mentalfloss Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) Seems a bit of an unnecessary and possibly costly move. How much does Lifeline cost?The CSC's annual budget is $3 billion, and of that roughly two per cent is spent on programming for inmates. The estimated cost of the Lifeline program is $2 million per year. However, research by CSC staff reports that inmates involved in Lifeline were less likely to get into problems while in prison or end up in segregation. Additionally, figures show lifers released on parole are among the least likely to re-offend. Was Ottawa right to cut the Lifeline prison rehab program? Edited April 16, 2012 by mentalfloss Quote
Topaz Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 Ok, so if its all about money and it cost over $100,000 per person to tax payer, why not just get rid of all the jails and have a law that ANYONE that is found guilty, on ANYTHING, break and enter, smoking pot etc., goes to the chair, or is hung, gets a overdose. Is this down the road by the Tories? Quote
Battletoads Posted April 17, 2012 Report Posted April 17, 2012 "Tough on crime, but not very effective at preventing it" -CPC Quote "You can lead a Conservative to knowledge, but you can't make him think."
cybercoma Posted April 17, 2012 Report Posted April 17, 2012 Seems a bit of an unnecessary and possibly costly move. Was Ottawa right to cut the Lifeline prison rehab program? It depends what their purpose is. Since the Conservatives like to set fires in order to put them out later, they're going to increase crime and recidivism in order to give their buddies in the prison industry more of the taxpayers' money and scare Canadians into voting for "the only party that's tough on crime." Canadians just might be stupid enough not to realize that being "tough on crime" the Conservative way actually increases crime. Quote
Wild Bill Posted July 28, 2012 Report Posted July 28, 2012 Ok, so if its all about money and it cost over $100,000 per person to tax payer, why not just get rid of all the jails and have a law that ANYONE that is found guilty, on ANYTHING, break and enter, smoking pot etc., goes to the chair, or is hung, gets a overdose. Is this down the road by the Tories? Well, if you feel this strongly about the issue why don't you BLOW ALL THE TORIES UP? Is this down the road by Topaz? I have just used EXACTLY the same logic as you! You ascribe a ridiculous over-reaction to a problem by the Tories and then imply that is what they eventually will do. Jonathan Swift has nothing on you! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Shady Posted July 28, 2012 Report Posted July 28, 2012 These types of programs need to be results based, not intentions based. If they're not yielding results, reform the program, or end it. Good job by Ottawa! Quote
Argus Posted July 28, 2012 Report Posted July 28, 2012 It depends what their purpose is. Since the Conservatives like to set fires in order to put them out later, they're going to increase crime and recidivism in order to give their buddies in the prison industry more of the taxpayers' money and scare Canadians into voting for "the only party that's tough on crime." Canadians just might be stupid enough not to realize that being "tough on crime" the Conservative way actually increases crime. This is tinfoil hat thinking. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Shady Posted July 28, 2012 Report Posted July 28, 2012 This is tinfoil hat thinking. Definitely. But most of Cyber's posts are tinfoil oriented. Quote
Argus Posted July 28, 2012 Report Posted July 28, 2012 Ok, so if its all about money and it cost over $100,000 per person to tax payer, why not just get rid of all the jails and have a law that ANYONE that is found guilty, on ANYTHING, break and enter, smoking pot etc., goes to the chair, or is hung, gets a overdose. Is this down the road by the Tories? I wouldn't mind adopting other strategies, such as Singapore's caning for minor offenses. I'd rather cane someone than put them away in jail for a few months at great expense. I also think inmates need to work a lot more in order to help offset the costs of keeping them incarcerated. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
gunrutz Posted July 28, 2012 Report Posted July 28, 2012 It depends what their purpose is. Since the Conservatives like to set fires in order to put them out later, they're going to increase crime and recidivism in order to give their buddies in the prison industry more of the taxpayers' money and scare Canadians into voting for "the only party that's tough on crime." Canadians just might be stupid enough not to realize that being "tough on crime" the Conservative way actually increases crime. Then do left wingers like to spray water where fires don't exist and have no chance of starting? That probably doesn't make sense, but then look at what it is in reply to. Quote
login Posted July 28, 2012 Report Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) Ottawa shouldn't have to pay for programs, they should be providing employment and access to outside resources, and community based organizations to provide programs. They should be providing basic needs amd access to employment, training and other programs provided to Candians, engineering failure is just backward. But no they shouldn't pay for it, if prisoners want programming they should pay for it with the employment income, and work be it agricultural or resource extraction or manufacture, R&D or otherwise should be provided. Only the disabled and those in training should get loans. The systems need to be opened up more instead of a lockdown and the good seperated from the bad apples. Edited July 28, 2012 by login Quote
WWWTT Posted July 28, 2012 Report Posted July 28, 2012 These types of programs need to be results based, not intentions based. If they're not yielding results, reform the program, or end it. Good job by Ottawa! According to the link provided,this program is very effective. Looks like the conservatives errored here. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted July 28, 2012 Report Posted July 28, 2012 I wouldn't mind adopting other strategies, such as Singapore's caning for minor offenses. Actually I believe this is a very good idea! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
eyeball Posted July 28, 2012 Report Posted July 28, 2012 Was Ottawa right to cut the Lifeline prison rehab program? It was so typically Right it's not funny. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
cybercoma Posted July 28, 2012 Report Posted July 28, 2012 It was so typically Right it's not funny. Quote
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