America in 2012: Same Old Crap, Wonderful Democracy

[Smallc]

Religion is a disease of the brain. I have no use for it...or you.

[bush_cheney2004]

Religion is a disease of the brain. I have no use for it...or you.

Speak for yourself....my religion is still going strong.

[August1991]

All religious people are nut jobs if they actually take it seriously.

Do you include agnostics and non-believers as "religious people"?

But smallc, I have a much bigger question. Some people act because of a "calling", they often are "religious people". They are nuns or priests. They work as teachers, nurses or in charities. IMV, a successful civilised society has different institutions.

IOW, there is not enough money in the world if the government tries to perform the tasks of family, or religion.

Edited November 11, 2012 by August1991

[WWWTT]

Define "religious nutjobbery". Every US president, save one, has been a Protestant. According to your logic AW, anyone who is not a Protestant is a "nutjob" - because so few (1) get elected.

Beautiful August!

We disagree more than agree,but it's good to see you you are on your toes!

WWWTT

[WWWTT]

On the contrary, it was the "nutjobs" (Methodists, crazy Lutherans, Quakers) who ran away to America.

bus_cheney2004 version of history will not like!

WWWTT

[WWWTT]

He's not overly religious. He's not rich. He's not White. He's not old.

He's not getting the nomination.

WWWTT

[WWWTT]

Religion is a disease of the brain. I have no use for it...or you.

This is very harsh to say!

I find comments like this disturbing.

WWWTT

[Smallc]

I have seen people do crazy things under the influence of religion.

[August1991]

I have seen people do crazy things under the influence of religion.

And I have seen people "do crazy things" because they believe in socialism, the government as State monopoly.

[Smallc]

yeah, but, that's not the same as the sky fairy....

[Shady]

yeah, but, that's not the same as the sky fairy....

It's worse. It's the government fairy. Anyways, people have done terrible things for many reasons, religious and non-religious.

[Smallc]

But nothing is quite so convincing as religion.

[Shady]

yes, clueless nutjobs. They aren't thinking. I used to be one of those people.

And now you're a troll. Congratulaions.

[Smallc]

Because I have a rather strong opinion that you don't share, I'm a troll?

[bush_cheney2004]

Because I have a rather strong opinion that you don't share, I'm a troll?

Perhaps, as that appears to be the standard around here.

[Shady]

Because I have a rather strong opinion that you don't share, I'm a troll?

Well thought out opinions are great. Nonsensical statements for the purpose of trolling is another. That's all you've become lately. What's wrong, more relationship problems?

[Smallc]

Well thought out opinions are great. Nonsensical statements for the purpose of trolling is another. That's all you've become lately.

Yes, I know, you don't like that I saw Obama winning months before the election, and you didn't see it the day of. I don't like religion. I like it less and less all of the time. The idiotic things that people will justify in its name.

What's wrong, more relationship problems?

Massive ones, but that's completely unrelated.

[Guest American Woman]

On the contrary, it was the "nutjobs" (Methodists, crazy Lutherans, Quakers) who ran away to America.

So what, exactly, made them "nutjobs?" Just the fact that they were Methodists, Lutherans, Quakers? Furthermore, our religious "nutjob" forefathers wrote freedom of religion and separation of church and state into our government. Doesn't sound like "religious nutjobbery" to me.

Define "religious nutjobbery". Every US president, save one, has been a Protestant. According to your logic AW, anyone who is not a Protestant is a "nutjob" - because so few (1) get elected.

I'll define "religious nutjobbery" simply by pointing out that everyone who has religious beliefs is not a "nutjob." As for your conclusion about my logic, there is no logic to it as my response indicates no such thing.

[Guest American Woman]

Because I have a rather strong opinion that you don't share, I'm a troll?

Because others have a rather strong belief that you don't share, they are non-thinking, clueless nutjobs?

[Smallc]

I don't know...knowing what we know about the universe, it's pretty hard to reconcile religion....and notice that I didn't say all those who believe are nut jobs. I said people who take it seriously....as in, they think it's the real deal, by which to live your life.

[Guest American Woman]

I don't know...knowing what we know about the universe, it's pretty hard to reconcile religion....and notice that I didn't say all those who believe are nut jobs. I said people who take it seriously....as in, they think it's the real deal, by which to live your life.

You think there are people who believe in God who don't take it seriously? But of course insulting only those who "live their lives" according to their beliefs are "nut jobs" is so much better - there's nothing crazier than someone who lives their life according to the teachings of Jesus, eh? And to refresh your memory, you said that "religion is a disease of the brain," which pretty much says that all people who believe have a disease of the brain. You might want to take a good look in the mirror before you criticize and insult any religious people.

Edited November 11, 2012 by American Woman

[Smallc]

And to refresh your memory, you said that "religion is a disease of the brain," which pretty much says that all people who believe have a disease of the brain.

Pretty common view among atheists, actually. We get very frustrated when the only think standing in the way of making a sensible and just decision is the word of God.

[Guest American Woman]

Pretty common view among atheists, actually. We get very frustrated when the only think standing in the way of making a sensible and just decision is the word of God.

If that's true, it doesn't speak well of atheists - either their view, or their knowledge.

[Argus]

Conrad Black has a rather more bearish view of the US outlook and politics. I find it somewhat pessimistic but without changes, not unlikely.

A shocking $3-billion was spent to keep a failed administration and mediocre congressional leaders (House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid) in place, operating a system that is very corrupt and is almost completely dysfunctional. Almost nothing worthwhile was said during the campaign about anything substantial. There is nothing in any of it to celebrate. An incumbent president was re-elected to a second term with fewer electoral votes than he had the first time — the first time this has happened.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/11/10/conrad-black-the-obama-disaster-part-ii/

[Shady]

Conrad Black has a rather more bearish view of the US outlook and politics. I find it somewhat pessimistic but without changes, not unlikely.

A shocking $3-billion was spent to keep a failed administration and mediocre congressional leaders (House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid) in place, operating a system that is very corrupt and is almost completely dysfunctional. Almost nothing worthwhile was said during the campaign about anything substantial. There is nothing in any of it to celebrate. An incumbent president was re-elected to a second term with fewer electoral votes than he had the first time — the first time this has happened.

http://fullcomment.n...saster-part-ii/

I'm a little more optimistic, just because necessity will dictate a less dysfunctional next couple of years. But that's primarily based on Obama taking the lead on several issues, and proposing actual plans, ON PAPER, for each branch of government to negotiate over. It's really going to take presidential leadership.