understanding in the topic of phylogenetic taxonomy. As stated, they were once. And they're still closely related now. Whether it's an "order" or not is esoteric to me. I already said this is a tempest in a teapot. Why is it so important to you? And why do you keep insisting I'm trolling, it doesn't help. Personally I try to avoid calling people names, that's uninteresting. Quote
Sleipnir Posted January 27, 2013 Report Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) I already said this is a tempest in a teapot. Why is it so important to you? Because you're clearly giving out erroneous information. Edited January 27, 2013 by Sleipnir Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
Guest Manny Posted January 27, 2013 Report Posted January 27, 2013 Because you're clearly giving out erroneous information. Clearly I'm not. I think you're dragging this out for no reason, even though I explained it a few times, and posted real scientific information. I'll go with science... Quote
Sleipnir Posted January 27, 2013 Report Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) Clearly I'm not. I think you're dragging this out for no reason, even though I explained it a few times, and posted real scientific information. You haven't posted anything. I'll go with science... Then try using correct terminologies. Edited January 27, 2013 by Sleipnir Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
Guest Manny Posted January 27, 2013 Report Posted January 27, 2013 You haven't posted anything. From earlier today- "Rabbits and hares were formerly classified in the order Rodentia (rodent) until 1912, when they were moved into a new order Lagomorpha. Carl Linnaeus originally grouped rabbits and rodents under the class Glires; later, they were separated as the predominant opinion was that many of their similarities were a result of convergent evolution. However, recent DNA analysis and the discovery of a common ancestor has supported the view that they share a common lineage, and thus rabbits and rodents are now often referred to together as members of the superclass Glires." Come on Sleipner. Time to let it go! Wish it down the rabbit hole. Quote
Sleipnir Posted January 27, 2013 Report Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) From earlier today- Did you even read the statement before you post them? Do you realize that statement does nothing to back up your claims that rabbits and beavers are the same order? Superclass is not the same as order, so obviously you're picking up claims out of thin air. -Phylum -Subphylum -Superclass: Glires -Class -Subclass -Superorder -Order: Rodentia and Lagomorpha -Suborder -Superfamily -Family -Subfamily -Genus -Subgenus -Species -Subspecies Edited January 27, 2013 by Sleipnir Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
betsy Posted January 27, 2013 Report Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) Come on Sleipner. Time to let it go! Wish it down the rabbit hole. Ha-ha-ha ...and he should do the Alice-maneuver. Edited January 27, 2013 by betsy Quote
msj Posted February 9, 2013 Report Posted February 9, 2013 Well, I still like to eat rabbits regardless of what is said or done.... Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
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