login Posted December 23, 2012 Report Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) That is considerably MORE than the average federal public service employee. apparently it isn't the average is $114000 Edited December 23, 2012 by login Quote
punked Posted December 23, 2012 Report Posted December 23, 2012 apparently it isn't the average is $114000 If you include benefits and Pensions but count the Pension monies as monies earned working. That inflates all salaries in Canada to be 40% more then what they are. The PM earns quite a bit of money if we want to count that way. Quote
Canuckistani Posted December 23, 2012 Report Posted December 23, 2012 What about CEOs of large corporations???? Poor native reserves aren't large corporations. When they earn the sort of revenue that large corporations do, then they can consider paying their leaders as much. Note the underline on earn. What does the average mayor of a small village earn. Probably 30k or so. Of course these chiefs are leaders of nations, but then they should live on their own dime, not the foreign aid we shovel to them. Quote
PIK Posted December 23, 2012 Report Posted December 23, 2012 No, and it wasn't raised as an issue. What was raised as an issue were small band chiefs making more than Harper. And where the 90 mil went to. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Argus Posted December 23, 2012 Report Posted December 23, 2012 apparently it isn't the average is $114000 That is a nonsense figure. It is, in large part, distorted by the fact they count the RCMP and military, and their far greater benefits, and all those who are currently out on pensions or long term sicknesses. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
login Posted December 23, 2012 Report Posted December 23, 2012 That is a nonsense figure. It is, in large part, distorted by the fact they count the RCMP and military, and their far greater benefits, and all those who are currently out on pensions or long term sicknesses. military do not get paid a whole lot in Canada. It is mostly execs of crown agencies and other management that get the big bucks. judges get quite a bit too. fact is they are the federal public service. what do you think the rcmp is Quote
jacee Posted December 23, 2012 Report Posted December 23, 2012 And where the 90 mil went to. All accounted for. Did you miss that? http://www.attawapiskat.org/financial-statements/ Quote
cybercoma Posted December 24, 2012 Report Posted December 24, 2012 She is neither the premier nor the prime minister nor has she those responsibilities. If she is mayor she's mayor of a town of 1500. Aren't a lot of such positions basically part-time and non-paid in Canada? Who's responsible for education in this country? The provincial government. Who's responsible for education on reserves? The band council. Who's responsible for maintaining roads in the province? The municipalities and the province. Who's responsible for maintaining roads on reserves? The band council. She's more than "just a mayor." Quote
Smallc Posted December 24, 2012 Report Posted December 24, 2012 Sure, but is she several of orders of magnitude more than a mayor? Nope Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Posted December 24, 2012 How much does the Queen make ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jacee Posted December 24, 2012 Report Posted December 24, 2012 Here's the data ... http://taxpayer.com/federal/new-jaw-dropping-reserve-pay-numbers Interesting that the real problem appears to be in ALBERTA! Quote
Guest Posted December 24, 2012 Report Posted December 24, 2012 Here's the data ... http://taxpayer.com/...rve-pay-numbers Interesting that the real problem appears to be in ALBERTA! Indian Oil and Gas? Quote
Argus Posted December 24, 2012 Report Posted December 24, 2012 Who's responsible for education in this country? The provincial government. Who's responsible for education on reserves? The band council. Who's responsible for maintaining roads in the province? The municipalities and the province. Who's responsible for maintaining roads on reserves? The band council. She's more than "just a mayor." The only one of the above which isn't a routine responsibility for municipalities is education -- which is generally the responsibility of the local school board. Again, this is a small town of 1500 people. There are urban schools with larger populations than that. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
cybercoma Posted December 24, 2012 Report Posted December 24, 2012 The only one of the above which isn't a routine responsibility for municipalities is education -- which is generally the responsibility of the local school board. Again, this is a small town of 1500 people. There are urban schools with larger populations than that. There were just a few examples that I gave off the cuff. My point still stands that Chiefs' responsibilities are beyond those of a small rural mayor's. Quote
jacee Posted December 24, 2012 Report Posted December 24, 2012 Indian Oil and Gas? Not sure. I thought the implication was they're paying themselves out of federal band funds. The pdfs at the link seem to show a few 'anomalies'. Quote
login Posted December 25, 2012 Report Posted December 25, 2012 How much does the Queen make ? the queen gets hosted when in Canada, she apparently does not receive a salary. but the royal family and executive officers (lt gov and gov gen) cost a few 10's of millions indirectly) they are legally the executive though. Quote
YEGmann Posted December 25, 2012 Report Posted December 25, 2012 All accounted for. Did you miss that? http://www.attawapis...ial-statements/ Question was, what difference did they do. It seems, they were wasted. Quote
jacee Posted December 25, 2012 Report Posted December 25, 2012 Question was, what difference did they do. It seems, they were wasted. That $90m that Harper brayed about was 5 years of Band funding ($18m per year) used as usual for education, health care, water/sewage, public housing and all other government services. The financial statments are posted. Look for yourself. Quote
YEGmann Posted December 25, 2012 Report Posted December 25, 2012 That $90m that Harper brayed about was 5 years of Band funding ($18m per year) used as usual for education, health care, water/sewage, public housing and all other government services. The financial statments are posted. Look for yourself. Do you realize that it's an equivalent of a city like Montreal or Edmonton receiving $10 billion per year? Of taxpayers money. Every year. I think something is wrong with your accountability. And if I am not mistaken, the town receives millions of dollars from a mining company. How come do they have living condition problems? Quote
Smallc Posted December 25, 2012 Report Posted December 25, 2012 What I'd like to know is how the houses got to look like that in the first place. Quote
Guest Posted December 25, 2012 Report Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) What I'd like to know is how the houses got to look like that in the first place. Jacee will correct me if I'm wrong here but I believe home ownership is not an option for those living on the reserve. Given that, there's probably a lot less pride taken in how the home looks. Add to that the fact that massive unemployment means another source of self esteem is lacking, and they probably end up like that because nobody gives a toss. Edited December 25, 2012 by bcsapper Quote
Smallc Posted December 25, 2012 Report Posted December 25, 2012 Jacee will correct me if I'm wrong here but I believe home ownership is not an option for those living on the reserve. Given that, there's probably a lot less pride taken in how the home looks. Add to that the fact that massive unemployment means another source of self esteem is lacking, and they probably end up like that because nobody gives a toss. You are correct, under most treaties, private property ownership on reserve is not an option. I actually knew the answer to my own question. I'm not sure if extra funding should be given to fix houses that shouldn't be broken in the first place. Quote
Argus Posted December 25, 2012 Report Posted December 25, 2012 You are correct, under most treaties, private property ownership on reserve is not an option. I actually knew the answer to my own question. I'm not sure if extra funding should be given to fix houses that shouldn't be broken in the first place. I lived in rental housing most of my life, and we didn't let it run down, nor did management. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Bonam Posted December 25, 2012 Report Posted December 25, 2012 You are correct, under most treaties, private property ownership on reserve is not an option. That seems like a serious flaw. Quote
Argus Posted December 25, 2012 Report Posted December 25, 2012 That seems like a serious flaw. The whole reserve system is a historical relic which should have been dismantled long ago. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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