Tories reducing border

[Topaz]

I don't understand why they would do this but about 1100-1200 agents are losing their jobs at the border, so whose going to look after this, the US?? So I guess we better get ready for more drugs and guns getting into Canada and very long lines, which the truckers won't like. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/border-security-threatened-job-cuts-critics-091152814.html

[Smallc]

I don't understand why they would do this but about 1100-1200 agents are losing their jobs at the border,

No they aren't.

[cybercoma]

It's going to be roughly 400 front-line agents. However, by the time people are let go and they bump other positions based on seniority and whatnot, it's tough to say what the impact will be.

[Smallc]

It's going to be roughly 400 front-line agents. However, by the time people are let go and they bump other positions based on seniority and whatnot, it's tough to say what the impact will be.

Much of that reduction will be achieved by closing small, underused crossings, I think. Others will come from the reduction in redundant positions.

[cybercoma]

I'll tell you something though. This isn't the news Windsor, ON needs after the last 10 years of de-industrialization. Now those with border services jobs there are in trouble.

[Smallc]

I'll tell you something though. This isn't the news Windsor, ON needs after the last 10 years of de-industrialization. Now those with border services jobs there are in trouble.

I wouldn't expect most of the losses to come from Windsor..and things are finally picking up there again. The population is actually growing now.

[Tilter]

Much of that reduction will be achieved by closing small, underused crossings, I think. Others will come from the reduction in redundant positions.

Good, then we won't have to stop at the border in those crossings in the rural Prairie provinces. This will make crossing to & from the US as it was pre 1960, saving us time & waiting frustrations. I wonder if this will affect the crossing on the MonAlta highway?

We used to go hunting in that area but never knew whether we were hunting Canadian or American Pronghorns, and I guess the antelope never cared either

Edited April 12, 2012 by Tilter

[Smallc]

Good, then we won't have to stop at the border in those crossings in the rural Prairie provinces. This will make crossing to & from the US as it was pre 1960, saving us time & waiting frustrations. I wonder if this will affect the crossing on the MonAlta highway?

There won't be any roads left to drive across.

[fellowtraveller]

There won't be any roads left to drive across.

It's the Prairies son, we don't need any stinking roads.

This isn't the news Windsor, ON needs after the last 10 years of de-industrialization. Now those with border services jobs there are in trouble.

The number of civil service jobs should be based on the need for the service, not the persons need for a job.

[Tilter]

There won't be any roads left to drive across.

Out there you don"t need roads. Didn't have many then I don't expect any FWD would have a lot of trouble crossing & recrossing the border now.

By the way Topaz--- the border will not be reduced even by a Kilometre--- It'll stay the same till the 2 countries unite.

Edited April 12, 2012 by Tilter

[Boges]

Out there you don"t need roads. Didn't have many then I don't expect any FWD would have a lot of trouble crossing & recrossing the border now.

By the way Topaz--- the border will not be reduced even by a Kilometre--- It'll stay the same till the 2 countries unite.

Cool maybe it'll be easier to smuggle in duty-free alcohol and tobacco.

Edited April 12, 2012 by Boges

[Tilter]

Cool maybe it'll be easier to smuggle in duty-free alcohol and tobacco.

Take a look at the Alberta Montana border east of Medicine Hat. There is NOTHING there except the Monalta Highway (& a lot of Antelope)

I understand that now the Amis patrol thier borders with UAVs (unarmed I hope )

[Topaz]

No they aren't.

Really, you tell that to the people who got slips. BTW, Harper has a greement with the US that the US will be going most of the monitoring, which sounds it leading to the NAU, maybe the border will disappear. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/04/11/mb-cbsa-border-budget-cuts.html

[Smallc]

Really, you tell that to the people who got slips

Those aren't for the most part, front line officers.

[jbg]

I don't understand why they would do this but about 1100-1200 agents are losing their jobs at the border, so whose going to look after this, the US?? So I guess we better get ready for more drugs and guns getting into Canada and very long lines, which the truckers won't like. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/border-security-threatened-job-cuts-critics-091152814.html

I'd be in favor of a seamless, high-speed border. U.S. and Canada should reserve the right to police each others' airports and seaports, and the Mexican land crossings, in order to make this work.

[Guest Manny]

Reduce services, reduce services. Increase costs, increase bureaucracy.

[-TSS-]

Is the border against Alaska as strictly supervised as the the border against rest of the USA? Probably not. Not much of a chance of illegal immigrants trying to enter Canada from Alaska?

[jbg]

Is the border against Alaska as strictly supervised as the the border against rest of the USA? Probably not. Not much of a chance of illegal immigrants trying to enter Canada from Alaska?

Lots of mammals move around in the Porcupine River area of the Yukon, to and from Alaska (link). Edited April 12, 2012 by jbg

[punked]

Is the border against Alaska as strictly supervised as the the border against rest of the USA? Probably not. Not much of a chance of illegal immigrants trying to enter Canada from Alaska?

Pretty sure most Illegals in Canada are Americans so.....

[Guest Manny]

I'd be in favor of a seamless, high-speed border. U.S. and Canada should reserve the right to police each others' airports and seaports, and the Mexican land crossings, in order to make this work.

Screw your ideas. Not you personally though, just your ideas.

[jbg]

Screw your ideas. Not you personally though, just your ideas.

Well why not give an intelligent critique of them? Using profanities is easy.

[bush_cheney2004]

Twice the number of Canadians cross the border than the number of Americans crossing into Canada. And the US has ten times the population. Must be the cheaper gas and cigarettes.

39,254,000 — Trips by Canadians to the U.S. in 2009

20,213,500 — Trips by Americans to Canada in 2010

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/12/07/f-canada-us-border-by-the-numbers.html

[cybercoma]

Is the border against Alaska as strictly supervised as the the border against rest of the USA? Probably not. Not much of a chance of illegal immigrants trying to enter Canada from Alaska?

There are key crossing at various places in the country with strict security, but it's literally impossible to police the entire border. Including the Alaskan border it is 8891kms long.

[Guest Manny]

Twice the number of Canadians cross the border than the number of Americans crossing into Canada. And the US has ten times the population. Must be the cheaper gas and cigarettes.

39,254,000 — Trips by Canadians to the U.S. in 2009

20,213,500 — Trips by Americans to Canada in 2010

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/12/07/f-canada-us-border-by-the-numbers.html

I think the president told them to stay in America, not to travel to other lands. Must be that it's too scary in Canada.

"And one of the great goals of this Nation's war is to restore public confidence in the airline industry. It's to tell the traveling public: Get on board; do your business around the country; fly and enjoy America's great destination spots; get down to Disney World in Florida; take your families and enjoy life the way we want it to be enjoyed."

[Guest Derek L]

Cool maybe it'll be easier to smuggle in duty-free alcohol and tobacco.

And GUNS!!!