bush_cheney2004 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 you should really acquaint yourself with what the term means, hey? Maybe...based on Canada's busy military over the past 20 years one could assume it means Prime Minister. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 Maybe...based on Canada's busy military over the past 20 years one could assume it means Prime Minister. c'mon... don't hold back - I'll even find your brazillion references to Serbia bombing and Haiti. Quit slacking! Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 c'mon... don't hold back - I'll even find your brazillion references to Serbia bombing and Haiti. Quit slacking! Hell, no wonder Canadian Forces swear allegiance to the Queen, as she actually served in the military! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 Hell, no wonder Canadian Forces swear allegiance to the Queen, as she actually served in the military! buddy, you can keep slagging the CF for all you're worth - means diddly to me. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 buddy, you can keep slagging the CF for all you're worth - means diddly to me. Apparently not...you wanted to get cute, but got burned instead. Most "chickendoves" do. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 Apparently not...you wanted to get cute, but got burned instead. Most "chickendoves" do. your revisionism is always countered by easy thread quotes... you know, the one where you puffed up and highlighted the handful of U.S. Congressional members with serving sons & daughters. As if a dozen or so stacks up against the hundreds of thousands deployed; against the thousands killed, injured and maimed... now that, that's your burning. Highlighting the special chickenhawk nature of most of your politicians, particularly those of the GOP stripe... well, that was gravy! Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 your revisionism is always countered by easy thread quotes... you know, the one where you puffed up and highlighted the handful of U.S. Congressional members with serving sons & daughters. Some fool claimed there were none....like taking candy from a baby Canadian. As if a dozen or so stacks up against the hundreds of thousands deployed; against the thousands killed, injured and maimed... now that, that's your burning. Highlighting the special chickenhawk nature of most of your politicians, particularly those of the GOP stripe... well, that was gravy! And yet we have a gaggle of Canadian PMs and MPs (I suspect) with even far less service for themselves or family. This is just getting too easy. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
olpfan1 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 compared to the military industrial complex south of us that is true BC Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 compared to the military industrial complex south of us that is true BC I know....it explains everything! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 Some fool claimed there were none....like taking candy from a baby Canadian. if you pull away from your revisionism and re-read his comment, you read a suggestion of, 'not recalling any'... not your now stated claim of, 'there were none'. And yet we have a gaggle of Canadian PMs and MPs (I suspect) with even far less service for themselves or family. This is just getting too easy. bully - we're not a nation predisposed to starting wars... proportionally speaking, we have far fewer chickenhawks than your country... which was the point, hey? For what it's worth I personally view it positively that we have few political leaders with any kind of military background. But keep barking anyway... you wear it well! Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 I know....it explains everything! it hilights how diverse the countries are... when theres a world war canadians have no problem serving but wars in the middle east for oil isn't something we want to jump into Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 it hilights how diverse the countries are... when theres a world war canadians have no problem serving but wars in the middle east for oil isn't something we want to jump into Oh no? See Gulf War I and the the recent NATO/Canada bombing of Libya. Canadian volunteers had no problem serving, just as they do today. The rest rioted in the streets or would only serve in Canada. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
olpfan1 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 Oh no? See Gulf War I and the the recent NATO/Canada bombing of Libya. Canadian volunteers had no problem serving, just as they do today. The rest rioted in the streets or would only serve in Canada. I thought we were going by how many were in the military Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 I thought we were going by how many were in the military We were....Canadian PMs come up a little short on that measure. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
olpfan1 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 We were....Canadian PMs come up a little short on that measure. I seen that, I personally don't have an opinion if they should or not though Quote
Guest Derek L Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 of course he did yabut... it's a real mystery how his low number never was called when others way beyond were and went to Vietnam. A googly shows two diverging themes; one that follows the "number never came up", and numerous references to call-ups for persons born after Jeb "the next one" Bush! Things that make you go hmmmmm. Did “W” not serve and receive an honourable discharge? That would prove your prior contention that he never served in the military incorrect……….As for Jeb, he was born in ‘53, thus being only 17 in 1970, at which point the United State had already considerably drawn down it’s forces in Vietnam…….. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 I seen that, I personally don't have an opinion if they should or not though That's OK...during the 1962 October Missile Crisis, Canada's DND ignored your PM and followed the American president with military service, JFK. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Did “W” not serve and receive an honourable discharge? That would prove your prior contention that he never served in the military incorrect………. Correctomundo....President Bush is a military veteran with service in the Texas ANG and honourable discharge. He type qualified in the Convair F-102 Delta Dagger, a high speed interceptor. Edited February 13, 2012 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Derek L Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 Correctomundo....President Bush is a military veteran with service in the Texas ANG and honourable discharge. He type qualified in the Convair F-102 Delta Dagger, a high speed interceptor. Yes, I already new that, I was just trying to see if Waldo would continue “Rathering” him...... From Waldo's link: Those who trained and flew with Bush, until he gave up flying in April 1972, said he was among the best pilots in the 111th Fighter-Interceptor Squadron. In the 22-month period between the end of his flight training and his move to Alabama, Bush logged numerous hours of duty, well above the minimum requirements for so-called ''weekend warriors.''Indeed, in the first four years of his six-year commitment, Bush spent the equivalent of 21 months on active duty, including 18 months in flight school. His Democratic opponent, Vice President Al Gore, who enlisted in the Army for two years and spent five months in Vietnam, logged only about a month more active service, since he won an early release from service. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 Yes, I already new that, I was just trying to see if Waldo would continue “Rathering” him...... Well, we know how that turned out. President Bush won a second term and Dan Rather got turfed. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Derek L Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) That's OK...during the 1962 October Missile Crisis, Canada's DND ignored your PM and followed the American president with military service, JFK. Indeed, my father (RCN Tracker pilot) remembers fall of ‘62 rather well…….After leaving a NATO exercise in the North Atlantic during the start of the crisis, The Bonnie proceeded to the Eastern seaboard to conduct “work-ups” with several Essex centered battlegroups that just happened to be taking part in the blockade of Cuba…….. Edited February 13, 2012 by Derek L Quote
waldo Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Did “W” not serve and receive an honourable discharge? That would prove your prior contention that he never served in the military incorrect……….As for Jeb, he was born in ‘53, thus being only 17 in 1970, at which point the United State had already considerably drawn down it’s forces in Vietnam…….. oh please, I never said he didn't "serve"... he just didn't "serve", conveniently, in Vietnam. Why I've posted a pic of his... daring (/snarc)... Mission Accomplished landing a few times around here, so I obviously know of his vaunted flight prowess - something about that codpiece, hey? In any case, clearly, the Dubya purposely avoided Vietnam with the Guard sign-up... and, in spite of a large contingent of the Air Guard actually being deployed to Vietnam, Bush never made it there that way either - go figure. Are you saying you're quite comfortable with all the post 72 service gaps/discrepancies of the oft described "AWOL Bush"? as for Jeb "the next one" Bush, again, he had a rather low number - many others with higher numbers than "the next one" were drafted and went to Vietnam... but not the Jeb - go figure. Edited February 13, 2012 by waldo Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 That's OK...during the 1962 October Missile Crisis, Canada's DND ignored your PM and followed the American president with military service, JFK. And the DND made the right choice... sometimes PMs don't make the right choice and need to be ignored Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) And the DND made the right choice... sometimes PMs don't make the right choice and need to be ignored http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=17241&view=findpost&p=588237 Scottish Deerhound won Best in Show. Bye! Edited February 13, 2012 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
olpfan1 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=17241&view=findpost&p=588237 Scottish Deerhound won Best in Show. Bye! I think Diefenbaker was pissed at the US government for being bossed around it was personal feelings getting in the way of national security Quote
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