Canada's unemployed 2012

[Topaz]

It doesn't seem that the Tories are doing much with Canada's unemployed and the following chart shows the Martimes are having high unemployment and the west is enjoying the creation of work mostly from the oil sands projects. The charts say the rate is around 7.7 but that the REAL unemploment is at 9.5 and I know some part of Ontario still have double-digit unemployment. Of course, it doesn't help when the government and corporations bring in foreign workers instead of training the unemploed Canadians. http://www.hrmguide.net/canada/jobmarket/canadian-unemployment.htm

[Signals.Cpl]

It seems to me that the only place that unemployment has not gone down is Newfoundland and Labrador while every other province has cut their unemployment rate.

[PIK]

We can thank the liberal govermnet of ONT for a good chunk of that.But when the ship building takes off and the investmnent in the north and with what is Happening in the west, this country is ready to take off. Unfortunitly we people in ONT will have to suffer for many years to come.

[Newfoundlander]

It seems to me that the only place that unemployment has not gone down is Newfoundland and Labrador while every other province has cut their unemployment rate.

Newfoundland and Labrador has had the highest employment rate over the last few years and the unemployment rate has dropped a fair bit, despit it still being huge. During the recession it went up around 17% and now it is around 12%. Other employment trends have been very positive as well.

Edited December 10, 2012 by Newfoundlander

[-TSS-]

The situation here in Finland is that we have about 8% of the workforce unemployed and every day news about announcements or lay-offs. The crisis is alleviated by the fact the baby-boomers have largely been retired by now. The retirement of the baby-boomers was supposed to create a desperate labour-shortage. What it has done has only been to alleviate unemployment.

Edited December 10, 2012 by -TSS-

[CPCFTW]

"Real unemployment" in the US is 15% to 23% depending on which way you want to count (and that doesn't even include 15 y/o's as we do in Canada).

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/10/11/obamas-real-unemployment-rate-is-14-7-and-a-recessions-on-the-way/

Yes when you include discouraged workers and part-time workers who want to work full-time, the number will be higher. Thanks for the insight from the unbiased "Canadian Labour Congress"

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Employment is largely suppose to be a provincial matter. It is unfortunate provinces havn't created effective work programs for the unemployed.

[Signals.Cpl]

Newfoundland and Labrador has had the highest employment rate over the last few years and the unemployment rate has dropped a fair bit, despit it still being huge. During the recession it went up around 17% and now it is around 12%. Other employment trends have been very positive as well.

I was just saying that it was the only negative change within that timeframe shown so I don't understand understand the whole alarmist reaction.

[Newfoundlander]

I was just saying that it was the only negative change within that timeframe shown so I don't understand understand the whole alarmist reaction.

I was stating a point, that doesn't make in alarmist. You must have missed BC as well then.

[Signals.Cpl]

I was stating a point, that doesn't make in alarmist. You must have missed BC as well then.

It does make it alarmist, people don't understand that our unemployment or rather our employment is affected by the US, if the US is doing great we are too, if they are not so hot we can do a lot to mitigate the problem but at the end of the day we are greatly affected.

What bothers me is that there is all of this talk of high unemployment yet the government resorts to importing labour rather than creating more programs to offer retraining to in demand trades. I think that there would be many Canadians happy about going back to school and having a good chance to get a job at the end of it so why not invest in more and better retraining programs instead of streamlining the process to bring the in demand workers from other countries. Also it seems to me it is the same crowd crying about the high unemployment and then goes and cries about PM Harper going overseas to try and expand our trade to beyond just the US.

Edited December 11, 2012 by Signals.Cpl

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It does make it alarmist, people don't understand that our unemployment or rather our employment is affected by the US, if the US is doing great we are too, if they are not so hot we can do a lot to mitigate the problem but at the end of the day we are greatly affected.

What bothers me is that there is all of this talk of high unemployment yet the government resorts to importing labour rather than creating more programs to offer retraining to in demand trades. I think that there would be many Canadians happy about going back to school and having a good chance to get a job at the end of it so why not invest in more and better retraining programs instead of streamlining the process to bring the in demand workers from other countries. Also it seems to me it is the same crowd crying about the high unemployment and then goes and cries about PM Harper going overseas to try and expand our trade to beyond just the US.

bs, that is a policy choice, and a choice of employers, there is no 'requirement' to depend on the US economy to have jobs in Canada.

[Signals.Cpl]

bs, that is a policy choice, and a choice of employers, there is no 'requirement' to depend on the US economy to have jobs in Canada.

You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT... its not like 80%+ of our trade is with the US...

[-TSS-]

Unemployment-statistics need to be taken with a pinch of salt as unemployment always indicates failure by the government to create jobs itself or conditions for private businesses to create jobs. So all kinds of methods are being used to hide the real unemployment-rate.

[bush_cheney2004]

bs, that is a policy choice, and a choice of employers, there is no 'requirement' to depend on the US economy to have jobs in Canada.

Of course not....companies with names like GM Canada, Ford Motor Company of Canada, Raytheon Canada Limited, Home Depot Canada, Sears Canada, McDonald's Canada, Chrysler Canada, Canadian General Electric, Pratt & Whitney Canada, Walmart Canada should be shut down tomorrow.

Who needs 'em !

Edited December 18, 2012 by bush_cheney2004

[-TSS-]

The real time-bomb is youth unemployment. In Greece and in Spain it is over 50% for the under 25's.

Edited December 19, 2012 by -TSS-

[Keepitsimple]

Can anyone rationalize why Canada includes 15, 16 and 17 year olds in their unimployment statistics?

[cybercoma]

Only people that are ready, willing, and actively looking for full-time work are included in the unemployment statistics. Any 15, 16, or 17 year old that is in school full-time, cannot be included in the statistics.

Edited December 20, 2012 by cybercoma