human rights watch report on syria and the state department

[bush_cheney2004]

i'm surprised i haven't seen the line, "push the jews into the sea" in this thread. that's always a favourite of the israeli apologists.

I'm surprised you don't have enough courage to stand in the way of an IDF Caterpillar D-9, like American, Rachel Corrie.

when numerous human rights organizations conclude that israel violates human rights time and time again (including human rights watch, amnesty international and israel's own btselem), then it makes it difficult to take you guys seriously.

Oh, we're serious alright, to the tune of billions of dollars each year going to Israel, Jordan, and Egypt. All you can do is type on a keyboard in Vancouver.

hey check this out, palestinian home demolition by israel on palestinian land, making way for jewish only homes:

Well you know what they say, you can't stop progress!

[DogOnPorch]

Notice bud has made Syria about Israel...lol.

When's the next blockade running attempt? Those are fun.

[Signals.Cpl]

Notice bud has made Syria about Israel...lol.

When's the next blockade running attempt? Those are fun.

Its an obsession of his, he turns everything in to an anti-Israel thing.

[DogOnPorch]

Its an obsession of his, he turns everything in to an anti-Israel thing.

It's all about the justice, dontchaknow?

[Guest Peeves]

Its an obsession of his, he turns everything in to an anti-Israel thing.

Sort of like when Hitler turned (pretty much) everything into an anti-Jew thing.

Actually he's quite comical in his endeavors. He's so patently inadequate and jejune as to be embarrassing to a real bigot.

He or she or it is a real amateur at best. Taking a post like this and attempting to make it a successful attack on Israel is beyond his/her abilities.

[bud]

there there zionbots.

don't feel so threatened by someone who shows the hypocrisy and double standards of the united states government and other western governments. they might be afraid to speak out against israel and the israeli lobby, but more and more people are talking about the big elephant in the room; the immoral, unethical and dangerous zionist government that has been leading israel. this includes many jews who live outside of israel who are becoming louder and louder about israel's actions.

just remember, the western governments also looked the other way and apologized when apartheid south africa was severely violating human rights, but the pressure from the people of the world changed that. israel's carte blanche is going to end. it's just a matter of when and when it does, you'll be the ones standing outside like the supporters and apologists of the nazi government, slavery and apartheid south africa.

[bush_cheney2004]

don't feel so threatened by someone who shows the hypocrisy and double standards of the united states government and other western governments. they might be afraid to speak out against israel and the israeli lobby, but more and more people are talking about the big elephant in the room; the immoral, unethical and dangerous zionist government that has been leading israel. this includes many jews who live outside of israel who are becoming louder and louder about israel's actions.

Talk is cheap...until you and your apologist ilk start ponying up the dollars for Palestinians like the "united states government" and other "western governments" you don't matter.

just remember, the western governments also looked the other way and apologized when apartheid south africa was severely violating human rights, but the pressure from the people of the world changed that.

You forgot the beginning of the apartheid story wherein Canada taught South Africa how to do it.

[Signals.Cpl]

there there zionbots.

You aren't very bright or original are you?

don't feel so threatened by someone who shows the hypocrisy and double standards of the united states government and other western governments.

Yes hides the double standard and hypocrisy of supporting terrorists.

they might be afraid to speak out against israel and the israeli lobby, but more and more people are talking about the big elephant in the room;

Big elephant, you mean you? Don't flatter yourself you aren't that important.

the immoral, unethical and dangerous zionist government that has been leading israel.

But ignoring the immoral murderous pieces of garbage who have been terrorizing Israel, you support terrorists attacking a nation and oppose the giving the nation the right to protect itself...

this includes many jews who live outside of israel who are becoming louder and louder about israel's actions.

Surprisingly very few Palestinians oppose the terrorists who attack Israel...

just remember, the western governments also looked the other way and apologized when apartheid south africa was severely violating human rights, but the pressure from the people of the world changed that.

So when are the "people of the world" going to make the terrorists stop attacking Israel?

israel's carte blanche is going to end.

I agree, mainly because it doesn't have one, except in the "minds" of people like you...

it's just a matter of when and when it does, you'll be the ones standing outside like the supporters and apologists of the nazi government, slavery and apartheid south africa.

You aren't very well versed in History are you?

[Rue]

I will respond directly to your comments I placed in quotes:

"a person would have to feel threatened by you, in order for you to be considered a meanie, therefore, a 'big meanie' you are not."

First off I was addressing American Woman not you. Secondly I was being sarcastic and you are trying to take something clearly said sarcastically and debate it. Once again you show you have no ability to even take the effort to focus your alleged debate on anything relevant.

You then stated the following:

"peeves' comments about jews and israelis are my reason for thinking he is a zionist jew or possibly a bible thumping christian."

No but your above comments show you label anyone that does not agree with you as a Jew, Israeli or bible thumping Christian and

once again prove my point you are nothing but a bigot, someone who comes on this forum to stereotype and label people and incite hated in this stereotyping exercise.

The fact you can not resist labelling people speaks for itself and it vividly evidences why I said in my opinion you are a troll and a bigot.

Then you stated;

" maybe he's not jewish. that's fine. there is nothing wrong with being or not being jewish, or christian or muslim."

Oh my how tolerant of you. You spew out stereotypes of people's religion or political nationality because they disagree with you then say there is nothing wrong with being Jewish, Christian or Muslim oops but you deliberately omitted the word Israeli. Not only did you once again show how insincere and patronizing you are but you just could not miss the opportunity to once again show you are on this forum to piss on oh wait now, never mind what you said, just Israelis. right.

Then you state:

"but there is something wrong with someone who is willing to stomp on another group of people's rights in favour of another."

Right this coming from someone who tries to deal with the situation in Syria by delibeately ignoring the subject and trying to switch it to pissing on Israel. This coming from someone who will not criticize Hamas' terrorism and how it stomped on the rights of Palestinians and massacered them to wrestle control of Gaza from them through violence and intimidation-this coming from someone who apologizes for Syria, Iran, Hamas and terrorists. Right. Oh how credible.

Let me put it to you straight as can be. In your world you piss on Israel, no other country, no other group that engages in anything as you just stated will you criticize. Wait I take that back, if it has to do with the US you will criticize it as well.

Oh but wait you could not resist spewing once again another negative stereotype to incite hatred and I quote:

"these people usually use their religion or ethnic background as a reason to group themselves and to rationalize their racist,

unethical and immoral behaviour."

These people. Oh who do you mean. Bible thumping Christians, Jews, Israelis, or a mix thereof or do you just mean Jews. Oh wait, it doesn't matter....you just spew your stereotypes and when called out on them wiggle and waggle and in one breath say there is nothing wrong with Jews, then in the next breath refer to them as "these people". Oh but wait, you only mean Zionist Jews. No wait, you only mean Zionist Christians. No wait you only mean Zionists. No wait...does it matter, you once again reduce yourself to a name calling bigot, a one trick pony whose sole contribution on this board is to spew venom at Israel ad nauseum and then have the chutzbah to say I rave and rant because I call you out, challenge each and every word of yours and challenge you and your hatred. Oh Buddy boy when you make comments like THESE PEOPLE you say it all.

Oh but wait now you state:

"pulling out the racism card in order to shut down criticism of israel does not work as well as it used to."

I want you to pull out one quote, one sentence where I have ever called you a racist. What I call you is an anti-semite when you make sweeping stereotypes against Jews. No Buddy Boy, unlike you, I do not refer to Jews as a race. You do. You are the one who calls Zionism racism. I have stated to you over and over again Jews are not a race. We are a collective of people of many races.

Your hatred for our collective identity, our desire to be a collective people is anti-semitic because you choose to use references that do not distinguish Jews from those Jews who want to be known as Jews in a collective political sense.

In your world Muslims can have nations, Christians can have nations, India can have a Hindu nation, there can be Buddhist nations and an Anglican nation, but never a Jewish one and that makes you a bigot pure and simple-a nasty, one trick pony who comes on this board and tries to spew hatred against Jews in particular, but anyone else including Christians, Americans or supporters of Israel because they will not buy into your rigid, hateful method of creating a double standard in the Middle East where what Hamas does is acceptable but what Israel does is not.

You stated:

"sorry little buddy. people are no longer afraid of speaking out against israel's despicable treatment of palestinians."

Buddy Boy that device does not work. Trying to hide in a pack and refer to yourself as "people" is a worn out strategy of yours in debates. You are not people. You are an individual. You speak for yourself. This is about you and your opinions and the hatred you spew, not anyone else. Stop trying to hide behind the collective word ÈpeopleÈ. You may be a legend in your own mind with the delusion you are part of a pack, but we are dealing with but one person and his hatred and that is you Buddy Boy.

Oh wait let me play. PEOPLE can read back your pathetically hateful and childish holocaust baiting comments in the other thread.

You Buddy Boy are nothing more than a hateful individual who uses Israel as your pretext to spew hatred. You speak for no people. You speak for no one but yourself.

Regards,

Big Mean Jew er I only mean Jew Zionist er I mean Bible Thumping Christian er oh never mind

President

Buddy Boy Fan Club

Edited July 14, 2012 by Rue

[Guest Peeves]

I will respond directly to your comments I placed in quotes:

"sorry little buddy. people are no longer afraid of speaking out against israel's despicable treatment of palestinians."

You Buddy Boy are nothing more than a hateful individual who uses Israel as your pretext to spew hatred. You speak for no people. You speak for no one but yourself.

Regards,

Big Mean Jew er I only mean Jew Zionist er I mean Bible Thumping Christian er oh never mind

President

Buddy Boy Fan Club

Above post truncated for brevity, but the essence lingers on.

I enjoyed that. However given the target, I expect as analogous the response will be..""Disproportionate Jewish response'! U. N. complaint filed.I demand sanctions.. "

Of course Jewish will have no cap.

[bud]

time is running out, zionbots:

allow this, self-hating jew, tell you what's happening:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As3RkEq67hs

[bud]

and here is a discussion with peter beinart and david suissa

[cybercoma]

I'm really tired of hearing how condemning the STATE of Israel for its actions is somehow a critique on Judaism. This has nothing to do with Jews and everything to do with Israel as a political body.

Edited July 16, 2012 by cybercoma

[bleeding heart]

I'm really tired of hearing how condemning the STATE of Israel for its actions is somehow a critique on Judaism. This has nothing to do with Jews and everything to do with Israel as a political body.

Oh, they know that. They're not interested in an honest discussion.

[bush_cheney2004]

Oh, they know that. They're not interested in an honest discussion.

Who's not being honest? The Palestinian cause has been most sabotaged by their own actions and failed leadership. Israel is not going away and has every right to defend itself from real "existential" threats, far more immediate than those addressed by Canada killing the locals in Serbia, Afghanistan or Libya.

[GostHacked]

I'm really tired of hearing how condemning the STATE of Israel for its actions is somehow a critique on Judaism. This has nothing to do with Jews and everything to do with Israel as a political body.

Some of our Pro-Israeli supporters here also combine the two for their side of the argument. I was called ignorant or something when I distinguish between Jews and Israel. You cannot seem to talk about just one of them. They are together, or nothing.

[DogOnPorch]

They are together, or nothing.

Odd that is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySvaWWYGbq0

[bleeding heart]

Who's not being honest? The Palestinian cause has been most sabotaged by their own actions and failed leadership. Israel is not going away and has every right to defend itself from real "existential" threats, far more immediate than those addressed by Canada killing the locals in Serbia, Afghanistan or Libya.

I'm not arguing a case agaisnt Israel. In fact, I'm inclined to think that Israel's harshest critics are in fact too harsh. (And it's most virulent defenders are too easy on the State.)

I'm saying that the so-called Defenders of Israel have taken more and more to the "anti-semite" baiting...and that further, I don't think for a second that they believe themselves on this point.

Edited July 16, 2012 by bleeding heart

[bush_cheney2004]

....I'm saying that the so-called Defenders of Israel have taken more and more to the "anti-semite" baiting...and that further, I don't think for a second that they believe themselves on this point.

OK...just keep that thought as we approach the 40th anniversary of the Munich Olympic Massacre. Jews? Jews? What Jews?

[bud]

Israel is not going away and has every right to defend itself from real "existential" threats,

yes. expanding illegal jewish settlements in the west bank and east jerusalem is all about israel defending itself from real existential threats. kind of like how the nazis had to defend itself from the jews by expanding itself around europe.

Edited July 16, 2012 by bud

[bush_cheney2004]

yes. expanding illegal jewish settlements in the west bank and east jerusalem is all about israel defending itself from real existential threats. kind of like how the nazis had to defend itself from the jews by expanding itself around europe.

Works for me....just as Canada has "managed" its own PalestIndians and land claims. Preaching to Israel from Vancouver Island is laughable!

[cybercoma]

Who's not being honest? The Palestinian cause has been most sabotaged by their own actions and failed leadership. Israel is not going away and has every right to defend itself from real "existential" threats, far more immediate than those addressed by Canada killing the locals in Serbia, Afghanistan or Libya.

Nobody denied that. What Israel doesn't have the right to do is violate people's human rights, especially when it's defending itself.

[bush_cheney2004]

Nobody denied that. What Israel doesn't have the right to do is violate people's human rights, especially when it's defending itself.

Yes Israel does....just as Canada or the United States does. Hell, so called "human rights" have become the latest excuse to kill even more people and write bad books (Ignatieff).

You can't make this stuff up!

[cybercoma]

You defend Human Rights abuses, actually encourage it, and you expect to be taken seriously?

[bush_cheney2004]

You defend Human Rights abuses, actually encourage it, and you expect to be taken seriously?

Get a clue....my opinion only reflects the actions of governments. Reality sucks that way, eh? How is that Canadian Khadr kid doing?