wyly Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 I love it. The people who were saying "the election is 3 years away! These polls are all meaningless garbage!" Are now saying, "HA! Look at the NDP! They're going to lose!"yup as my poll shows something else...normally I wouldn't post a poll I look at polls for my own interest but if the poll booth thieves are going to post and gloat I'll add my own to balance things out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleClassCentrist Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) I love it. The people who were saying "the election is 3 years away! These polls are all meaningless garbage!" Are now saying, "HA! Look at the NDP! They're going to lose!" Harper has been doing a lot of fluff to turn around the conservative image... it worked a little bit. But, I can never personally vote for a party so closed and deceitful. Regardless of whether their polices merit consideration or not. Edited September 16, 2012 by MiddleClassCentrist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted September 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 He doesn't need to be. People believe he's going to run and win the leadership. Strange many people felt the same way about Tom Mulcair a year ago, yet the NDPs numbers were going down then though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Strange many people felt the same way about Tom Mulcair a year ago, yet the NDPs numbers were going down then though. From what I hear people are liking Mulcair, I think they will like him either more when isn't running against their own personal Liberal Jesus in their head and he is running against a real person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 I'm waiting until after the Fall budget comes dowm. I heard its 800 pages, last one was 400+. The Tories must going to hide alot more in this one and give the parties less than two months to debate in committee. This is just like the US, Congress passes the Bills and never know what's in them, and at least the NDP and Libs try to hold the Tories for what they put in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Wait until you see the internet spying and public surveillance garbage they're going to roll into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted September 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 From what I hear people are liking Mulcair, I think they will like him either more when isn't running against their own personal Liberal Jesus in their head and he is running against a real person. He just needs to get over his anger management issues and his boringness and he's a shoe in for PM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Justin T needs to spend some leadership time in opposition I think. I'm pleased at how Mulcair is maturing into the job. A very viable PM I think, with a viable agenda and without the underhandedness and one-man power trip we see with Harper. I think Mulcair actually believes in democracy, where Harper doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted September 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Thank god a new Nanos poll shows that the NDPs support is not evaporating!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilter Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Justin T needs to spend some leadership time in opposition I think. I'm pleased at how Mulcair is maturing into the job. A very viable PM I think, with a viable agenda and without the underhandedness and one-man power trip we see with Harper. I think Mulcair actually believes in democracy, where Harper doesn't. Yes, that's absolutely shown by the new topic Mulcair changing the NDPs position on sovereignty Nippy Democracy at it's finest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleeding heart Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) He just needs to get over his anger management issues and his boringness and he's a shoe in for PM! Being boring is approximately a zero percent issue. Consider the current, and previous PMs. Edited September 17, 2012 by bleeding heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Cons up 7 pts, liberal numbers up also, NDP are down. IMO The honeymoon is over and the NDP will sink down to where they belong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted September 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Being boring is approximately a zero percent issue. Consider the current, and previous PMs. Jean Chretien and Brian Mulroney weren't boring, neither was Pierre Trudeau. They're the three most recent successful Prime Ministers. Harper is of course dull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleeding heart Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Jean Chretien and Brian Mulroney weren't boring, neither was Pierre Trudeau. They're the three most recent successful Prime Ministers. Harper is of course dull. Yes, but I said current, and the one just previous (Martin). And Harper's run has been very successful, so boring is not always an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Yes, but I said current, and the one just previous (Martin). And Harper's run has been very successful, so boring is not always an issue. Not necessarily. It can also be that the alternatives are worse. If your choice is between boring and bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilter Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Jean Chretien and Brian Mulroney weren't boring, neither was Pierre Trudeau. They're the three most recent successful Prime Ministers. Harper is of course dull. Kreetin was as boring as a drive across southern Texas in January Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleeding heart Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Not necessarily. It can also be that the alternatives are worse. If your choice is between boring and bad... Fair point. Or between bad and bad...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Cons up 7 pts, liberal numbers up also, NDP are down. IMO The honeymoon is over and the NDP will sink down to where they belong. You must have missed the newest poll with the Cons and NDP tied. Looks like the Liberals are eating the Conservative vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 You must have missed the newest poll with the Cons and NDP tied. Looks like the Liberals are eating the Conservative vote. now wait for the replies claiming polls don't mean anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted September 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 You must have missed the newest poll with the Cons and NDP tied. Looks like the Liberals are eating the Conservative vote. Personally I don't look at polls unless there are leaders of all parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Personally I don't look at polls unless there are leaders of all parties. I would agree. These polls mean nothing. Maybe the Liberals have some sleeper that takes the center again and it is a brand new story. I don't know and I think we all have wait until it gets closer to an election to start at this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted September 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Kreetin was as boring as a drive across southern Texas in January What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted September 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 I would agree. These polls mean nothing. Maybe the Liberals have some sleeper that takes the center again and it is a brand new story. I don't know and I think we all have wait until it gets closer to an election to start at this stuff. In all seriousness polling is very important IMO. While they can change quickly long term trends can have huge impacts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Ok, now there is this poll, which couldn't be more different from the previous poll. I am going to have a look at the pdf details.. methodology etc. It may be a poll, but I don't believe the LPC is that low....and would expect them to be anywheres from 20 to 27%. New Abacus poll: http://abacusdata.ca/2012/09/24/federal-politics-conservatives-and-ndp-tied-at-35/ Con 35 NDP 35 Lib 17 Approval rates: Harper: -50 +35 Net -15 Mulcair: +36 -22 Net +14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 NDP: 35% Cons: 31% Lib: 20% BQ: 9% Green: 5% http://www.environics.ca/uploads/File/Environics-Research---Federal-Vote-Intention-Sept-27-2012.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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