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[sharkman]

When I was just a baby, my mama told me, "Son, always be a good boy and don't ever play with guns."(Johnny Cash)

Edited December 18, 2012 by sharkman

[Guest Derek L]

Awwwww yeah, my license finally arrived! That's right, bitches! I'm Glenn Beck's worst nightmare: An atheist with a gun!

Welll, I don't actually have a gun yet. I'm going to visit my local shop tomorrow to see if their on-again/off-again supply of SKS carbines is "on-again", and see if they have a Ruger 10/22 as well. I plan to order my Mosin-Nagant 91/30 after I return from my Christmas adventures, because the idea of stuff arriving by courier while I'm away creeps me out for some reason.

-k

Hey great news!!!! I wish you luck in finding a 10/22, but depending on where you're getting the SKS, Lever Arms has them on sale till firday for $150........Now if you're factoring in shipping, it might equal out to your local store, but if the local guys have insane prices might be worth considering:

http://www.leverarms.com/russian-simonov-sks-45.html

Must say, when ordering online though, I tend to be tracking that parcel all the way home………..Good luck with your fence post Nagant!!! I'm sure you'll have fun

[sharkman]

Hey Derek, just in case my life changes and I get a rifle(not sure what that means!) what would you recommend for a beginner. I'd take it to target ranges I guess. Would something one size up from a .22 be alright? Or would you suggest a handgun or maybe just bear spray for the likes of me?

No criminal history and should be easy to get a license to carry or whatever, right?(unlike Kimmy's sorted past)

Edited December 19, 2012 by sharkman

[The_Squid]

Is it OK if I bring up dead children in the gun-orgy thread....? just wonderin...

[Guest Derek L]

Hey Derek, just in case my life changes and I get a rifle(not sure what that means!) what would you recommend for a beginner. I'd take it to target ranges I guess. Would something one size up from a .22 be alright? Or would you suggest a handgun or maybe just bear spray for the likes of me?

No criminal history and should be easy to get a license to carry or whatever, right?(unlike Kimmy's sorted past)

Get a Ruger 10/22, or another manufactures clone………Or purchase an older .22lr bolt, lever or pump action rifle…………..My reasoning, if you’re a novice, the guns will be unregistered/non-restricted, plus ammo and the guns themselves are cheap………If after you don’t like the shooting sports, with your licence fees, safety course and initial gun, you’ve only likely invested ~$500-600 all in.

[Shakeyhands]

Is it OK if I bring up dead children in the gun-orgy thread....? just wonderin...

Sure if you want to be a jerk?

[kimmy]

Hey Derek, just in case my life changes and I get a rifle(not sure what that means!) what would you recommend for a beginner. I'd take it to target ranges I guess. Would something one size up from a .22 be alright? Or would you suggest a handgun or maybe just bear spray for the likes of me?

If you're thinking of something "one size up from a .22", get a .22.

From what I gather, other small-bore rifle calibres are pretty specialized: they're designed for high-speed and flat trajectory-- shooting small game and predators (ie, bunnies, coyotes) at long range. The cartridges are far more expensive than .22.

You can get .22LR ammo for 5 cents a shot, or less if you buy in quantity. Other small bore rifle cartridges cost way more-- 30 cents a shot for .17 Hornady, 40-50 cents for .223, to maybe a buck a pop for .22-250, .22 Hornet, .204, .243, .250-06. So unless you have a special reason to get one of these other small-bore rifles, a .22 makes a lot more sense.

Another thing you could consider: a rifle chambered in .357 magnum. Guns chambered in .357 magnum can also shoot .38 Special, which is pretty cheap (around 25 cents a shot). A lever action "cowboy rifle" in .357 magnum is on my shopping list.

No criminal history and should be easy to get a license to carry or whatever, right?(unlike Kimmy's sorted past)

Jeez, wipe out a few old-people and you never live it down.

-k

[kimmy]

Must say, when ordering online though, I tend to be tracking that parcel all the way home………..Good luck with your fence post Nagant!!! I'm sure you'll have fun

My $150 SKS is on the way! Should be here Friday. I won't have a chance to do much more than lock it in my cabinet before I head off on my Christmas vacation, though.

-k

[Guest Derek L]

If you're thinking of something "one size up from a .22", get a .22.

From what I gather, other small-bore rifle calibres are pretty specialized: they're designed for high-speed and flat trajectory-- shooting small game and predators (ie, bunnies, coyotes) at long range. The cartridges are far more expensive than .22.

You can get .22LR ammo for 5 cents a shot, or less if you buy in quantity. Other small bore rifle cartridges cost way more-- 30 cents a shot for .17 Hornady, 40-50 cents for .223, to maybe a buck a pop for .22-250, .22 Hornet, .204, .243, .250-06. So unless you have a special reason to get one of these other small-bore rifles, a .22 makes a lot more sense.

Another thing you could consider: a rifle chambered in .357 magnum. Guns chambered in .357 magnum can also shoot .38 Special, which is pretty cheap (around 25 cents a shot). A lever action "cowboy rifle" in .357 magnum is on my shopping list.

Jeez, wipe out a few old-people and you never live it down.

-k

I have taught you well, Grasshopper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCyJRXvPNRo

Edited December 20, 2012 by Derek L

[Guest Derek L]

My $150 SKS is on the way! Should be here Friday. I won't have a chance to do much more than lock it in my cabinet before I head off on my Christmas vacation, though.

-k

Well that’s alright, if you got it from Lever Arms, it will probably be covered in Cosmoline……..It won’t go bad

[The_Squid]

Sure if you want to be a jerk?

EXACTLY!

[sharkman]

Get a Ruger 10/22, or another manufactures clone………Or purchase an older .22lr bolt, lever or pump action rifle…………..My reasoning, if you’re a novice, the guns will be unregistered/non-restricted, plus ammo and the guns themselves are cheap………If after you don’t like the shooting sports, with your licence fees, safety course and initial gun, you’ve only likely invested ~$500-600 all in.

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll be looking them up.

[sharkman]

If you're thinking of something "one size up from a .22", get a .22.

From what I gather, other small-bore rifle calibres are pretty specialized: they're designed for high-speed and flat trajectory-- shooting small game and predators (ie, bunnies, coyotes) at long range. The cartridges are far more expensive than .22.

You can get .22LR ammo for 5 cents a shot, or less if you buy in quantity. Other small bore rifle cartridges cost way more-- 30 cents a shot for .17 Hornady, 40-50 cents for .223, to maybe a buck a pop for .22-250, .22 Hornet, .204, .243, .250-06. So unless you have a special reason to get one of these other small-bore rifles, a .22 makes a lot more sense.

Another thing you could consider: a rifle chambered in .357 magnum. Guns chambered in .357 magnum can also shoot .38 Special, which is pretty cheap (around 25 cents a shot). A lever action "cowboy rifle" in .357 magnum is on my shopping list.

Jeez, wipe out a few old-people and you never live it down.

-k

Wow, thanks for that too!

[Black Dog]

Is it OK if I bring up dead children in the gun-orgy thread....? just wonderin...

It's the small penis thread. Note the thread title and get it straight.

[kimmy]

My SKS has arrived! It's a 1952 Tula. It's in surprisingly nice condition. There are a couple of dents and chips in the finish of the stock, but they're very minor and I don't think I'm going to bother refinishing the wood. It has a beautiful reddish tone that I want to keep.

I'm surprised how light it is and how nicely it shoulders. It's as if it were made for Kim-sized soldiers. Perhaps the average Soviet soldier wasn't very tall, or perhaps they favored a shorter length of pull. Regardless, it feels very natural.

It came with:

-1 two-compartment flask for oil and whatever goes in the other half.

-2 ammo pouches

-3 stripper clips

-4 calling birds

-a canvas sling

-the cleaning tool kit that goes in the secret compartment

-pouch for the oil flask

All of it is very nice. I was a bit surprised that the bayonette is dull. I'm not sure if that was original, or if it was dulled during the refurbishment process. I'm actually kind of glad it's dull, because I'd have cut myself a bunch of times already if it were sharp.

Next up I am going to attempt to disassemble it and clean and oil all the metal parts. Very pleased with it so far!

-k

[Guest Manny]

My SKS has arrived! It's a 1952 Tula. It's in surprisingly nice condition. There are a couple of dents and chips in the finish of the stock, but they're very minor and I don't think I'm going to bother refinishing the wood. It has a beautiful reddish tone that I want to keep.

I'm surprised how light it is and how nicely it shoulders. It's as if it were made for Kim-sized soldiers. Perhaps the average Soviet soldier wasn't very tall, or perhaps they favored a shorter length of pull. Regardless, it feels very natural.

It came with:

-1 two-compartment flask for oil and whatever goes in the other half.

-2 ammo pouches

-3 stripper clips

-4 calling birds

-a canvas sling

-the cleaning tool kit that goes in the secret compartment

-pouch for the oil flask

All of it is very nice. I was a bit surprised that the bayonette is dull. I'm not sure if that was original, or if it was dulled during the refurbishment process. I'm actually kind of glad it's dull, because I'd have cut myself a bunch of times already if it were sharp.

Next up I am going to attempt to disassemble it and clean and oil all the metal parts. Very pleased with it so far!

-k

Nice! Good to see someone who can choose to buy her guns, without being pussy-whiped

[Guest Derek L]

My SKS has arrived! It's a 1952 Tula. It's in surprisingly nice condition. There are a couple of dents and chips in the finish of the stock, but they're very minor and I don't think I'm going to bother refinishing the wood. It has a beautiful reddish tone that I want to keep.

Right on, when I bought my crate from Lever, I got a nice blend of 51,52 and 53 Tulas’……..The crack is more then likely a sign that it was an actual issued service rifle, that was later arsenal refurbished……I wouldn’t change the stock either…..It’s the individual gun’s history………It’s kinda neat to think that your SKS, was likely issued to (perhaps several) conscript soldier in a Soviet Guards Motor Rifle Division….Just think, some guy that would be in his 60s or 70s today, was training with that rifle when your parents were still in diapers (or perhaps not even born)!!!!!

I'm surprised how light it is and how nicely it shoulders. It's as if it were made for Kim-sized soldiers. Perhaps the average Soviet soldier wasn't very tall, or perhaps they favored a shorter length of pull. Regardless, it feels very natural.

If you're ever given a chance to peak inside a Soviet tank from that era you'll more than understand..........

Also, it’s a carbine……..Made to be small, used in likely a built-up area, well being designed for an army that had fought (and won) Stalingrad very recently.

All of it is very nice. I was a bit surprised that the bayonette is dull. I'm not sure if that was original, or if it was dulled during the refurbishment process. I'm actually kind of glad it's dull, because I'd have cut myself a bunch of times already if it were sharp.

That’s how it’s suppose to be, for the very reason you mentioned……..Remember, it’s intended purpose was to impale not cut, and then be pulled back out easily…………..IMHO, the SKS and Lee Enfield no 4 have the best designed and functioning bayonets ever made……….

Now an AK-47 bayonet, coupled with it’s scabbard, were intended to lock together to form a very rudimentary pare of wire cutters……….Wait till you get your Nagant, most of their original bayonets resemble a needle……..

Next up I am going to attempt to disassemble it and clean and oil all the metal parts. Very pleased with it so far!

-k

Have fun with that Comrade Kimmy

[Guest Derek L]

Nice! Good to see someone who can choose to buy her guns, without being pussy-whiped

Call it whatever you want (I‘ll take a stab and suggest you‘/re either not married or haven‘t been for very long)……..My wife was given a South African produced FN FAL on her 12th birthday to keep in her bedroom closet………And got a Street Sweeper in .410 to take to University with her…….

Some call it “pussy whipped”, I call it prudent……….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_XXD9b8XjQ

[Guest Manny]

Some call it “pussy whipped”, I call it prudent……….

Been married to the same woman for 26 years, but hey, whatever helps you get over it.

J/k with you of course Derek L! But I'm not worried.

Edited December 30, 2012 by Manny

[Guest Derek L]

Ben married to the same woman for 26 years, but hey, whatever helps you get over it!

Hey, I’m perfectly secure in my masculinity and quite happy with my Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip type arrangement………She can bring home the bacon to the tune of 150-200K more then I make a year, well I “work form home” and yell at clouds all day over the internet……..works for me.

[Guest Manny]

Haha, so what!

I do like some Queen tunes, even though he is gay!

Like "Sheer Heart Attack"

But anyways do carry on... surrogate Mom says you're allowed to play with your gun again...

[Guest Derek L]

Haha, so what!

I do like some Queen tunes, even though he is gay!

Like "Sheer Heart Attack"

But anyways do carry on... surrogate Mom says you're allowed to play with your gun again...

I like Queen......My wife loves them too...I think neither of us cared that he was gay though...one of the few Western Bands that played in South Africa in the 80s

The same goes with Sir Elton John........He didn`t mind the Boer`s Rand.....

[kimmy]

Right on, when I bought my crate from Lever, I got a nice blend of 51,52 and 53 Tulas’……..The crack is more then likely a sign that it was an actual issued service rifle, that was later arsenal refurbished……I wouldn’t change the stock either…..It’s the individual gun’s history………It’s kinda neat to think that your SKS, was likely issued to (perhaps several) conscript soldier in a Soviet Guards Motor Rifle Division….Just think, some guy that would be in his 60s or 70s today, was training with that rifle when your parents were still in diapers (or perhaps not even born)!!!!!

Yes, the idea that these guns have a history really appeals to me. A little piece of the Cold War is locked in my cabinet.

That’s how it’s suppose to be, for the very reason you mentioned……..Remember, it’s intended purpose was to impale not cut, and then be pulled back out easily…………..IMHO, the SKS and Lee Enfield no 4 have the best designed and functioning bayonets ever made……….

The bayonet is sure stylish, but from a practical point of view, I think that if I were ever to use this gun for actual hunting, I would remove the bayonet (which looks rather military for hunting) and the factory sling and the cleaning rod (which both jingle like Santa's sleigh.) I suspect that some enterprising individual has probably invented a bipod that fits on the SKS bayonet mount, which would probably be much handier than a bayonet.

Have fun with that Comrade Kimmy

It went pretty well! I ended up wearing some oil when I opened up the flask. I had a few blonde moments while trying to get the bolt assembly back in the receiver, but I got it sorted out. Everything seems to be in order. No pitting or corrosion anywhere. The floating pin floats. Everything works. It seems mechanically very simple. I suspect the SKS reputation for reliability comes from there being not very much that could go wrong with them.

I was surprised how stiff the spring in the blowback piston is. With that strong spring, combined with the strong spring behind the bolt assembly, it seems like a lot for the blowback piston to push.

-k

[Guest Derek L]

Yes, the idea that these guns have a history really appeals to me. A little piece of the Cold War is locked in my cabinet.

It’s the same for me…….even when buying an old commercial firearm……..I’ve spoken of my Browning Auto-5, aside from the attributes of the gun that are really appealing, through looking up the serial number, I deduced that it was made in either 1950 or 1951.…….It’s kinda neat that it was built to such a high standard, in a relatively short period after the Second World War, shipped to North America and was likely purchased by a second world war vet, whom probably spent a fortune on it and I can imagine the trouble he got into for spending that type of money on a gun from his wife.

The bayonet is sure stylish, but from a practical point of view, I think that if I were ever to use this gun for actual hunting, I would remove the bayonet (which looks rather military for hunting) and the factory sling and the cleaning rod (which both jingle like Santa's sleigh.) I suspect that some enterprising individual has probably invented a bipod that fits on the SKS bayonet mount, which would probably be much handier than a bayonet.

That probably wouldn't be a bad idea........With that said, deer aren't that prone to that level of noise........I use my Remington 760 pump rifle namely for hunting and the thing sounds like a baby rattle........At most, Bambi might just look up for one last time.

It went pretty well! I ended up wearing some oil when I opened up the flask. I had a few blonde moments while trying to get the bolt assembly back in the receiver, but I got it sorted out. Everything seems to be in order. No pitting or corrosion anywhere. The floating pin floats. Everything works. It seems mechanically very simple. I suspect the SKS reputation for reliability comes from there being not very much that could go wrong with them.

I was surprised how stiff the spring in the blowback piston is. With that strong spring, combined with the strong spring behind the bolt assembly, it seems like a lot for the blowback piston to push.

-k

Like I was saying when I first brought up the SKS to you, they are well built and designed, and like mentioned by others, if the thing had of had a detachable magazine, it’s very likely we’d never have seen the AK-47 two years later.

And truth be told, when I got my first Auto-5, well stripping it, after taking off the mag cap, I got beamed in the noggin from the mag spring well holding the gun with one hand on the fore grip….then well holding on to the grip, the receiver detached from the barrel, dropped on my foot and shot the recoil spring (like a shock on a mini bike) across the room and scratched the tv screen………..Suffice to say, I invented several new swear words on the spot.

The gun that gave me the most trouble years ago was a Remington 742 I’d bought used, sans instructions and long before Youtube, so much so, that after taking it apart and trying to put it back together, I couldn’t get it to work and had to go to a local gunsmith with all the parts in a bag……….

[kimmy]

The last thing I need to do is to adjust the front sight. I think I need one of these:

http://www.sksstocks...-p/ncs-tak-.htm

And maybe one of these:

http://www.sksstocks...uk-sm39002-.htm

or these:

http://www.sksstocks.../lll-mbs-1-.htm

Do you know of any Canadian shops that carry these accessories? I assume that Canada Customs will go ballistic if I try to order firearms accessories from abroad.

I have seen the barrel-end bore sighting kit on Wholesale Sports, but not the other stuff. Also, do you have any thoughts on the question of cartridge-style bore sighting lasers vs barrel-end bore-sighting lasers?

-k