Homeschooling

[guyser]

And why is that?

Cuz he is a recently fired Private School Teacher?

[Bonam]

putting kids in private schools is probably the biggest waste of cash one can make, it doesn't say much for the parents critical thinking ability...

For an average child, that may be true. But for people with unique abilities or challenges, private schools can provide a much better environment. For example, I was small for my grade, nerdy, too smart for my own good, and not very social in my first few years of school. This, of course, engendered constant bullying, to the point that school in grade 3 was basically unbearable. Then in grade 4 my parents sent me to a private school for "gifted learners". We were all pretty quirky there compared to your average elementary schooler, but I could finally socialize with people, and stopped being a hopeless repressed introvert. By the time I got to high school, I was much more confident and sociable, and of course getting straight As and was 3 years ahead in math and science. Had I stayed in public school, the outcome would have been far different. The $10k or so that my parents spent for that particular private school was money well spent, and may even have literally saved my life.

[Bonam]

putting kids in private schools is probably the biggest waste of cash one can make, it doesn't say much for the parents critical thinking ability...

For an average child, that may be true. But for people with unique abilities or challenges, private schools can provide a much better environment. For example, I was small for my grade, nerdy, too smart for my own good, and not very social in my first few years of school. This, of course, engendered constant bullying, to the point that school in grade 3 was basically unbearable. Then in grade 4 my parents sent me to a private school for "gifted learners". We were all pretty quirky there compared to your average elementary schooler, but I could finally socialize with people, and stopped being a hopeless repressed introvert. By the time I got to high school, I was much more confident and sociable, and of course getting straight As and was 3 years ahead in math and science. Had I stayed in public school, the outcome would have been far different. The $10k or so that my parents spent for that particular private school was money well spent, and may even have literally saved my life.

Edit: And it would have been worth it if all it had done was saved me exposure to just one public school teacher like our friend "socialist" here

[betsy]

Here is one very good reason why our children should be homeschooled. To protect them from schoolboard lunacy!

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=21468&st=0#entry829834

[betsy]

Here is another one. Actually, parents should start doing their protests - you've got to fight for your parental rights!

ONTARIO FATHER SUES ONTARIO SCHOOLBOARD FOR NOT ACCOMODATING HIS RELIGIOUS BELIEF

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/father-sues-ontario-school-board-for-not-accommodating-his-religious-beliefs/article4533186/?cmpid=rss1

I think the title is not accurate. This is not about accomodating religion, really.

The bottom line: it is about a parent's right to have a say on the kind of values you want to teach to your children. You have the right to withdraw your children from classes that usurps or question your own values. The school does not have the right to enforce its contentious lessons to your children.

[socialist]

Here is another one. Actually, parents should start doing their protests - you've got to fight for your parental rights!

ONTARIO FATHER SUES ONTARIO SCHOOLBOARD FOR NOT ACCOMODATING HIS RELIGIOUS BELIEF

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/father-sues-ontario-school-board-for-not-accommodating-his-religious-beliefs/article4533186/?cmpid=rss1

I think the title is not accurate. This is not about accomodating religion, really.

The bottom line: it is about a parent's right to have a say on the kind of values you want to teach to your children. You have the right to withdraw your children from classes that usurps or question your own values. The school does not have the right to enforce its contentious lessons to your children.

I can tell you for FACT that there is nothing being learned in public schools that is detrimental to the good of students. Public schools prepare kids to become tolerant, environmentally conscious global citizens. This parent is just a kook.

[wyly]

I can tell you for FACT that there is nothing being learned in public schools that is detrimental to the good of students. Public schools prepare kids to become tolerant, environmentally conscious global citizens. This parent is just a kook.

part of the problem you're facing is that you're debating with people who haven't set foot in a school in decades, they have no inkling of what goes on and how the education of children has evolved...

some the members here haven't been in a school for 40 or 50 yrs...for them any change is bewildering, therefore if they don't comprehend it it must be bad...

i went to a meet the teachers night at wyly jr's new school last night, the same school his older siblings had attended just 7 yrs before...the changes in those 7 years were remarkable(no more textbooks for one!)...I toured the classes listening to the teachers explain how things are done and I was envious of the little buggers I wanted to be a kid again, today's schools are awesome compared to when I was kid trying to avoid a whack or a slap from a teacher...

[dre]

I think that we need a strong universal education system, and pretty much every country thats progressed beyond "mud hut technology" has had one. But I think that if some people want to homeschool, then they should certainly be allowed to do that. If a large number of people did though we would be in trouble as a nation.

[wyly]

I think that we need a strong universal education system, and pretty much every country thats progressed beyond "mud hut technology" has had one. But I think that if some people want to homeschool, then they should certainly be allowed to do that. If a large number of people did though we would be in trouble as a nation.

and thats why we have one of the best educational systems in the world...home schooling can work but very few of us could do it as well as our public schools do...

[socialist]

part of the problem you're facing is that you're debating with people who haven't set foot in a school in decades, they have no inkling of what goes on and how the education of children has evolved...

some the members here haven't been in a school for 40 or 50 yrs...for them any change is bewildering, therefore if they don't comprehend it it must be bad...

i went to a meet the teachers night at wyly jr's new school last night, the same school his older siblings had attended just 7 yrs before...the changes in those 7 years were remarkable(no more textbooks for one!)...I toured the classes listening to the teachers explain how things are done and I was envious of the little buggers I wanted to be a kid again, today's schools are awesome compared to when I was kid trying to avoid a whack or a slap from a teacher...

Interesting wyly. Mind me asking how things are done in your kid's school? Sounds like some neat things happening. I understand that the people on here arguing me are fossils and don't understand learners of today.

[wyly]

Interesting wyly. Mind me asking how things are done in your kid's school? Sounds like some neat things happening.

I wouldn't know what to tell you,I assumed this was being done all across the country ask me and I'll see what I can find out...classes structure seems to be very informal kids have a lot freedom for creativity...there's an internet connection D2L(Desire 2 Learn) between the home and school; class, teacher and parents(parents becoming more involved in the child's education), text books are online though ESL kids and kids without computers are still given text books...esl and special needs have priority for extra attention should they request it...

the schools mission- A modern Junior High School. Computer and other technology is integrated into the curriculum to prepare students for the work place of the future.

the technology stuff is impressive for a an old fossil like me, but I'm a fan the proactive inclusion of the entire student body and the drama class that's more than drama...

I can pm the school website if you want enquirer directly to the school...

[socialist]

Wowzers! looking back at this invigorating thread makes me realize how radical and out of touch I was. But everything I said especially about technology ere things I heard fro the educational establishment.

Thanks to Mike Hardner for digging ip this 3 year old thread. I see my past is being heavily scrutinized by the scrutineers.

Edited August 15, 2015 by socialist

[BubberMiley]

Looking back, can you see why few people believed you were a real character in the first place? Creative writing is hard to get just right. Creating a real three-dimensional character takes a lot of skill. Sometimes people get better with practice, but I didn't see much progress in your ability to pull it off.

[socialist]

Looking back, can you see why few people believed you were a real character in the first place? Creative writing is hard to get just right. Creating a real three-dimensional character takes a lot of skill. Sometimes people get better with practice, but I didn't see much progress in your ability to pull it off.

I wasn't being a character, so your theory is dead wrong.

[BubberMiley]

I wasn't being a character, so your theory is dead wrong.

Uh huh.

[socialist]

Uh huh.

Anyway, your tinfoil theories are a waste of everyone's time. Please post something substantial worth discussing instead of this constant stream of paranoia.

[BubberMiley]

Anyway, your tinfoil theories are a waste of everyone's time. Please post something substantial worth discussing instead of this constant stream of paranoia.

Actually you bumped this thread to discuss your idiocy. I thought I was staying on-topic.

[socialist]

Actually you bumped this thread to discuss your idiocy. I thought I was staying on-topic.

Actually, for some reason, Mike Hardener dug this up from the 3 year old archives. I had totally forgotten about it.

[waldo]

Actually you bumped this thread to discuss your idiocy. I thought I was staying on-topic.

for the thread win!

[WIP]

Wowzers! looking back at this invigorating thread makes me realize how radical and out of touch I was. But everything I said especially about technology ere things I heard fro the educational establishment.

Thanks to Mike Hardner for digging ip this 3 year old thread. I see my past is being heavily scrutinized by the scrutineers.

You've said twice that MH dug up this thread, yet this is the first new post in three years on this thread!

I don't pay attention to fights between forum members, but the reason why there is bipartisan skepticism about your convictions and authenticity is because you post dogmatic, inflammatory statements like the OP, without supporting evidence or justifications for your views. And now, apparently you've switched polarity and are arguing the other side, but still not showing your homework!

I've changed my opinions on issues too since I first signed up here 7 years ago. At that time, I think I lost appreciation for libertarianism and was transitioning to some sort of liberalism. I was mostly oblivious to the intrigues of empire that underly all of the foreign policy issues that get superficial treatment in the media. And I certainly was a fan of "new atheism" when I first arrived here, since that was the main subject I was posting on, and.....I'm no longer a fan!

But, even though I've been in and out over the years, sometimes taking long absences between any activity here, I can show the reasons why my worldview has shifted over the years from more or less mainstream thinking to the radical leftist views of my youth, that I thought I left behind by my mid-20's.

So, if you want to prove that you are a flesh&blood thinking member of society, show your evidence and the reasons for what you believe now, and why they are different from three years ago. It's not important whether or not anyone agrees now or then. What's important is having what are hopefully justifiable reasons for those beliefs.