Sandra Fluke

[JerrySeinfeld]

Wait one minute. Tell us why you think insurance companies shouldn't pay for medication? Just cause isn't an answer. Is it because she is a women and they aren't really people or is there an actual reason?

"Medication"? :lol: :lol:

Edited September 9, 2012 by JerrySeinfeld

[punked]

"Medication"? :lol: :lol:

Yes medication. Preventive health care saves lives, I know they don't matter to you because they are just women and they aren't real people to you but just because you aren't a women doesn't mean women shouldn't have it. It is their choice if they take it not yours, and not insurance companies. It is their decision which is why Mitt Romney made it mandatory that insurance companies cover it.

Lets not mention when birth control use goes up abortions go down.

No wait let me try an argument that you might understand. JUST CAUSE. Now are you a democrat because I used that sweet sweet Mitt Romney arguement.

Edited September 9, 2012 by punked

[JerrySeinfeld]

Yes medication. Preventive health care saves lives, I know they don't matter to you because they are just women and they aren't real people to you but just because you aren't a women doesn't mean women shouldn't have it. It is their choice if they take it not yours, and not insurance companies. It is their decision which is why Mitt Romney made it mandatory that insurance companies cover it.

Lets not mention when birth control use goes up abortions go down.

If you don't ant to get pregnant, buy some birth control or don't have sex. Plenty of choices. Why should anybody else pay for your sex life.

Guys buy their own condoms.

Edited September 9, 2012 by JerrySeinfeld

[punked]

If you don't ant to get pregnant, buy some birth control of don't have sex. Plenty of choices. Why should anybody else pay for your sex life.

Guys buy their own condoms.

No one is paying for your sex life. In fact when insurance companies cover birth control costs go down because it costs a lot more to cover a women giving birth in a hospitable then the 9 dollars a month. What people would be paying is higher rates because the insurance company isn't covering the birth control.

Ouch another swing and another miss. Here is the research pointing out that people would be paying for not covering birth control not the other way around.

http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/2012/contraceptives/ib.shtml

[JerrySeinfeld]

No one is paying for your sex life. In fact when insurance companies cover birth control costs go down because it costs a lot more to cover a women giving birth in a hospitable then the 9 dollars a month. What people would be paying is higher rates because the insurance company isn't covering the birth control.

Ouch another swing and another miss. Here is the research pointing out that people would be paying for not covering birth control not the other way around.

http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/2012/contraceptives/ib.shtml

That's a reasonable point. It's a much better argument than the "women should force catholic institutions to pay for something that's against their conscience" dribble that Fluke trots, out.

[Bitsy]

Wow, a lot of space devoted to one of the most trivial issues so far on this campaign.

Unless Obama forgot his flag pin again....that almost destroyed America.

Couple all that with the no balloon drop at the DNC, I am surprised that we are still standing.

[Bitsy]

Why should insurance companies pay for Viagra?

[GostHacked]

Who? And does it matter?

[Guest American Woman]

Guys buy their own condoms.

Guys don't need a prescription or medical exam for condoms; it's not even a medication, and insurance policies don't even cover over-the-counter meds.

[kimmy]

Here's a question: Just who the hell does Sandra Fluke think she is?

It's clear who she is: she's an activist who causes right-wing kooks to flip their shit.

Since when is it society's job to finance a 31 year old's woman's sex life?

It's not "society", it's her insurance plan.

There's a reasonable argument to be made as to whether the government has any business forcing people to be insured, or dictating what their insurance plans cover. However, if one starts making religious exceptions, then it's only a matter of time before people start selling a share of their company to the Church of Christ Scientists so that their insurance only has to cover splints and prayer.

She got up in front of millions of people asking for money to shag, so, yes I take her at her word.

I have never heard a single conservative acknowledge the fact that the same Catholic institutions crying about insurance covering birth control cover Viagra without complaint, and are proud of it. Now... by your logic, by asking contraception to be covered by insurance, Sandra Fluke is asking to be paid to have sex, making her a prostitute. By the same logic, these Catholic institutions are giving men money to have sex, so what does that make them?

Whatever the case, I hope that Douche Dimbaugh and the kook wing of the Republican party go after Sandra Fluke just like they did back in February. It will cost them the election. Go Jerry, Go!

-k

[Bitsy]

Chances are if the Republicans had let her testify before the committee, Sandra Fluke would never have been heard from again.

[punked]

Chances are if the Republicans had let her testify before the committee, Sandra Fluke would never have been heard from again.

Republicans allow a women to speak to them in public. Not in their committees on women's issue that is for sure the all male committee listening to all male voices know what women need better then they do.

[bleeding heart]

It's clear who she is: she's an activist who causes right-wing kooks to flip their shit.

This alone would have sufficed. And yet you go on:

There's a reasonable argument to be made as to whether the government has any business forcing people to be insured, or dictating what their insurance plans cover. However, if one starts making religious exceptions, then it's only a matter of time before people start selling a share of their company to the Church of Christ Scientists so that their insurance only has to cover splints and prayer.

Ha!

Best passage of the day, hands down.

[Signals.Cpl]

That's a reasonable point. It's a much better argument than the "women should force catholic institutions to pay for something that's against their conscience" dribble that Fluke trots, out.

So this is where Catholic institutions draw the line? I would have thought it would be when they caught their priests with little kids would have been the line in the sand.

[jacee]

If you don't ant to get pregnant, buy some birth control or don't have sex. Plenty of choices. Why should anybody else pay for your sex life.

Guys buy their own condoms.

:lol:

Sluts

[dre]

So this is where Catholic institutions draw the line? I would have thought it would be when they caught their priests with little kids would have been the line in the sand.

I dont imagine priests are allowed to wear condoms when they bugger small children, but if they do I guess they buy their own

[JerrySeinfeld]

:lol:

Sluts

so? you call a guy a slut you don't see him getting his tights all in a knot now do you?

Edited September 10, 2012 by JerrySeinfeld

[JerrySeinfeld]

It's clear who she is: she's an activist who causes right-wing kooks to flip their shit.

It's not "society", it's her insurance plan.

There's a reasonable argument to be made as to whether the government has any business forcing people to be insured, or dictating what their insurance plans cover. However, if one starts making religious exceptions, then it's only a matter of time before people start selling a share of their company to the Church of Christ Scientists so that their insurance only has to cover splints and prayer.

I have never heard a single conservative acknowledge the fact that the same Catholic institutions crying about insurance covering birth control cover Viagra without complaint, and are proud of it. Now... by your logic, by asking contraception to be covered by insurance, Sandra Fluke is asking to be paid to have sex, making her a prostitute. By the same logic, these Catholic institutions are giving men money to have sex, so what does that make them?

Whatever the case, I hope that Douche Dimbaugh and the kook wing of the Republican party go after Sandra Fluke just like they did back in February. It will cost them the election. Go Jerry, Go!

-k

Erectile Dysfunction is a medical problem. Pregnancy is not.

[bleeding heart]

so? you call a guy a slut you don't see him getting his tights all in a knot now do you?

That's because, as you well know, jacee was joking, unlike the shivering little mouthbreathers to whom she is alluding; and, as you also know full well, the word "slut" only truly applies to women, especially as a negative.

[guyser]

so? you call a guy a slut you don't see him getting his tights all in a knot now do you?

Nope, just a knot in his tights

[guyser]

Erectile Dysfunction is a medical problem. Pregnancy is not.

Sorry, incorrect.

Both are medical conditions.

[Guest American Woman]

Erectile Dysfunction is a medical problem. Pregnancy is not.

The pill is a prescription medication, so preventing pregnancy by way of the pill is a medical issue.

[Black Dog]

Erectile Dysfunction is a medical problem. Pregnancy is not.

Spoken like one who has experienced one and not the other.

[Signals.Cpl]

Erectile Dysfunction is a medical problem. Pregnancy is not.

So you want the government to pay for you to have sex?

[bleeding heart]

So you want the government to pay for you to have sex?

Well, sure...he's male. The distinction matters.