Michael Hardner Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 Never has a real live human being been so similar to a Batman villain as Mr. Trump. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Mighty AC Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 Haha, well said. Trump is really a male Palin with more money. Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
betsy Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Posted October 25, 2012 Oh boy, now he's talking about Obama's passport! He wants to see it. I do hope his stunt doesn't backfire on the Republicans! Quote
Mr.Canada Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 It's hard to take anyone seriously with a haircut like that. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
PIK Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 Why would trump do this? Does he have info that he legally should not have and trying to force obama's hand? What about the reference to do with obama literary agent, about obama for 16 years saying born in kenya, raised in indonesia? I had never heard that one before. And obama's college records are sealed, is that normal? And if it is, is that why trump can't legally come out and say what is in them? Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
bud Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) Did your self-loathing increase once you realised that you had passed the point in life to get married and raise a family? All you do is project venom onto others, and it's clearly rooted in self-hatred. channeling yourself? Edited October 25, 2012 by bud Quote http://whoprofits.org/
WIP Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 Why should you start a new thread? Because your post is completely off topic, not to mention completely deranged. I think you set a record for most leftwing buzzwords in one post. Is there something wrong with your reading skills? I provided the link back to the existing "what is a Christian?" thread, so there's no need to invent a new one. What I want from fundamentalist rightwing Christians, is for them to justify their social darwinist economic theories when they swoon over creeps like Trump or Paul Ryan. Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
WIP Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) Actually, he is a billionaire: Donald Trump Net Worth $3.1 B As of September 2012 http://www.forbes.co...e/donald-trump/ Yeah, he's a billionaire if you can believe his friends at Forbes! I haven't looked that the controversy about Trump's financial dealings in about a year or so, so to refresh my memory, I first went to his Wiki page - which estimates his net worth between 2.9 and 7 billion. That sounds like a lot of money, but why such a large gap in estimated wealth? Maybe they are just taking his word at it....which as I recall was the same mistake made by many Trump investors who lost their shirts each time the Donald had a big financial scam go bankrupt! Over at The Smoking Gun, they have a story that says Trump is the most miserly billionaire....but they are basing his paltry charitable contributions on the assumption that he is actually a billionaire, and the numbers come from the Trump Foundation. What if he's been lying and misrepresenting his real net worth over the last 20 years and is actually more generous than the numbers would indicate! The Atlantic Wire actually put a reporter on the story to do a little factfinding....and discovered numbers all over the ball park from 1988 to last year. For example: March 1988: The New York Times says Trump is worth $3 billion when he buys the Plaza Hotel in Manhattan for $390 million. October 1988: Trump estimated to be worth $1 billion by Forbes magazine. July 1989: Trump's net worth estimated to be $1.5 billion--and increase of $500 million in 10 months. He makes Forbes' World Billionaires list for the first time. June 1990: Under the headline "As A Laughingstock, Donald Trump Is Paying Big Dividends," The Philadelphia Inquirer writes that Trump had had a very bad year marked by marital and financial fiasco, including the sting of ex-wife "Ivana's charge that her estranged hubby is not a billionaire but worth a mere $400 million to $600 million." July 1990: Trump was dropped from dropped from Forbes' list of the world's billionaires after the value of his real estate business plummeted. Forbes estimated he was worth about $500 million that year. Others guessed less. March 2005: Just after the first season of The Apprentice, Forbes put Trump's worth $2.6 billion, ranking him in a 15-way tie for 228th richest person in the world. October 2005: Timothy O'Brien's book TrumpNation charges that Trump is worth just $150 million to $250 million. Trump sued for defamation, and lost. 2005: Documents from the defamation suit revealed that as it was underwriting a $640 million loan to Trump to build in Chicago, Deutsche Bank estimated Trump's evaluated his net worth was $788 million. Trump disputed the number. I guess he had enough brains to let it go that time and not threaten another lawsuit! March 2011: "What's the difference between Donald Trump's hair and a wet raccoon? A wet raccoon doesn't have seven billion fucking dollars in the bank." -- Donald Trump at his Comedy Central roast. Wow, at least we know where his Wikipedia page got the 7 billion estimate from! April 2011: "If and when Donald Trump announces his decision to run for the office of the presidency, he will be filing financial disclosure statements that will show his net worth is in excess of $7 billion with more than $250 million of cash, and very little debt. He is very, very liquid, said a source with knowledge of Trump's financial holdings" -- Politico Yeah, if Politico says it, it must be true! Any chance that Trump didn't run for president,because for the first time in 25 years, the public would know what he was actually worth? But, I say the last word on Trump's bullshit....I mean financial net worth should go to Lawrence O'Donnell, because he called out Trump on being a fake billionaire....Trump threatened to sue....O'Donnell doubled down and said 'go ahead, I have the evidence to back up my claim' and Trump folded and pretended nothing happened! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RPX5EIVOTs Edited October 25, 2012 by WIP Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
Argus Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 Goof for Donald Trump, he blends patriotism and self-promotion in refreshing ways. Would that include the multiple times his companies have gone bankrupt and destroyed investors? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
punked Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 Would that include the multiple times his companies have gone bankrupt and destroyed investors? As long as they keep getting bailed out Kraychik is happy. Quote
Argus Posted October 26, 2012 Report Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) Is there something wrong with your reading skills? I provided the link back to the existing "what is a Christian?" thread, so there's no need to invent a new one. What I want from fundamentalist rightwing Christians, is for them to justify their social darwinist economic theories when they swoon over creeps like Trump or Paul Ryan. Personally, as I've posted a number of times, I don't believe they're real Christians. I don't think Romney and Ryan are Christians either. Neither of them, nor their followers, shows any concern for the poor and sick, for the elderly and helpless. All they care about it enriching themselves and seem furious that some of their money, a pittance, really, goes to helping people. Their hope seems to be that they can cut their taxes, and pay for it by letting the sick and elderly just die, and the poor starve. That's not how a Christian is supposed to think. Edited October 26, 2012 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
WIP Posted October 26, 2012 Report Posted October 26, 2012 Would that include the multiple times his companies have gone bankrupt and destroyed investors? I haven't looked it up recently, but the last time I heard, I believe it was 7 times. And, unlike average Americans, Trump was able to use the rules of corporate personhood to protect his own personal estate from ending up in bankruptcy sale. The point I made earlier regarding the controversy surrounding his real net worth is that many former investors were brought into some of his real estate, hotel and casino deals in handshake deals between friends, just under the presumption that Trump was a billionaire and had a real knowledge of business that went beyond bluster and bullshit. Considering that Trump was another one of those trust fund baby billionaires, who were born into a life of wealth and privilege, and used money they already had to make more money. It's possible that Trump has a net worth today that's actually less than what he inherited. Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
WIP Posted October 26, 2012 Report Posted October 26, 2012 Personally, as I've posted a number of times, I don't believe they're real Christians. I don't think Romney and Ryan are Christians either. Neither of them, nor their followers, shows any concern for the poor and sick, for the elderly and helpless. All they care about it enriching themselves and seem furious that some of their money, a pittance, really, goes to helping people. Their hope seems to be that they can cut their taxes, and pay for it by letting the sick and elderly just die, and the poor starve. That's not how a Christian is supposed to think. I agree, and from my own pov as a naturalist, I do not care much about what various religious believers profess to believe, as much as I am interested in how they act on those beliefs. So, nothing could make me happier than if all the people who claim to be 'Bible-believing-Christians' actually acted like they apply their spiritual beliefs in everyday life! Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
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