cybercoma Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/28/pennsylvania-house-unanimously-violates-first-amendment-of-constitution-by-passing-bible-praising-resolution/ In a blatant violation of the Establishment Clause in the United States Constitution, the Pennsylvania House of Representatives passed a resolution declaring 2012 ‘The Year of The Bible,’ and praised the book as the greatest book of the year even though there are still 11 months left until 2013. The resolution declares that the Bible played a major role in the Constitution and the founding of America, even though there is no mention of the Bible, God, Jesus, or Christianity in the Constitution. The resolution goes on to cite the many Presidents who supposedly ‘paid tribute to the influence of the Bible in our country’s development,’ and declares that Americans ‘need to study and apply the teachings of the holy scriptures.’ Who was it that was saying religion just isn't that important to US politics again? In an odd reversal of what most nations have gone through in history, the United States seems to be regressing into religion, rather than progressing away from it. Quote "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." --Thomas Jefferson
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 In an odd reversal of what most nations have gone through in history, the United States seems to be regressing into religion, rather than progressing away from it. While Canada's Constitution Act has embraced "God" directly....and expresses preferences for religion in several provinces. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Moonlight Graham Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 The whole thing seems kind of useless. Why waste taxpayer dollars & rep time drawing up & voting on this? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) Resolutions by state legislatures honoring many different American cultural elements are common. Honoring the Bible was taken to the national level by the US Congress nearly 30 years ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_of_the_Bible Maybe 2001 was The Year of the Qu'ran. Edited January 30, 2012 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 While Canada's Constitution Act has embraced "God" directly....and expresses preferences for religion in several provinces. embraced? Yes, I recall you throwing this back on several MLW posters in the past. Of course, the reference exists only within the preamble to the Charter (specifically, "Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law"... and is viewed to carry no legal weight/attachment, in fact is contrary to a Charter section). Notwithstanding there is no definitive qualification as to what "God" implies, associates to/with, or reflects upon; i.e., spaghetti God? perhaps you're not aware the constitutions of over a dozen U.S. States make reference to "God"... and, uhhh... In God We Trust... "The resolution, smaller than a law but bigger than a wish" Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) embraced? Yes, I recall you throwing this back on several MLW posters in the past. Of course, the reference exists only within the preamble to the Charter What better place to put the The Flying Spaghetti Monster than in the beginning of a brand new Canadian Constitution Act! The other constitutional concessions to Catholics and Protestants predates this by many years, but who's counting, right? perhaps you're not aware the constitutions of over a dozen U.S. States make reference to "God"... I sure hope so, as it is their choice to do so. Canadians worried so much about the US Constitution and state resolutions should perhaps read a bit first, as there is no such prohibition, or even separation of church and state. That came later... Edited January 30, 2012 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 Canadians worried so much about the US Constitution and state resolutions??? no - see a fevered, foreign, U.S. MLW poster perpetually 'worried' that the Canadian Constitution supposedly, as he states, embraces... "God". Granted, there is no offered qualification as to whether the "worry" stems from an uncertainty as to whether it's the same "God" he trusts. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) no - see a fevered, foreign, U.S. MLW poster perpetually 'worried' that the Canadian Constitution supposedly, as he states, embraces... "God". Granted, there is no offered qualification as to whether the "worry" stems from an uncertainty as to whether it's the same.... I don't care about Canada's "God" any more than America's, but it is always fun to blow it back to anyone who does. It's what I do, don'tcha know? God Bless You Canada... Edited January 30, 2012 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 I don't care about Canada's "God" any more than America's, but it is always fun to blow it back to anyone who does. It's what I do, don'tcha know? God Bless You Canada... for someone who doesn't care, you spend an inordinate amount of time caring... of course, you do realize the song writer/singer of that lil' ditty you tubed is one of yours, right? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 for someone who doesn't care, you spend an inordinate amount of time caring... of course, you do realize the song writer/singer of that lil' ditty you tubed is one of yours, right? Of course, that just makes it funnier! This is the US Politics area, you know, the place for Canadians to officially opine about all things American. If I cared, I wouldn't laugh so much! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 Of course, that just makes it funnier! This is the US Politics area, you know, the place for Canadians to officially opine about all things American. If I cared, I wouldn't laugh so much! you care or you don't care - make up your mind. In any case, I trust (in your 'God'), we've dispensed with your ongoing care/worry that the Canadian Constitution supposedly, as you determine, embraces 'God' Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 you care or you don't care - make up your mind. In any case, I trust (in your 'God'), we've dispensed with your ongoing care/worry that the Canadian Constitution supposedly, as you determine, embraces 'God' Not at all...far be it for me to judge why "God" and "religion" are so important to Canada's Constitution Act(s) as late as 1982, but it is what it is. Maybe it's just me, but a nonbinding resolution from a state legislature honoring the Bible just doesn't measure up to that level of constitutional devotion to God. I think you guys use to say "God Save the Queen" too! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 Not at all...far be it for me to judge why "God" and "religion" are so important to Canada's Constitution Act(s) as late as 1982, but it is what it is. Maybe it's just me, but a nonbinding resolution from a state legislature honoring the Bible just doesn't measure up to that level of constitutional devotion to God. I think you guys use to say "God Save the Queen" too! you care, you really, really care! here, read it again... a one word reference in the Charter preamble; holds no legal bearing/attachment; is a contrary reference to the Charter proper; is undefined, has no association, has no qualification. Don't trust me, trust in your God - take your pledge!... "one nation under God", hey? as for measuring up, don't forget those dozen+ U.S. States that reference God in their constitutions Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 you care, you really, really care! Yes, I care about LMAO on a daily basis. here, read it again... Read what again? The Preamble is secondary to millions in payments to religious school districts in several provinces required by the freaking constitution. Amazing.... as for measuring up, don't forget those dozen+ U.S. States that reference God in their constitutions Yes, they were written before 1982! LOL! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 Yes, I care about LMAO on a daily basis. symptomatic of schizophrenia or bipolar disorder - just sayin Read what again? The Preamble is secondary to millions in payments to religious school districts in several provinces required by the freaking constitution. Amazing.... no problem - 3 provinces versus a dozen+ U.S. States. Hey now, I understand one of those States has a population greater than all of Canada - carry on! Yes, they were written before 1982! LOL! it's called patriation... didn't they teach you that in Regina? Quote
Guest American Woman Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/28/pennsylvania-house-unanimously-violates-first-amendment-of-constitution-by-passing-bible-praising-resolution/ Who was it that was saying religion just isn't that important to US politics again? In an odd reversal of what most nations have gone through in history, the United States seems to be regressing into religion, rather than progressing away from it. "Pennsylvania Passes Bill Praising The Bible" is actually incorrect - the Pennsylvania House passed the Bill. And fyi, the Pennsylvania House doesn't represent US Politics. <rolls eyes> Quote
waldo Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 "Pennsylvania Passes Bill Praising The Bible" is actually incorrect - the Pennsylvania House passed the Bill. And fyi, the Pennsylvania House doesn't represent US Politics. <rolls eyes> are you simply being pedantic... or do you have a real concern that full distinction wasn't offered to qualify the upper versus lower houses within the Pennsylvania General Assembly? I understand you created a New York City focused thread in this same U.S. Politics forum - yes? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) symptomatic of schizophrenia or bipolar disorder - just sayin ...perfect for climate change deciples too! no problem - 3 provinces versus a dozen+ U.S. States. Hey now, I understand one of those States has a population greater than all of Canada - carry on! Make it three dozen states...none have constitutional preferences for Catholics and Protestants. In the name of the Father..... it's called patriation... didn't they teach you that in Regina? No, they taught us not to kiss the British Parliament's ass for pretty please permission to have our own constitution. Maybe that's why you still have 'God' in your preamble? Edited January 30, 2012 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 are you simply being pedantic... or do you have a real concern that full distinction wasn't offered to qualify the upper versus lower houses within the Pennsylvania General Assembly? A delightful clarification that makes this BIG DEAL even smaller. Winter in Canada can be long and brutal I guess. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 Maybe that's why you still have 'God' in your preamble? no problem - like I said, it carries no weight, meaning, significance or bearing, hey Mr. "One Nation Under God"? Which "God" is your nation under, anyway? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 .... Which "God" is your nation under, anyway? The one that gives better weather to the USA. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
guyser Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 The one that gives better weather to the USA. only 2/3rds ! Quote
Guest American Woman Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 The one that gives better weather to the USA. Quote
waldo Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 perhaps you missed my earlier post reply: are you simply being pedantic... or do you have a real concern that full distinction wasn't offered to qualify the upper versus lower houses within the Pennsylvania General Assembly? I understand you created a New York City focused thread in this same U.S. Politics forum - yes? Quote
kimmy Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 Pennsylvania Passes Bill Praising The Bible Harmless. It could just as easily be The Year of To Kill A Mockingbird or The Year of Harry Potter. Over in Indiana, on the other hand, they've passed a bill that will require creationism to be taught in schools. Although, considering Indiana once tried to redefine Pi, I guess it's not too surprising. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
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