Topaz Posted May 29, 2012 Report Posted May 29, 2012 The feds are going to be charging gun owners fees for their license. I'm not a gun owner but one fee with be $80. and another is $60 and they say they need the money to help pay off the deficit and since there's over 394,000 gun owners, they couldn't help themselves not too. http://www.torontosun.com/2012/05/28/gun-license-fees-reloaded Quote
fellowtraveller Posted May 29, 2012 Report Posted May 29, 2012 License? I don't have or need any stinking license. Quote The government should do something.
cybercoma Posted May 29, 2012 Report Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) I wonder what gun owners would have preferred: a) Paying higher licensing fees, but having no gun registry or Having a gun registry, but paying no licensing fees. Edited May 29, 2012 by cybercoma Quote
kimmy Posted May 29, 2012 Report Posted May 29, 2012 I wonder what gun owners would have preferred: a) Paying higher licensing fees, but having no gun registry or Having a gun registry, but paying no licensing fees. I assume that the demise of the registry will mean police will no longer kick down your door with their pistols drawn shouting "WHERE ARE THE GUNS? WHERE ARE THE GUNS?" when they arrive at your home for a routine noise complaint. So I am guessing option B. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
waldo Posted May 29, 2012 Report Posted May 29, 2012 whaaa! It's all about "the safety"! Just how will this play... down on the farm? Regulations Amending the Firearms Fees Regulations This amendment would extend the Firearms Fees Regulations, which, collectively with the previously approved extension of the Regulations Amending the Firearms Licences Regulations and the Order Amending the Order Declaring an Amnesty Period (2006), help to maintain and increase compliance with federal firearms legislation. Not extending this measure may deter some firearms owners from remaining or becoming compliant with federal firearms legislation and thereby undermine public safety. next thing you know, some wag will be demanding proof that the fees are... "saving lives"... and that the two successive Harper Conservative fee waivers... "cost lives" Quote
Guest Manny Posted May 29, 2012 Report Posted May 29, 2012 Assume that once a license is issued, your info is recorded into a database of some sort. Quote
Rick Posted May 29, 2012 Report Posted May 29, 2012 Assume that once a license is issued, your info is recorded into a database of some sort. You mean like....a registry? Quote “This is all about who you represent,” Mr. Dewar (NDP) said. “We’re (NDP) talking about representing the interests of working people and everyday Canadians and they [the Conservatives] are about representing the fund managers who come in and fleece our companies and our country. Voted Maple Leaf Web's 'Most Outstanding Poster' 2011
MiddleClassCentrist Posted May 29, 2012 Report Posted May 29, 2012 You mean like....a registry? LOL. The irony! Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
GostHacked Posted May 29, 2012 Report Posted May 29, 2012 Assume that once a license is issued, your info is recorded into a database of some sort. That already happens. Gun shops and provincial governments already track that kind of thing. Quote
Topaz Posted May 29, 2012 Author Report Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) Do you have to have a license for paint gun or bb yet, just think of the money grab there! Edited May 29, 2012 by Topaz Quote
fellowtraveller Posted May 29, 2012 Report Posted May 29, 2012 I wonder what gun owners would have preferred: a) Paying higher licensing fees, but having no gun registry or Having a gun registry, but paying no licensing fees. none of the above. c) not having a gun registry for long guns, and paying nothing for owning legal weapons. Quote The government should do something.
MiddleClassCentrist Posted May 29, 2012 Report Posted May 29, 2012 none of the above. c) not having a gun registry for long guns, and paying nothing for owning legal weapons. My driver's license should be free too! and fishing... and boating... Ahhh, to live in a libertarian paradise without any regulation. Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
MiddleClassCentrist Posted May 29, 2012 Report Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) I assume that the demise of the registry will mean police will no longer kick down your door with their pistols drawn shouting "WHERE ARE THE GUNS? WHERE ARE THE GUNS?" when they arrive at your home for a routine noise complaint. So I am guessing option B. -k Stop making excessive noise having an illegal party of large proportions then? (Sorry, I couldn't help myself from making the typical conservative response of "If you don't have anything to hide, you have nothing to fear") Edited May 29, 2012 by MiddleClassCentrist Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
fellowtraveller Posted May 29, 2012 Report Posted May 29, 2012 My driver's license should be free too! and fishing... and boating... Ahhh, to live in a libertarian paradise without any regulation. I'm just stating my preference. If you want to pay to register your legal guns, go ahead. I won't. Quote The government should do something.
MiddleClassCentrist Posted May 29, 2012 Report Posted May 29, 2012 I'm just stating my preference. If you want to pay to register your legal guns, go ahead. I won't. BTW, if they aren't licensed, they aren't legal Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
Rick Posted May 29, 2012 Report Posted May 29, 2012 I'm just stating my preference. If you want to pay to register your legal guns, go ahead. I won't. Oh yes you will. Harper's going to make you register them...and pay for it too now At least now we know the real reason Harper wanted to kill off the Liberal's gun registry...Harper wanted to implement a new way to tax you. Quote “This is all about who you represent,” Mr. Dewar (NDP) said. “We’re (NDP) talking about representing the interests of working people and everyday Canadians and they [the Conservatives] are about representing the fund managers who come in and fleece our companies and our country. Voted Maple Leaf Web's 'Most Outstanding Poster' 2011
fellowtraveller Posted May 29, 2012 Report Posted May 29, 2012 Oh yes you will. Harper's going to make you register them...and pay for it too now At least now we know the real reason Harper wanted to kill off the Liberal's gun registry...Harper wanted to implement a new way to tax you. You wish. Chretien and Martin failed to get me to register or pay, how is Harper going to swing it? You have no idea how many people defied the registration process. Why would that change now? Quote The government should do something.
Spiderfish Posted May 29, 2012 Report Posted May 29, 2012 BTW, if they aren't licensed, they aren't legal You don't have to license a gun... never have, so they are legal. However if YOU don't have a license, but possess a gun, you're possessing it illegally. Quote
GostHacked Posted May 29, 2012 Report Posted May 29, 2012 BTW, if they aren't licensed, they aren't legal The person has to be licensed, not the gun. Quote
dre Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 Its smart politics! The Conservatives figure they can take the support of gun owners for granted and count on their votes, so bending them over and ass raping them makes pretty good sense. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
waldo Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 Chretien and Martin failed to get me to register or pay, how is Harper going to swing it? You have no idea how many people defied the registration process. Why would that change now? but... but... according to Harper Conservatives, you'll be undermining public safety! Think of the kids, damnit! so, no registration for you... and... no licensing, either. Aren't you special. You'll buy a license to drive your pick-me-up, but you won't buy a license for your guns! Don't you know Harper Conservatives will seize your unlicensed guns. Harper's comin fer your guns! Quote
eyeball Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 You have no idea how many people defied the registration process. But don't you think the state should crack down and get tough with scofflaws? Why would that change now? Why indeed? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
TwoDucks Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 You wish. Chretien and Martin failed to get me to register or pay, how is Harper going to swing it? You have no idea how many people defied the registration process. Why would that change now? Mandatory minimums. Hur hur. Quote
dre Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 Mandatory minimums. Hur hur. Good point. THe conservatives will gladly build a prison cell JUST FOR YOU Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
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