Guest Peeves Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 http://fullcomment.n...em-became-ours/ Why have 'they' become 'our' problem? There need be more vetting at landing sites and suspected abusers held in custody, not allowed to disembark, and sent home post haste. Certainly there is a stigma, that of crime, attached to The Roma. Just as certainly is the discrimination they face brought about by the element within that choses crime as an avocation. Canada’s uniquely welcoming refugee system makes the Roma our problem: In the first two quarters of this year, there were an absurd 1,389 claimants from Hungary — 13% of the total and nearly double the second-highest source, which was China. But it is the Roma’s situation in Eastern Europe that drives them abroad. That’s Europe’s problem. And that cradle of modern human rights can’t solve it. Crimes are committed by clans within the community. Usually well organized crimes. A coupe of dozen were recently arrested. Last month, police in Durham, Ont., east of Toronto, reported busting up a massive criminal ring, allegedly run by Romanian Roma, that among other things was practicing European-style distraction thefts on the streets of Oshawa, Ont. The cost to Canada through refugee claims is unacceptable.Once they find they have little chance under (even) our lax refugee system they return whence they came, however it can run into money. http://www.1310news....ws|Local&title= OTTAWA-Ottawa Police are working with the Durham Detachment and other police services across Ontario on what they believe is an international Romanian organized theft ring.The distraction thefts are typically aimed at seniors who are robbed of credit cards, debit cards and jewelery. The Sun reports, sixty thefts throughout the capital have been linked to the ring. police believe 150 other cases in the province are connected too. Thirty-four arrests have been made and more than 250 charges laid so far. Police have identified over 400 people with the organized thefts. $85-thousand worth of cash and stolen merchandise has been recovered by police. Over a million dollars in suspicious overseas wire transfers have been identified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 We let in Jamaican posses, Asian Triads, Italian mafioso's, American urban street gangs, Central American gangs (like MS-13), Mexican cartels, Russian mobsters, Islamic terrorists, their supporters and the like so why not let gypsies in as well. We're the laughing stock of the world. We take in all the worlds garbage that no one else wants. Any move to strengthen our immigration policy from the sieve it is now is deemed as racist. Nothing will ever change, Canada is far too socialist and will place the blame on others before themselves when a terrorist attack happens on Canadian soil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch 27 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Jason Kenney again is doing the right thing... The Roma should have been dealt with a hundred years ago.. Completely sickening culture. Forced child marriages, murderous, rape, all just in a hard day for a Roma.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 I would caution people how they refer to ethnic groups on this web site if they don't want the 'progressives' to get them suspended. I do agree that the Roma, who are a problem throughout Europe, are not a problem we want to deal with if we can avoid it. All the refugee claims have been denied, as the article states. Unfortunately, my understandin is few of the Roma actually show up for the hearings, but just disapear into the population once here. And Border Services has a poor history of being able to find such people, especially as they have no qualms moving from city to city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Imagine if someone hollered the Jews are coming. These are Jews, a culture synonymous with swindlers. The phrase ‘Jew’ and ‘cheater’ have been so interchangeable historically that they have entered the English language as a verb. ‘He jewed me!’ Well the Jews have jewed us too. And [Jews] come here [to Canada] to jew us again, to rob us blind, as they have done in Europe for centuries. These words are shocking and offensive, aren’t they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Imagine if someone hollered the Jews are coming. The Roma crimes are well documented. Eyeball you live in the sticks so no immigration has any effect on you what so ever. Why not move to Toronto to see how wonderful immigration can be? It's easy to look down your nose from your 100% or nearly 100% white enclave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Easy solution, slap Visa restrictions on Hungary. Most of the problem solved. We let in Jamaican posses, Asian Triads, Italian mafioso's, American urban street gangs, We do? Do they bget a group rate when they show up as a posse, triad or gang? Link please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 The Roma crimes are well documented. Eyeball you live in the sticks so no immigration has any effect on you what so ever. Why not move to Toronto to see how wonderful immigration can be? It's easy to look down your nose from your 100% or nearly 100% white enclave. I live next door to a reserve, on stolen land some would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 The Roma crimes are well documented. Eyeball you live in the sticks so no immigration has any effect on you what so ever. Why not move to Toronto to see how wonderful immigration can be? It's easy to look down your nose from your 100% or nearly 100% white enclave. And FYI, I'm looking down my nose at the utter sheer hypocrisy of this thread's premise not to mention the blinding irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Eyeball you live in the sticks ... nearly 100% white enclave. Says the guy who live in the sticks and is surrounded by white people. IN fact Halton demographics dont even show one %'age point for Jamiacans Nice try though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 I do agree that the Roma, who are a problem throughout Europe, are not a problem we want to deal with if we can avoid it. How are they a problem, exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Jason Kenney again is doing the right thing... The Roma should have been dealt with a hundred years ago.. Completely sickening culture. Forced child marriages, murderous, rape, all just in a hard day for a Roma.. Yeah, if only Hitler had been allowed to finish the job he started, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Says the guy who live in the sticks and is surrounded by white people. IN fact Halton demographics dont even show one %'age point for Jamiacans Nice try though! The split around here is around 50 -50 native and, various peoples of other shading (mostly pink) where I live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 How are they a problem, exactly? Apparently they're just like Jews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 How are they a problem, exactly? Irish travellors are a problem for the Irish, same as in Britain.Thievery, caravans,welfare, criminality seem to be a favourite pastime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) How are they a problem, exactly? I think if you read some of the comments on the OP's cite, you will see. But you can also read this. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8226580.stm I remember watching a documentary the BBC did on a couple of Roma girls. They followed them around, filmed them as they stole things, shoplifted, picked pockets, snatched purses, etc. These girls were about twelve or so. Anyway, one of them was about to get married, and the documentary explained that her family was able to command a much better price for her because she was considered a talented money earner. Edited October 12, 2012 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 I think if you read some of the comments on the OP's cite, you will see. And what about some of the other comments from the cited site, like the one's I pointed to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 I think if you read some of the comments on the OP's cite, you will see. I take it you don't believe in any sort of refugee system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 I take it you don't believe in any sort of refugee system? We dont have an immigration system we let everyone in, even criminals. All are welcome to Canada. Any move to change that is shouted down with accusations of racism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 We dont have an immigration system we let everyone in, even criminals. Citation needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 And what about some of the other comments from the cited site, like the one's I pointed to? Any time you target a specific group you have to be careful about what you say, and whether there's actually evidence to back it up or it's simply based on suspicion of 'the other'. But I think we've seen an awful lot of evidence from European police and social welfare agencies which shows a common set of issues with the Roma and their lifestyle. Btw, I edited the post you referred to to add another cite from the BBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) I take it you don't believe in any sort of refugee system? I do indeed believe in a refugee system. But I'm more of a traditionalist in how I interpet a refugee. Someone who is being harshly and violently persecuted by their government would qualify. I don't think the Roma qualify. I don't deny there is persecution and that the Roma are despised in many parts of Europe. But unfortunately, it's their lifestyle, and as they've come to Canada what we've seen here is not that they've settled down and tried to find jobs but that much those old social ills, including crime, have followed. http://news.bbc.co.u...000/9618038.stm Edited October 12, 2012 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) Citation needed What's the criteria for entry into Canada? Be from a third world country and breathing? That's what it seems like. The Roma and not from third world countries and aren't violently persecuted by governments. Edited October 12, 2012 by Mr.Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Any time you target a specific group you have to be careful about what you say Go tell that to Ezra Levant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 I disagree Argus. Why must we tip toe around certain racial groups? Why not just call it like we see it? We need some straight talk instead of people being scared to say what they mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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