Suicide car bomber kills 12 in Nigeria church

[DogOnPorch]

Iran isn`t Arab.

But, they do hang homosexuals....right?

[DogOnPorch]

Boom...

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/10/nigeria-chuch-attack/

[GostHacked]

I'm reading a really good book right now - What We Knew: Terror, Mass Murder, and Everyday Life in Nazi Germany - An Oral History - and considering what went on, the denials, the knowledge but indifference, and even the failure of the Jews to rebel en masse at the time, I can understand why some take such a strong stance regarding their survival now; especially in light of the PC mindset so many have regarding Islam right now - which is really just the flip side of those who blame "Islam" rather than the extremist faction.

Meh, if you wanted to know about Nazi's then you'll love this little bit by Walt Disney!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D24OEVXmW0

Hard to believe that this is the same outfit that would bring us things like Bambi, and Sleeping Beauty.

[DogOnPorch]

Disney was anti-Nazi. As is that cartoon. It was made during WW2, of course.

[Michael Hardner]

But, they do hang homosexuals....right?

Yes they do. We had a racial angle going there but it seems we are back at the beginning.

[jbg]

Boom...

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/10/nigeria-chuch-attack/

Another attack. Deserves another thread. Look at the number of "Gaza" threads after Cast Lead.

[Guest Peeves]

Iran isn`t Arab.

Did I say it was? If so I apologise to my Persian friends. I know of course that Persians consider Arabs as inferior.

Still Persians seem to hang Homosexuals and children? Persian shutdown newspapers/magazines/internet/free speech, women's rights, other religious practices and in my opinion are on the way to making a 'Persian' Nuke device to back up their religious ideology.

[Guest Peeves]

Another attack. Deserves another thread. Look at the number of "Gaza" threads after Cast Lead.

Churches--Christians are fair game. Often law officials just stand by, or, so I've read.

'course, burn a Qur'an, name a bear Mohammad, draw a cartoon, write a book 'expose`, or try to change your religion for example, and you're the subject of a death threat, fatwa. It evens out...not.

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[Michael Hardner]

Did I say it was? If so I apologise to my Persian friends. I know of course that Persians consider Arabs as inferior.

This statement, starting with the following sentence and listing a lot of Arab countries made it seem so:

"Arabs killing Arabs all over the Muslim world in country after subjugated country. Iran hangs homosexuals"

Still Persians seem to hang Homosexuals and children? Persian shutdown newspapers/magazines/internet/free speech, women's rights, other religious practices and in my opinion are on the way to making a 'Persian' Nuke device to back up their religious ideology.

Are you intentionally trying to make it unclear what point you're trying to make ? If so, you're doing well.

[Guest Peeves]

This statement, starting with the following sentence and listing a lot of Arab countries made it seem so:

"Arabs killing Arabs all over the Muslim world in country after subjugated country. Iran hangs homosexuals"

The first sentence dealt generically with Arabs . Period, full stop.

The next sentence specifically applied. clearly with Iran. You seem to be the picayune pursuer of polity.

My point for historical record is that while 6,000 are killed recently by an Arab country despot barbarously in Syria,where too similarly disposed of by the thousands in other Arab spring uprisings and whilst others of the 'faith' (read political faith), kill each other over their Islamic sectarian beliefs. Where churches are burned, Christians killed etc. etc. ( brings to mind "The King and I" - Etc., Etc., Etc. ,Yul to Anna nuance),there are those that would single out ad nausea, Jews!!! even as does NATO and anti-Semites the world over. Is that a point made? I will of course continue whenever possible to make that point clear. Thank you for the opportunity to clear up any turbidity.

Are you intentionally trying to make it unclear what point you're trying to make ? If so, you're doing well.

[dre]

This statement, starting with the following sentence and listing a lot of Arab countries made it seem so:

"Arabs killing Arabs all over the Muslim world in country after subjugated country. Iran hangs homosexuals"

Are you intentionally trying to make it unclear what point you're trying to make ? If so, you're doing well.

Are you intentionally trying to make it unclear what point you're trying to make ? If so, you're doing well.

Hes just doing what he normally does... If you expect that guy to "make a point" then its you that needs help not him.

[bleeding heart]

and in my opinion are on the way to making a 'Persian' Nuke device to back up their religious ideology.

Then your opinion strays pretty far from what we know...including the fact that the US refused a regulated, inspected-at-will nuclear program.

Edited June 11, 2012 by bleeding heart

[Michael Hardner]

This statement, starting with the following sentence and listing a lot of Arab countries made it seem so:

"Arabs killing Arabs all over the Muslim world in country after subjugated country. Iran hangs homosexuals"

The first sentence dealt generically with Arabs . Period, full stop.

The next sentence specifically applied. clearly with Iran. You seem to be the picayune pursuer of polity.

Here's my counter example, given only as an analogy:

"Crazy psychopaths are everywhere ! Peeves posts things here. Psycho killers lop off heads and dispose of bodies. Cannibal killers abound !"

Paragraphs are meant to group sets of separate thoughts, perhaps you can try using those.

My point for historical record is that while 6,000 are killed recently by an Arab country despot barbarously in Syria,where too similarly disposed of by the thousands in other Arab spring uprisings and whilst others of the 'faith' (read political faith), kill each other over their Islamic sectarian beliefs.

Sentence structure is bad here, which makes it hard to get the point. Read it yourself and see.

Where churches are burned, Christians killed etc. etc. ( brings to mind "The King and I" - Etc., Etc., Etc. ,Yul to Anna nuance),there are those that would single out ad nausea, Jews!!! even as does NATO and anti-Semites the world over.

It's "ad nauseam". NATO is anti-Semitic ?

Is that a point made?

Not yet, no.

I will of course continue whenever possible to make that point clear. Thank you for the opportunity to clear up any turbidity.

You are most welcome.

[Guest American Woman]

Here's my counter example, given only as an analogy:

"Crazy psychopaths are everywhere ! Peeves posts things here. Psycho killers lop off heads and dispose of bodies. Cannibal killers abound !"

I'll point out the major difference between what he said and your example. He was lumping all of their behavior in the same category, but not the Arab category. He was listing countries that do terrible things; he was saying "Arabs do this. "Iran does that, ....." He was simply listing who does what. In other words, the response wasn't about Arabs. "Islamists and radical Muslims" aren't all Arabs, either.

[Michael Hardner]

I'll point out the major difference between what he said and your example. He was lumping all of their behavior in the same category, but not the Arab category.

Maybe so, but my perception should be understandable.

Again - the first part of his quote, followed by other Arab countries: "Arabs killing Arabs all over the Muslim world in country after subjugated country. Iran hangs homosexuals"

[Guest American Woman]

Maybe so, but my perception should be understandable.

I understand your perception, but I don't think his statement was comparable to the example you gave - which was my point.

Again - the first part of his quote, followed by other Arab countries: "Arabs killing Arabs all over the Muslim world in country after subjugated country. Iran hangs homosexuals"

I understand that, but his post was about atrocities, not about Arabs - and his list was about atrocities, not about Arabs. As I said, "Islamists and radical Muslims" aren't necessarily Arabs, either.

Sometimes things are taken the wrong way, especially with the written word, and you - understandably - perceived it incorrectly; but I thought Peeves' explanation clarified any misinterpretation and I didn't see your example - where your list wasn't about the same things - as comparable, and simply pointed out why.

[Michael Hardner]

I understand your perception, but I don't think his statement was comparable to the example you gave - which was my point.

I see. You're right, it's not analogous in that way, but illustrative at best.

[Guest Peeves]

I see. You're right, it's not analogous in that way, but illustrative at best.

Now Buddhists are catching the fever.

Buddhist residents in western Burma have killed at least nine Muslims as sectarian tension worsens in the region, police say.

Reports say a crowd attacked a bus in Rakhine province after blaming some of the passengers for the gang rape and murder of a Buddhist woman.

In another incident, at least 10 people were injured in the state capital Sittwe when police broke up a protest.

It is the worst violence to hit the province in recent months.

Sectarian and ethnic tension persists in the country despite a new, supposedly tolerant climate introduced by the civilian-led government which came into power 15 months ago.

The bus attack took place near the town of Taungup in Rakhine province, which borders Bangladesh, on Sunday evening, police and residents said.

It was thought to be carried out by mostly Buddhist ethnic Rakhine people.

"More than 100 people beat and killed those people," a resident told AFP news agency. "The residents even torched the bus."

The reason for the attack is unclear, but some residents say it was a revenge attack following the rape and murder of a Buddhist girl in another part of the province last month.

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But the Burmese Muslim Association said most of those killed were Muslims visiting a mosque from central Burma.

That account was corroborated by unnamed residents quoted by Reuters news agency, who said those killed were not from the area.

No arrests have been made. A police investigation is under way.

In another, apparently unrelated incident at least 10 people were injured after police fired rubber bullets at a mob who attacked their police station in Sittwe, reports said.

A 13-year-old protester was among those injured, witnesses said.

There were contradictory reports about what triggered the protest, but some accounts suggested anti-Muslim sentiment could have played a part.

Rakhine is home to Burma's largest concentration of Muslims, including much-persecuted Rohingya Muslims, and their presence is often deeply resented by the majority Buddhist population.

In a joint statement quoted by Reuters, eight Rohingya rights groups based outside Burma condemned the attack on the Muslims on the bus, whom they termed "Muslim pilgrims".

Although it appears those on the bus were not Rohingyas, the groups said the attack followed months of anti-Rohingya propaganda stirred up by "extremists and xenophobes".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18324614

http://www.onislam.net/english/news/asia-pacific/457537-bangladesh-denies-rohingya-muslims-entry.html

[Guest Peeves]

My point for historical record is that while 6,000 are killed recently by an Arab country despot barbarously in Syria,where too similarly disposed of by the thousands in other Arab spring uprisings and whilst others of the 'faith' (read political faith), kill each other over their Islamic sectarian beliefs.

Sentence structure is bad here, which makes it hard to get the point. Read it yourself and see.

I agree. I was rushing to make the Jewish Post deadline..."hold the back page."

So to rephrase redundantly, (As if I needed to.)

My point for the record,is that while 6,000 are murdered recently by Syrian barbarism, thousands of others are killed in other Arab uprisings, BUT, Jews are singled out far beyond any proportionate critique.

I suppose I should expect Jews to be singled out by the usual suspects. The same happens on the other forums I visit. One or two always (not anti-Semites of course), find a Jew to condemn.

Muslims meantime are engaged in slaughtering one another. That seems so common place I guess that I can only assume Muslims are apparently doing what is accepted as business as usual in their sphere of influence?

Edited June 12, 2012 by Peeves

[bud]

Speaking of b.s., "understanding" is synonymous with "crocodile tears?"

But yeah, I realize that past actions only can be taken into consideration when understanding why Palestinians carry out terrorist attacks.

yeah, anyway:

survival = increasing illegal government funded settlements

survival = not allowing a palestinian state to form

survival = keeping thousands of people in an open air prison

survival =

survival =

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY8dPGiOTGs

and on and on.

those actions are not called survival. those are the actions of an aggressive colonizer who has a PR campaign that include apologists, hypocrites, dissemblers and charlatans who at every opportunity try to paint israel in softer shades.

[DogOnPorch]

So how is that flottila to Syria coming? Oh that's right. No Jews in Syria.

[bleeding heart]

Exacerbating the terrorist problem? How, by existing?

Sure...we simply exist, minding our own business, occasionally flitting about the world trying to do good...in the face of implacable evil, weak allies, and a growing culture of social degeneracy within our own ranks.

And other "theories" plagiarized from epic poems and fairy tales.

[GostHacked]

Meanwhile in Liberated Iraq .......

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/22/iraq-bomb-baghdad-market_n_1618061.html

BAGHDAD — Two bombs exploded in an open-air market in Baghdad on Friday, killing at least 14 people in the latest round of spiraling violence six months after the last U.S. troops withdrew from Iraq.

I guess Iraq is ignored because the bombings are a weekly occurrence there. Also because I guess it's Muslim on Muslim violence from what it seems. Much more sensationalistic to cry about Christians getting killed in Nigeria.