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You are slightly mixed up here (not uncommon) 1483 relates to Iraq Kuwait. That is a differnet war than the American invasion of Iraq.

Not at all mixed up...remember...you didn't even know that Canada (your own nation) bombed Iraq with CF-188's in 1991.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1483

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First Gulf War 'ended '91 Canada there. (Had to do with teh invasiaon of Kuwait, it's just a little south) Next war on Iraq, declared illegal, Canada not there. It's quite simple.

Nice dodge...wrong about the Gulf War...wrong about UN resolution 1483 in 2003. Canada was there. VP Cheney thanks Canadian Forces for their service.

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I was there in '03. We got ordered out at the onset of an illegal war.

I don't believe your tall tales...sorry.

On 31 March 2003, it was reported in Maclean's that in the previous month Canadian officers, aboard three frigates and a destroyer, had been placed in command of the multinational naval group Task Force 151, which patrolled the Persian Gulf region. A further 30 Canadians worked at the US Central Command in Qatar, and 150 troops were on exchange with US and British forces in proximity to combat.[4]North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) stationed Canadian Air Force pilots also flew combat missions with the US Air Force E-3 Sentry, and exchange officers fought with US units. Canadian pilots also flew Boeing C-17s into Iraq to "season" the flight crews.[8] In all, 40 to 50 Canadian military members participated in the conflict.

Because of this Canadian involvement in Iraq, the Ministers of the Crown at the time were criticised by Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition as hypocritical, and demands were made for the return of these Canadian Forces personnel. The Prime Minister stated that the Canadian military was not involved in direct combat, while still fulfilling its commitment to NORAD. However, it was claimed by Janice Gross Stein and Eugene Lang in The Unexpected War that people from Canadian ministries were in Washington, D.C., openly vaunting Canada's participation in Iraq;[2] as Stein and Lang put it: "in an almost schizophrenic way, the government bragged publicly about its decision to stand aside from the war in Iraq because it violated core principles of multilateralism and support for the United Nations. At the same time, senior Canadian officials, military officers and politicians were currying favour in Washington, privately telling anyone in the State Department of the Pentagon who would listen that, by some measures, Canada's indirect contribution to the American war effort in Iraq– three ships and 100 exchange officers– exceeded that of all but three other countries that were formally part of the coalition."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_and_the_Iraq_War#Military_participation

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You seem to talk about Gulf War as if there was only one. Two different occasions, two different responses from Canada and two different from the US. Canada helped in the first for the purpose of kicking Sudam out of Kuwait. Old man Bush had the good sense to, once that was achieved, to call off the dogs. The UN resolution had been achieved. To cross the border would have been outside that resolution and therefore ilegal to the UN and the ICC. Apparently the young fella Bush wasn't so smart in the next war. There were two you understand?

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You seem to talk about Gulf War as if there was only one. Two different occasions, two different responses from Canada and two different from the US. Canada helped in the first for the purpose of kicking Sudam out of Kuwait.

You can't get away from your own nation's history...in both wars. Canadian Forces supported the invasion of Iraq directly and indirectly, and nothing you say can change that. Chretien's fence sitting was for a gullible audience back home.

Then Canada begged Bush for access to bidding on Iraq's oil services contracts and other rebuilding projects.

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You can't get away from your own nation's history...in both wars. Canadian Forces supported the invasion of Iraq directly and indirectly, and nothing you say can change that. Chretien's fence sitting was for a gullible audience back home.

Chretien went to Bush and said "NO" If you call that fence sitting, you obviously don't understand the language.

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Chretien went to Bush and said "NO" If you call that fence sitting, you obviously don't understand the language.

Canadian Forces served in the conflict....you don't understand that and indirectly dishonor them. Did I mention the U.S. refueling and overflight rights in Canada to supply war materials ? You're into aviation, right ?

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I don't believe your tall tales...sorry.

On 31 March 2003, it was reported in Maclean's that in the previous month Canadian officers, aboard three frigates and a destroyer, had been placed in command of the multinational naval group Task Force 151, which patrolled the Persian Gulf region. A further 30 Canadians worked at the US Central Command in Qatar, and 150 troops were on exchange with US and British forces in proximity to combat.[4]North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) stationed Canadian Air Force pilots also flew combat missions with the US Air Force E-3 Sentry, and exchange officers fought with US units. Canadian pilots also flew Boeing C-17s into Iraq to "season" the flight crews.[8] In all, 40 to 50 Canadian military members participated in the conflict.

You are misrepresenting the facts here. You are implying troop involvement=government support, and that is not the case.

I don't think that there is any major conflict anywhere in the world where Canadians or Americans are not involved in! And on BOTH sides of any conflict!

There were Canadian soldiers in Vietnam.

There were US soldiers/pilots in both WWI and WWII among the Canadian ranks well before official US declarations of war!

It's well documented there was Canadians/Americans in both sides of the Afghan conflict.

In fact, the 3rd largest (arguably the 2nd) conflict Canada has been involved in (but before the BNA act) was the US civil war!

WWWTT

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You are misrepresenting the facts here. You are implying troop involvement=government support, and that is not the case.

No, I am representing exactly what has been reported from Canadian sources during and after the invasion. Canada was there for several reasons, regardless of the snow job for the voters back home. VP Cheney knew this, and permitted Canada to get in on fat juicy contracts at PM Martin's request.

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No, I am representing exactly what has been reported from Canadian sources during and after the invasion. Canada was there for several reasons, regardless of the snow job for the voters back home. VP Cheney knew this, and permitted Canada to get in on fat juicy contracts at PM Martin's request.

Like I said before, you could very well be right!

But it was the Bush/Cheney cult that wanted to do this in the first place and made it happen.

I seriously doubt you can provide a link that shows it was someone else that planed it?

WWWTT

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Yes, they did make it happen, as did PMs Blair and Howard. Ding dong...Saddam is dead.

Ding dong, so is another 1 million Iraqi's and counting!

That's why the Bush Cheney dynamic duo aren't on a world tour!

Like I mentioned to Shady in another thread, when a leader is more important than the people of a country, your a fascist.

When the people are more important than the leader, you have socialism.

That's why Mao and Chavez have millions of fans to this day!

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Ding dong, so is another 1 million Iraqi's and counting!

That's why the Bush Cheney dynamic duo aren't on a world tour!

Nonsense.....maybe you are including the Iraqi's killed by Saddam ? Bush and Cheney can go to Canada whenever they please, and the ICC protesters can cry their eyes out.

Like I mentioned to Shady in another thread, when a leader is more important than the people of a country, your a fascist.

When the people are more important than the leader, you have socialism.

That's why Mao and Chavez have millions of fans to this day!

Then why do you live in Canada ?

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