Who do you trust?

[TheNewTeddy]

This is trust as in, trust to do what they say, and, trust to be ethical.

For example.

I am not a Socialist. I think Socialism is, in short, icky. However, the NDP says they want to do Socialist things. I trust them to do so ethically despite disagreeing with their ideals.

[mentalfloss]

The robocall thing is a wake up call for all Canadians and the media is playing up the lack of trust in the CPC quite well.

[Topaz]

The robocall thing is a wake up call for all Canadians and the media is playing up the lack of trust in the CPC quite well.

The media is doing because the Tories have shown over and over they can't be trusted, they did it to themselves and there's no trust left, except the hard core reformers out west.

[Boges]

The media is doing because the Tories have shown over and over they can't be trusted, they did it to themselves and there's no trust left, except the hard core reformers out west.

Recent polls don't support this theory.

[Wild Bill]

Anyone who blindly trusts ANY politician is a fool!

He or she is also a likely candidate to become a Moonie!

[Moonlight Graham]

Anyone who blindly trusts ANY politician is a fool!

Fixed.

[olpfan1]

I had to vote "Distrust in all ways" for all 3 parties

I guess I am one paranoid son of a bitch

[Smallc]

Politicians are simply people. Some lie, and some don't. Often, they're forced to change their position because of a finicky public...who then punishes them for changing their position, and would have done the same had they not.

[olpfan1]

Politicians are simply people. Some lie, and some don't. Often, they're forced to change their position because of a finicky public...who then punishes them for changing their position, and would have done the same had they not.

Since when do politicians listen to the people? Once you're an MP in the government you go by party lines when you vote, unless you're of the few who are true politicians and vote against your government or party in a controlled vote because it was the view / best interests of your constituents ..then you get punished

Edited March 8, 2012 by olpfan1

[Smallc]

Since when do politicians listen to the people? Once you're an MP in the government you go by party lines when you vote, unless you're of the few who are true politicians and vote against your government or party in a controlled vote..then you get punished

I'm sorry, but you seem to be missing the picture. The people at the top of the parties are also politicians.

[olpfan1]

I'm sorry, but you seem to be missing the picture. The people at the top of the parties are also politicians.

Are you saying Canadians want that omibus crime bill where it punishes pot heads more than child pornographers?

Or that Canadians prefer to be spied on? or that Canadians want more private prisons?

No, that is what that party wants, not Canadians

[j44]

Politicians are simply people. Some lie, and some don't. Often, they're forced to change their position because of a finicky public...who then punishes them for changing their position, and would have done the same had they not.

^I couldn't agree with this more.

[Smallc]

Are you saying Canadians want that omibus crime bill where it punishes pot heads more than child pornographers?

The people that the Conservatives are concerned about do, for the most part, unfortunately. You know, people don't all think the same.

[olpfan1]

The people that the Conservatives are concerned about do, for the most part, unfortunately. You know, people don't all think the same.

I doubt that, the conservative people that I know on this forum and in real life think pot should be legalized and regulated

[Smallc]

I doubt that, the conservative people that I know on this forum and in real life think pot should be legalized and regulated

Well, you don't know Conservatives like I do. There are enough that think the war on drugs is essential.

[olpfan1]

Well, you don't know Conservatives like I do. There are enough that think the war on drugs is essential.

That's because the conservatives you know are hillbillies from the Praries

[Smallc]

That's because the conservatives you know are hillbillies from the Praries

Maybe so, but, in case you didn't know, there are now almost 11 million people in the prairies. Now, they're not all Conservatives, and they don't all think the same way about drugs, but, there's more than a few of them. There are also more than a few in other provinces too. Just because you don't like people, it doesn't mean you can pretend they don't exist, and that their opinions aren't relevant to the formation of public policy. It just so happens, that these people have a strong influence on this government. It's too bad, but it's a reality.

[olpfan1]

Just because you don't like people, it doesn't mean you can pretend they don't exist

That's right, I can't pretend people I don't like don't exist until I become an MP for the sitting government

[Smallc]

That's right, I can't pretend people I don't like don't exist until I become an MP for the sitting government

Even then you can't. If there are enough of them in enough of your party's ridings, you have a problem.

[olpfan1]

I guess this was all just trying to appease the masses though

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/08/26/pol-.html

"The government's position has always been that the government governs for everyone," Harper said during a media availability at a Yellowknife hospital, where he announced extended territorial health funding Thursday.

"The government provides a clear direction in what we know are troubled economic times around the world, and the government is prepared to adapt and listen to the Canadian population when necessary

When necessary means when we do something bad we'll say we'll amend the bill but not really amend the bill in the sections which you want amended

[Smallc]

Sure, but there are signature initiatives, designed to appeal to core supporters, that are often non negotiable.

[cybercoma]

The people that the Conservatives are concerned about do, for the most part, unfortunately. You know, people don't all think the same.

Yeah, well unfortunately it's the Conservatives' responsibility to govern the entire country, not just a select group of people amounting to roughly 25% of the population.

[Smallc]

Yeah, well unfortunately it's the Conservatives' responsibility to govern the entire country, not just a select group of people amounting to roughly 25% of the population.

Is it? Why? The Conservatives have to run the governmental functions of the country. That doesn't mean that they always need to do what the majority wants. Representative government has never been so.

[olpfan1]

Sure, but there are signature initiatives, designed to appeal to core supporters, that are often non negotiable.

Harper has too many, I agreed with a couple of them ..being Getting rid of Kyoto & The Long Gun Registry, but The Long Form Census should have stayed, private prisons..don't need, mandatory sentences for Marijuana..don't need, Scrapping the Wheat Board..should have let the farmers vote on it themselves, The internet spying bill.. sure as hell do not need, the copyright bill.. sure as hell do not need!

It seems as if everything is their signature initiative

Isn't killing the Liberal party at the top of that list?

Edited March 8, 2012 by olpfan1

[Smallc]

In their defence, some of those things (copyright, internet monitoring) would probably be implemented by any government, and were in fact scheduled to be implemented by the Liberals.

Private prisons?

Edited March 8, 2012 by Smallc