Ralph Klein is Awarded the Order of Canada.

[kairos]

Alberta Awards Alberta.

[Merlin]

Alberta Awards Alberta.

The man has serious dementia, I don't think that is an occasion to make jokes. He did a lot for Alberta and I think that even if Layton, Ignatieff or Dion were PM that they would do the same thing by awarding him the OoC.

[Fletch 27]

Sorry, Canada awarded him that... A true parliamentarian

[kimmy]

Klein was a long-serving premier who was a dependable advocate for national unity at the federal level. He is a worthy recipient if anyone is.

-k

[wyly]

a drunken fraud who by all himself nearly destroyed alberta's healthcare...verifies the OoC is worthless...

national unity? “Let the eastern bastards freeze in the dark."- Ralph klein...butthole

Edited November 14, 2012 by wyly

[The_Squid]

One way bus tickets to BC for people on welfare. Great way to deal with social issues. First class a-hole.

[login]

PM's and Premiers should get the order by default after one term is complete, unless they loose their position due to illegality (i.e. criminal conviction) So should the grand chief / council leader.

I think that this is in part because they forever reamain in a sense a premier with special status, as well, they are privy council (for life) the argument exists that perhaps all p.c. should get the order, as it is a life long oath and duty (unless they become disqualified (are removed from privy council if that is possible..) thus the position automatically denotes a lifetime of service to the federation.

But I geuss they need to be nominated....

Edited November 14, 2012 by login

[g_bambino]

Alberta Awards Alberta.

Is that supposed to insinuate that Harper (an "Alberta man") awarded Klein (definitely an Alberta man) with appointment to the Order of Canada? If so, you must have no understanding of how the Order of Canada works.

[g_bambino]

PM's and Premiers should get the order by default after one term is complete, unless they loose their position due to illegality (i.e. criminal conviction)...

That is already essentially the case, especially for prime ministers. (Provinces have their own orders into which ex-premiers are normally appointed.)

[kairos]

[cybercoma]

He certainly deserves it. Ralph Klein is a respectable politician that a lot of other provincial leaders could learn a lot from.

[login]

Is that supposed to insinuate that Harper (an "Alberta man") awarded Klein (definitely an Alberta man) with appointment to the Order of Canada? If so, you must have no understanding of how the Order of Canada works.

From what I'm aware there is a selection committee for the order.

Edited November 15, 2012 by login

[g_bambino]

From what I'm aware there is a selection committee for the order.

Yes, there is an advisory council. The Order of Canada was set up precisely so as to be quite distant from the government and parliament; it was the first (I believe) national order of merit to be constituted that way (unlike, say, the UK's Order of the British Empire, appointments into which are approved by the Cabinet).

[Big Guy]

The Order is not for policy or politicking but for dedication. You could agree or disagree with him but never ignore him. I think he gave his life and sanity to his job. Besides, there will soon be an extra one available when they get Conrad Black’s medal back.

[Newfoundlander]

He deserves it, as do all premiers.

[kimmy]

national unity? “Let the eastern bastards freeze in the dark."- Ralph klein...butthole

That wasn't Ralph Klein. That was a National Energy Program era bumper-sticker. Klein didn't enter provincial politics until 10 years later.

-k

[kairos]

The sycophantism in many of these messages is nauseating.

Its as if Politicians didn't actually get paid for what they do. As if it was some sort of glorious sacrifice deserving of reward to be in positions of power.

[cybercoma]

The sycophantism in many of these messages is nauseating.

Its as if Politicians didn't actually get paid for what they do. As if it was some sort of glorious sacrifice deserving of reward to be in positions of power.

Of course they get paid for what they do, but the pay is not even remotely reflective of the sacrifices that are made as a public figure like Ralph Klein was.

[kairos]

Another sycophantic lackey grovelling. Pathetic.

Edited November 16, 2012 by kairos

[cybercoma]

Who are you calling a pathetic grovelling sycophant lackey? Do you even know what those words mean? Because they sure as hell don't apply to my relationship or opinions of Klein.

Edited November 16, 2012 by cybercoma

[kairos]

syc·o·phant (sk-fnt, sk-)

n.

A servile self-seeker who attempts to win favor by flattering influential people.

lack·ey (lk)

n. pl. lack·eys

1. A liveried male servant; a footman.

2. A servile follower; a toady.

v. lack·eyed, lack·ey·ing, lack·eys

v.tr.

To wait on as a footman; attend.

v.intr.

To act in a servile manner; fawn.

grov·el (grvl, grv-)

intr.v. grov·eled also grov·elled, grov·el·ing also grov·el·ling, grov·els also grov·els

1. To behave in a servile or demeaning manner; cringe.

2. To lie or creep in a prostrate position, as in subservience or humility.

3. To give oneself over to base pleasures: "Have we not groveled here long enough, eating and drinking like mere brutes?" (Walt Whitman).

Edited November 16, 2012 by kairos

[cybercoma]

And they apply here how? Other than you acting like an asshole for no apparent reason, since you haven't backed up your statement.

[guyser]

And they apply here how? Other than you acting like an asshole for no apparent reason, since you haven't backed up your statement.

But he can use Google ! Woot!

[cybercoma]

Not sure how I'm being servile to a man with Alzheimer's that lives across the country. His response seems like a pretty stupid thing to say without him explaining or contextualizing it.

[cybercoma]

And besides kairos is arguing that people shouldn't be praised for doing something when it's their job. Imagine doing a job your whole life and never being praised because your boss keeps saying, "that's what you're paid for. Get back to work."