The Avengers. . .

bleeding heart · October 19, 2012

I really enjoyed Avengers. I saw it in 3D at an IMAX theatre though. Took my elderly mother and she was blown away. It was an awesome experience.

It seems that almost everybody liked it very much.

I'll have to assume it's me (and my wife, god bless her) rather than the movie.

But then, I despise--really despise--Forrest Gump, and everybody seems to enjoy that one, too.

segnosaur · October 19, 2012

If you liked superhero movies in the past, but didn't think Thor or The Avengers were enjoyable, then what superhero movies did you like?

The first two Spiderman movies; Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Superman (seventies one).......

Well, it might be understandable to like the Nolan Batman movies and not like The Avengers because Nolan's Batman had a totally different "gritty" treatment of the character that might appeal to some people.

I would have to say that Spider-man was better than Thor/Captain America, but better than Avengers? Both Spiderman and Avengers were aimed at being fun/enjoyable.

As for Superman, I could never really get into those films. When I was younger, it seemed to lack action (and at that age I didn't care as much about storyline, acting, etc.) Now that I'm older, I'm disappointed for a whole other set of reasons (Mostly stemming from the fact that even though superman was near god-like in abilities, they had to resort to time travel to 'win'.) The only Superman movie I've liked enough to buy ws Superman 3.

segnosaur · October 19, 2012

It seems that almost everybody liked it very much.

I'll have to assume it's me (and my wife, god bless her) rather than the movie.

Well, the movie is sitting at >90% on Rotten tomatoes, so it seems like most critics also liked it.

Its not surprising that a person might dislike popular movies if they fit into a genre that a person doesn't like. (I doubt my parents would have liked Avengers, since its not "their thing".) I just thought it was strange that you disliked avengers but liked Spiderman, since they're in the same Genre, both going for pure entertainment, both highly rated, etc.

But then, I despise--really despise--Forrest Gump, and everybody seems to enjoy that one, too.

But without Forest Gump, you'd never get that famous line in Tropic Thunder:

"Don't you know you never go full retard."

bleeding heart · October 19, 2012

Well, it might be understandable to like the Nolan Batman movies and not like The Avengers because Nolan's Batman had a totally different "gritty" treatment of the character that might appeal to some people.

Yeah, I do like that.

I would have to say that Spider-man was better than Thor/Captain America, but better than Avengers? Both Spiderman and Avengers were aimed at being fun/enjoyable.

Sure, and I can't explain any good reason why Spiderman is better than the Avengers. there's nothing I can put my finger on. If anything, the Avengers seems my style. It just left me a little cold, for some reason.

For that reason, I haven't written off the movie. There have been movies I didn't like, and then appreciated more later, on second viewing.

The very fact that the Avengers has been so well-received, by almost everybody, it seems, tells me to give it another shot.

I'll wait a few months, and then check it out.

Boges · August 4, 2014

Instead of starting a new thread, I'll just bump this one.

Guardians of the Galaxy is arguably a better movie than the Avengers.

Avengers gets cred for having characters we all know; Captain America, Hulk, Iron Man etc. Also the characters all got their own movies to establish origin stories and character development.

Guardians had none of that with the exception of small Easter Eggs at the end of the Avengers and Thor: A Dark World.

These characters are unknown to most but they're endearing and hilarious. This movie is a Star Wars like Space Opera with a sense of humour.

Star Lord's Walkman with 70's music is the cherry on the top. Music a lot of us have heard and love is used as the sound track to this movie. It's a very effective tool.

I encourage everyone to go see this movie.

Wilber · August 4, 2014

Yup, Diana Rigg was hot.

Boges · August 5, 2014

Yup, Diana Rigg was hot.

Huh? You mean Lady Olena from GoT. Different thing.

Wilber · August 5, 2014

Huh? You mean Lady Olena from GoT. Different thing.

No, I mean Mrs. Peel.

kimmy · August 8, 2014

Guardians of the Galaxy is arguably a better movie than the Avengers.

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These characters are unknown to most but they're endearing and hilarious. This movie is a Star Wars like Space Opera with a sense of humour.

I'm really looking forward to seeing this movie, and the the number of times I see comparisons to Star Wars in reviews is a big reason why. "Sci-fi hasn't been this much fun since Star Wars."

I think it's interesting or maybe hilarious that of all the properties in the Marvel Universe to choose from, they picked this bunch of dorks. The Hulk and Iron Man and Thor and Captain America and so-on all have some amount of name recognition. But only comic-book geeks had heard of "The Guardians of the Galaxy" prior to the movie.

-k

TimG · August 8, 2014

I'm really looking forward to seeing this movie, and the the number of times I see comparisons to Star Wars in reviews is a big reason why. "Sci-fi hasn't been this much fun since Star Wars."

Try not to get your hopes too high because they might ruin it. It is a thoroughly enjoyable movie but I am not convinced it has the potential to become embedded in our culture the way star wars has.

Boges · August 8, 2014

Try not to get your hopes too high because they might ruin it. It is a thoroughly enjoyable movie but I am not convinced it has the potential to become embedded in our culture the way star wars has.

I am Groot.

kimmy · August 10, 2014

Try not to get your hopes too high because they might ruin it. It is a thoroughly enjoyable movie but I am not convinced it has the potential to become embedded in our culture the way star wars has.

I don't particularly care that it become embedded in our culture, I just want to spend a couple of hours in a universe where anything can happen. To me, what Star Wars had that a great deal of other science fiction doesn't have is a feeling of infinite possiblity and a feeling of "why the heck not?" With other science fiction movies, I often feel like they're set in a science-fiction setting but not actually telling a science fiction story... with a few minor changes it could just as easily be set in World War 2 or Victorian England.

I am Groot.

I am Groot

-k

Black Dog · October 24, 2014

Age of Ultron trailer guys!

On the one hand, it's more of the same stuff we've seen from every single other superhero movie to come out int he last 5 years. The seriosu tone, the huge CGI set piece battles etc etc. As someone on Grantland put it:

"I feel like I’ve been made to smoke a carton of superhero movies to cure me of the habit forever, except there’s a truck backing up with a hundred more cartons on it and I’m going to be cured of ever thinking this was a fun kind of movie not by mere aversion but by my death from superhero-movie cancer."

I feel the same way. I just watched Captain America: The Winter Soldier, which was a fun, Bourne-like little thriller for the first 2/3 of its run time before devolving into utter nonsense with ridiculous video game plot contrivances and CGI b.s. It was so predictable and so formulaic and I except A2: AoU to follow the same pattern.

On the other hand, though: HULKBUSTER ARMOUR!!1!1!

Edited October 24, 2014 by Black Dog

Bryan · October 24, 2014

I was a huge fan of the Ultron storylines in the Avengers comics in the late 70's.

It still confuses me that we are this far into the "Marvel Universe" movie franchise and there's still no Hank Pym. He and his wife were founding members of the Avengers, and he was the one who built Ultron, but we're getting a movie based on Ultron before the character is even introduced??? Especially considering we already have seen a lot of screen presence from characters that are/were far of far less importance to the Avengers than Pym was, I'm just not sure what the logic is, and how they're going to square that circle if/when he finally is introduced.

Black Dog · October 24, 2014

I was a huge fan of the Ultron storylines in the Avengers comics in the late 70's.

It still confuses me that we are this far into the "Marvel Universe" movie franchise and there's still no Hank Pym. He and his wife were founding members of the Avengers, and he was the one who built Ultron, but we're getting a movie based on Ultron before the character is even introduced??? Especially considering we already have seen a lot of screen presence from characters that are/were far of far less importance to the Avengers than Pym was, I'm just not sure what the logic is, and how they're going to square that circle if/when he finally is introduced.

Check it.

Bryan · October 24, 2014

Check it.

Wow. They sure are messing with the time line. Starting with Scott Lang as Ant-Man? Introducing Pym as already old, and just a mentor rather than the bona fide superhero that he was? Crazy.

Black Dog · October 24, 2014

Wow. They sure are messing with the time line. Starting with Scott Lang as Ant-Man? Introducing Pym as already old, and just a mentor rather than the bona fide superhero that he was? Crazy.

Well, I expect they are making Stark the Ultron creator in this thing, so they aren't sticking to the canon.

Bryan · October 24, 2014

Well, I expect they are making Stark the Ultron creator in this thing, so they aren't sticking to the canon.

A lot of what they have already credited to Stark in the movies was originally done by Pym.

Edited October 24, 2014 by Bryan

Black Dog · October 24, 2014

A lot of what they have already credited to Stark in the movies was originally done by Pym.

Sexy genius in cool battle armour is a bit of an easier sell than incredible shrinking man.

Bryan · October 24, 2014

Sexy genius in cool battle armour is a bit of an easier sell than incredible shrinking man.

True.

Besides that, it's not a bad idea to deviate from the source material in general. Whatever the movie/TV show, if it's 100% faithful to the book, there's no suspense, no mystery. It's one of the reasons I like it that The Walking Dead strays so far from the comics -- I already know how those stories play out, I never know what's going to happen on the TV show.

cybercoma · October 24, 2014

Wake me up when they combine Guardians of the Galaxy with the Avengers and have a showdown with Thanos.

Black Dog · October 24, 2014

Wake me up when they combine Guardians of the Galaxy with the Avengers and have a showdown with Thanos.

That's probably going to happen you know. There's five more Marvel Universe films planned between now and 2019.

cybercoma · October 25, 2014

Oh I know.

I'm looking forward to Venom & Carnage, as well as Lego Batman (not Marvel but DC, I know).

Boges · October 25, 2014

I'm led to believe having Stark responsible for Ultron lead to this popular Civil War thread that will happen in Captain America 3.

Boges · October 25, 2014

Want to know something kind of interesting from the trailer. The actors that a Quicksilver and the Scarlett Witch (first seen in Cap 3) are the same leads that play a couple in this year's Godzilla movie.