Provinces, should they have more power?

[Newfoundlander]

They are all clearly right win. The MEI was run by Maxime Bernier. Seriously I am not trying to be difficult here but those sources are terrible I will read them later anyway.

So the idea should be discredited because supposedly right wingers are the only ones interested?

[TheNewTeddy]

I've changed the wording in my original post

[punked]

So the idea should be discredited because supposedly right wingers are the only ones interested?

It should raise your eyebrows that the only articles you find are from penned by those organizations whose income is financed by those who stand to profit from privatization of this service yes. It scares me that you do not see a problem with that.

I can write a paper tomorrow saying all tax money should be funneled into the construction of only bridges. You might think I have a crazy position until you look and find out that all my think tanks financing comes from the bridge building association.

Do you understand what I am saying. Those articles you link to don't mean crap because the organizations that write them are financed by people who stand to profit from the ideas public be damned.

[WWWTT]

How/Why?

The US style of power sharing has many problems as I am sure that you are aware of.Lack of consistency being one of the biggest one that comes to mind.

As well the US style of power distribution is able to barley work because of the number and relatively smaller states making up the entire US.No single state has a significant leverage over any other.However Ontario and Quebec have great advantage over lesser populated provinces.

This would be very risky to implement and in my opinion I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for this to happen.

WWWTT

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[Newfoundlander]

It should raise your eyebrows that the only articles you find are from penned by those organizations whose income is financed by those who stand to profit from privatization of this service yes. It scares me that you do not see a problem with that.

I can write a paper tomorrow saying all tax money should be funneled into the construction of only bridges. You might think I have a crazy position until you look and find out that all my think tanks financing comes from the bridge building association.

Do you understand what I am saying. Those articles you link to don't mean crap because the organizations that write them are financed by people who stand to profit from the ideas public be damned.

Well I'd hardly expect the Broabent institute to write a paper on privatizing a service. I thought the idea made perfect sense before reading any of these articles and no private company is secretly funneling me money to say it on this forum.

[punked]

Well I'd hardly expect the Broabent institute to write a paper on privatizing a service. I thought the idea made perfect sense before reading any of these articles and no private company is secretly funneling me money to say it on this forum.

Why does it make sense? That is my point why?

[Newfoundlander]

Why does it make sense? That is my point why?

One thing they have a monopoly on numerous aspects of mail delivery, the service is not efficient, it cost the taxpayers a fortune, they're now losing money and their prices are increasing. As well I'd much prefer FedEx delivering parcels to my door then having to go to my mailbox to get a slip, then trying to get to the post office when they're open to pick up my parcel.

I want a better service and Canada Post in its current form seems incapable of providing it.

Edited August 26, 2012 by Newfoundlander

[punked]

One thing they have a monopoly on numerous aspects of mail delivery, the service is not efficient, it cost the taxpayers a fortune, they're now losing money and their prices are increasing. As well I'd much prefer FedEx delivering parcels to my door then having to go to my mailbox to get a slip, then trying to get to the post office when they're open to pick up my parcel.

I want a better service and Canada Post in its current form seems incapable of providing it.

So the way you improve that is to make them compete in profitable routes and that only they have to deliver to the ones you have to take a loss on. The people in Goosebay need a delivery service it isn't an option.

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[GoodGrief]

I think BC should have the right to get royalties for oil going through the pipeline.

After all, they do have more risk than Alberta. In a capitalist society, isn't risk supposed to be associated with a higher potential gain?

1) According to America, we are socialists.

2) I think it's amusing that to add insult to injury, British Colombians pay an extra tax on their gas.

3) Take it up with the oil companies.

4) Cry some more.

Edited September 20, 2012 by GoodGrief

[jacee]

Why should they get Alberta's royalties if a private company wants to build a pipeline?

If there's no pipeline there's nowhere to pump the oil to, Alberta won't have royalties.

BC could improve Alberta's royalties ... or not.

[Benz]

I'm a huge "Province Rights" person, to the point that I'd like to see the feds in charge of Defence, Tariffs, Canada Post The Postal System and Rules, Currency, Equalization (reduced) and the Federal Debt, while the Provinces do just about everything else. This was outlined and supported in the "Allaire Report"

I have met, however, people who think the Provinces should be abolished. I am curious if anyone here feels that way and could articulate as to why? Personally I think this is a terrible idea.

You have there, 90% of what I expect from Canada to be. Perhaps you'll eventually figure that the sovereignists are not the enemies you think they are.

Yep pretty much an American State/Federal relationship that you are looking for.

In my opinion this would destroy Canada!

WWWTT

Why? They are more united than us.

As well the US style of power distribution is able to barley work because of the number and relatively smaller states making up the entire US.No single state has a significant leverage over any other.However Ontario and Quebec have great advantage over lesser populated provinces.

hum... California vs Rhode Island...?

[August1991]

I think BC should have the right to get royalties for oil going through the pipeline.

After all, they do have more risk than Alberta. In a capitalist society, isn't risk supposed to be associated with a higher potential gain?

Like Labrador electricity getting to the US requires the approval of the Quebec governnment, the oil won't get to the Pacific Ocean unless the BC government agrees. In both cases, the "real" natural resource is access to a market.

In a capitalist society, one can sell a claim to a resource to the highest bidder. The BC government has only to negotiate a price.

Why should they get Alberta's royalties if a private company wants to build a pipeline?

By definition, governments collect royalties from private companies. The royalties intend to collect a natural resource rent. The source of the rent is not always obvious.

I wouldn't so much abolish the idea of provinces but I'd reconfigure their borders and create more based on natural bioregional lines that divide our lands and seascape. This would rationalize their environmental management which should mesh more naturally with their economic management - provinces would be defined by their natural physical characteristics such as watershed boundaries and islands (i.e Vancouver Island) for example.

I think more smaller regional governments would lead to better accountability simply because centres of power would be physically closer to the populations they administer. It simply be a lot easier for people to go down to their regional capital and voice their discontent in person.

This is an interesting idea - loaded with impossible history.

In many ways, Montreal should be separate from Quebec. Northern Ontario (north of Sudbury/North Bay) is distinct from southern Ontario. Vancouver Island is different from the southern mainland. Northern BC is more like Alberta.

Hamburg is a separate state within the German federation so I don't see why Toronto could also not be a province.

[Shady]

It should raise your eyebrows that the only articles you find are from penned by those organizations whose income is financed by those who stand to profit from privatization of this service yes.

You mean taxpayers?

[August1991]

I'm a huge "Province Rights" person, to the point that I'd like to see the feds in charge of Defence, Tariffs, Canada Post The Postal System and Rules, Currency, Equalization (reduced) and the Federal Debt, while the Provinces do just about everything else. This was outlined and supported in the "Allaire Report".

I reckon that teh Allaire Report was a non-starter: Canada no longer existed except to calculate and distribute equalization payments. Good luck with that.

If I were to make any change to our constituution, it would be this: remove the federal spending power and do as the Americans, give residual powers to the provinces.

A federal state and strong provincial governments are a good guarantee of a civilized society. As Trudeau said, create counterweights.

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IME, it is typical of people in southern Ontario to view "Canada" as "southern Ontario". (I don't know where Topaz lives but her/his viewpoint is an example.) In fact, Canada is much, much more than Ontario, than the federal government or certainly than the federal PM.

Outside southern Ontario, people understand perfectly well that their place is one thing, and Canada is something else. For most Canadians, the federal government is only one aspect of the Canadian State, and an even smaller aspect of this thing called "Canada".

As I have said here before, Canada works best when Canadians (people in Canada) are not forced to choose between "their place" and "Canada". I think Stephen Harper is acutely aware of this point and that makes him a successful federal politician.

Edited September 24, 2012 by August1991

[CPCFTW]

Why should electronics companies sell their products to retailers at a fraction of the retail price? Because without retailers there is no market.

You can't actually believe this..

You think there is no market without retailers?

[TheNewTeddy]

I reckon that teh Allaire Report was a non-starter: Canada no longer existed except to calculate and distribute equalization payments. Good luck with that.

I'd actually support a Federal Government that does something more along the lines of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union#Competences

Move Energy and the Environment to the "supporting" area

Edited September 24, 2012 by TheNewTeddy