Guest Peeves Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Why not go all the way and become a Christian? What sect of Christianity do you endorse? Southern Baptists don't think Catholics are Christian, and Mormons ? Quote
cybercoma Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 Maybe the Muslims who move here should decide to Westernize? My ancestors and most of our ancestors did. Good thing you put that qualifier most in there. Since this is a thread about headscarves, do you believe Jewish women that wear headscarves in the West should stop too? How about men that wear those "funny" looking hats or yamulkas? Should they stop wearing those and perhaps growing their sideburns while they're at it? Quote
cybercoma Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 The Quakers and Amish do reject American culture. The difference is that they don't take our social benefits and they don't promote violence. More qualifiers. For a lawyer, you're very imprecise and illogical with your language and arguments. Quote
jbg Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 Good thing you put that qualifier most in there. Since this is a thread about headscarves, do you believe Jewish women that wear headscarves in the West should stop too? How about men that wear those "funny" looking hats or yamulkas? Should they stop wearing those and perhaps growing their sideburns while they're at it? I find much, though not all, of that "traditional" garb offensive and inappropriate. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
BubberMiley Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 I enjoyed living in Outremont in my youth among the hasid. They wouldn't have anything to do with a gentile like myself, but they gave the neighbourhood a character that baseball caps and hoodies never could. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
jbg Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 I enjoyed living in Outremont in my youth among the hasid. They wouldn't have anything to do with a gentile like myself, but they gave the neighbourhood a character that baseball caps and hoodies never could. That's nice. That being said I don't enjoy their throwing rocks at an eight year old girl (Jewish) that they deem immodestly dressed. I hold them in no higher regard than militant Muslims. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
BubberMiley Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 That being said I don't enjoy their throwing rocks at an eight year old girl (Jewish) that they deem immodestly dressed. I hold them in no higher regard than militant Muslims. It's true they were pretty harsh in terms of disciplining their children, but that was none of my business. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
jbg Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 It's true they were pretty harsh in terms of disciplining their children, but that was none of my business. No. This incident happened to have been in Israel, and not involving people's own children. These creeps tossed rocks and cursed at a little girl, who was reduced to tears. I don't mind calling out fellow Jews' actions when they purport to be in the name of my religion and are disgusting. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
GostHacked Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 No. This incident happened to have been in Israel, and not involving people's own children. These creeps tossed rocks and cursed at a little girl, who was reduced to tears. I don't mind calling out fellow Jews' actions when they purport to be in the name of my religion and are disgusting. What is your take on the settlements? Since we are introduing the topic of 'calling out fellow Jews actions'. Or is it only dealing with religion specifically? Quote
jbg Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 What is your take on the settlements? Since we are introduing the topic of 'calling out fellow Jews actions'. Or is it only dealing with religion specifically? You are quite right that most of these ultra-religious fanatics are in the settlements. I agree that aside from providing security Israel should stop subsidizing their non-work. As far as the existence of settlements in general that is a different issue. I wish that the Arabs would be willing to live in peace if Israel withdrew from much of the West Bank. I doubt the Arabs would do that. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
GostHacked Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 You are quite right that most of these ultra-religious fanatics are in the settlements. I agree that aside from providing security Israel should stop subsidizing their non-work. As far as the existence of settlements in general that is a different issue. I wish that the Arabs would be willing to live in peace if Israel withdrew from much of the West Bank. I doubt the Arabs would do that. You'd have to withdraw first. Seems to be a key point and problem. Quote
The Right One Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 these terrorist ninja masks should be banned! the woman who pulled it off is a patriot and hero. Quote
Jack Weber Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 these terrorist ninja masks should be banned! the woman who pulled it off is a patriot and hero. Interesting...I have to say these ethnic face coverings are fairly distasteful, mainly because of their obvious fear of females in certain...shall we say...less forward thinking societies... I wonder who else,throughout history,you think is a "hero" and a "patriot" along these lines? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
jbg Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 I wonder who else,throughout history,you think is a "hero" and a "patriot" along these lines? Though I'll admit I waiver I don't see anyone as being a hero for pulling a hijab off a woman. All the same it is a legitimate expression of disgust with people who refuse to meld into Western society. I have a similar disgust for Chasidic Jews. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Jack Weber Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 Though I'll admit I waiver I don't see anyone as being a hero for pulling a hijab off a woman. All the same it is a legitimate expression of disgust with people who refuse to meld into Western society. I have a similar disgust for Chasidic Jews. Yeah...But what about the Amish and some Mennonites? And I was trying to dig a little deeper on his version of who was a historic "hero"... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
bleeding heart Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 Though I'll admit I waiver I don't see anyone as being a hero for pulling a hijab off a woman. All the same it is a legitimate expression of disgust with people who refuse to meld into Western society. I have a similar disgust for Chasidic Jews. What makes you think that it's "a legitimate expression" to do such a thing? Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
stopstaaron Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 I wish religious people did not immigrate here.. spiritual is fine though, its religion that is the problem Quote Don't ban me bro. Oh behave, I'll behave. I'll be a good little boy.
Jack Weber Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 I wish religious people did not immigrate here.. spiritual is fine though, its religion that is the problem You do understand the difference between faith and religion,right? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
stopstaaron Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 You do understand the difference between faith and religion,right? I do. Its when religious people get organized.. that is when the problems begin Quote Don't ban me bro. Oh behave, I'll behave. I'll be a good little boy.
jbg Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 You'd have to withdraw first. Seems to be a key point and problem. Why should Israel withdraw from anything without an ironclad, enforceable promise of permanent peace? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
cybercoma Posted April 1, 2012 Report Posted April 1, 2012 Peace is never permanent. As soon as Israel starts bulldozing homes in Palestine again, pushing the borders back as they always do, they'll be declaring war again. Quote
jbg Posted April 1, 2012 Report Posted April 1, 2012 Peace is never permanent. As soon as Israel starts bulldozing homes in Palestine again, pushing the borders back as they always do, they'll be declaring war again. What about a more likely scenario, that some person or group decides it's not bound by any agreement and sends out a hormone-crazed 17 year old to detonate himself on a bus? Why should Israel give up territories for some cosmic mumble about peace? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Guest Peeves Posted April 2, 2012 Report Posted April 2, 2012 Peace is never permanent. As soon as Israel starts bulldozing homes in Palestine again, pushing the borders back as they always do, they'll be declaring war again. More anti Israel rhetoric. The Hezbollah, Fatah and the Hamas policy and Mission Statements and Charter suggest why there is to no peace in the region so longas Israel exists and Jews and Kafir are on Islamic soil.. Israel has never said that all the occupied territory borders are fixed. When Israel is given recognition as a legitimate state and put on Arab maps, and no more rockets are fired at Israeli citizens, then there might be a negotiated peace. To give up is for Israel to be destroyed! If Israel capitulated, withdrew from the sliver of occupied territories and simply accepted the daily rockets as some apparently expect them to do, Israel and more millions of Jews would be eliminated. I suppose some anti-Semites could live with that. http://www.iris.org.il/sizemaps/arabwrld.htm Quote
Guest Peeves Posted April 2, 2012 Report Posted April 2, 2012 I do. Its when religious people get organized.. that is when the problems begin You and others consider all organized religions to be judged equally bad. Many organized religions and their adherents are far more to be praised than faulted. Quote
bleeding heart Posted April 2, 2012 Report Posted April 2, 2012 More anti Israel rhetoric. The Hezbollah, Fatah and the Hamas policy and Mission Statements and Charter suggest why there is to no peace in the region so longas Israel exists and Jews and Kafir are on Islamic soil.. Israel has never said that all the occupied territory borders are fixed. When Israel is given recognition as a legitimate state and put on Arab maps, and no more rockets are fired at Israeli citizens, then there might be a negotiated peace. To give up is for Israel to be destroyed! If Israel capitulated, withdrew from the sliver of occupied territories and simply accepted the daily rockets as some apparently expect them to do, Israel and more millions of Jews would be eliminated. I suppose some anti-Semites could live with that. http://www.iris.org.il/sizemaps/arabwrld.htm Are you implying that cybercoma is an anti-semite? Because that's a serious charge, and should be backed up with evidence. Just because moral cowards use the term so promiscuously doesn't mean it's automatically a legitimate talking point. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
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