Azhar Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 Egypt's prestigious seat of Sunni learning, Al-Azhar, condemned on Friday an incident of what appears to be American forces urinating on dead Taliban fighters and described it as "a flagrant violation" of the sanctity of the fighters.The video, posted on YouTube and other websites, shows four men in camouflage Marine combat uniforms urinating on three corpses. One of them jokes: "Have a nice day, buddy." Another makes a lewd joke. "This is a flagrant violation of the sanctity of the Afghani martyrs, and it is shocking to the most basic principles of human civilisation," a senior adviser to grand imam of Al-Azhar told Reuters. The images reinforced a sense in the Muslim world that U.S. military campaigns in Afghanistan from 2001 and Iraq from 2003, were — far from bringing peace and democracy — an opportunity to assert U.S. power over Muslim populations. "This shows the emptiness and the absence of the values of the civilisation that those aggressors belong to," the Al-Azhar adviser said, quoting Sheikh Ahmed el-Tayyeb, the grand imam. Al-Azhar is Egypt's highest religious authority, training most of the country's imams and providing thousands of religious rulings (fatwas) daily. The incident also prompted anger in Afghanistan where the president condemned the video, describing the men's actions as "inhuman" and calling for an investigation. The Corps named a lead investigating officer whose job would include deciding what charges, if any, would be brought against the four men — all of whom have been identified, a Corps official told Reuters. abuse- http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/599926 They know nothing about what's right and wrong. Quote
prairiechickin Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 Yep, killing schoolgirls is all part of Allah's plan, but this urination thing is way over the line. Quote
Guest Manny Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 Yep, killing schoolgirls is all part of Allah's plan, but this urination thing is way over the line. Well, be that as it may, this video going 'viral' might only further radicalize muslims against the west. Sure, these things happen, but whoever took the video and published it didn't do us any favours. Winning said "War on Terror" is all about the propaganda. Quote
prairiechickin Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 I can see that this video doesn't help the western cause, but at the same time radical Muslims will kill over a cartoon, so I don't lose much sleep over what pisses them off. Quote
Shady Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 Well, be that as it may, this video going 'viral' might only further radicalize muslims against the west. Of course. Instead of throwing acid on girls that have the nerve to go to school, they're now going to throw stronger acid, right? Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 I can see that this video doesn't help the western cause, but at the same time radical Muslims will kill over a cartoon, so I don't lose much sleep over what pisses them off. What about what pisses off moderate Muslims? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Wild Bill Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 I can see that this video doesn't help the western cause, but at the same time radical Muslims will kill over a cartoon, so I don't lose much sleep over what pisses them off. Exactly! It will change little. Radical Islamists will continue to slay and torture innocents. They will continue to hate the West as much as they would have anyway. "American Infidels! Now we will blow you up twice! We will build our Trade Towers back up so we can crash them down again!" Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
prairiechickin Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 What about what pisses off moderate Muslims? Good point. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 They know nothing about what's right and wrong. They know it is right to turn Taliban fighters into dead martyrs. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
cybercoma Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 Yep, killing schoolgirls is all part of Allah's plan, but this urination thing is way over the line. You do know that it's not one or the other, right? Both deserve condemnation. You don't get a free pass because it's not as bad as killing schoolgirls (even though the US military has done that too). Quote
cybercoma Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 And Al-Azhar should be ashamed of calling the Taliban martyrs. They were oppressive and inhumane. Martyrs. F that. Quote
Guest Peeves Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 Well, be that as it may, this video going 'viral' might only further radicalize muslims against the west. Sure, these things happen, but whoever took the video and published it didn't do us any favours. Winning said "War on Terror" is all about the propaganda. Like an incident is needed to radicalize Muslims against the West. If they can be, they have been. Quote
Guest Manny Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 Exactly! It will change little. Radical Islamists will continue to slay and torture innocents. They will continue to hate the West as much as they would have anyway. "American Infidels! Now we will blow you up twice! We will build our Trade Towers back up so we can crash them down again!" Seems like it's having an effect here... radicalizing people like you guys. Quote
Guest Manny Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 Or is it too late for that ^ as well... Quote
prairiechickin Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 You do know that it's not one or the other, right? Both deserve condemnation. You don't get a free pass because it's not as bad as killing schoolgirls (even though the US military has done that too). Are you somehow suggesting that killing innocent schoolgirls and pissing on a dead enemy are even remotely on the same level? On the great list of war crimes, this one ranks pretty low on my radar. Filming it was stupid, but given the chance I'd piss on those assholes too. Quote
cybercoma Posted January 14, 2012 Report Posted January 14, 2012 Are you somehow suggesting that killing innocent schoolgirls and pissing on a dead enemy are even remotely on the same level? On the great list of war crimes, this one ranks pretty low on my radar. Filming it was stupid, but given the chance I'd piss on those assholes too. I didn't say they were on the same level, but they are definitely differences in degree rather than kind. Quote
jbg Posted January 15, 2012 Report Posted January 15, 2012 Yep, killing schoolgirls is all part of Allah's plan, but this urination thing is way over the line. Well, be that as it may, this video going 'viral' might only further radicalize muslims against the west. Sure, these things happen, but whoever took the video and published it didn't do us any favours. Winning said "War on Terror" is all about the propaganda. I can see that this video doesn't help the western cause, but at the same time radical Muslims will kill over a cartoon, so I don't lose much sleep over what pisses them off. I agree with prairiechickin on this. If someone is "radicalized" over a urination but not "de-radicalized" by a suicide bombing, they were pretty "radical" to begin with. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Jack Weber Posted January 15, 2012 Report Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) Islamofascists don't like thier bloodthirsty,and really dead, friends getting pee'd on... Two words... Eff 'em... Perhaps they can get all those virgins waiting for them to hose them down??? Edited January 15, 2012 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
jbg Posted January 15, 2012 Report Posted January 15, 2012 Perhaps they can get all those virgins waiting for them to hose them down??? The problem is that they're less attractive to the virgins if they reek (sp) of urine. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Jack Weber Posted January 15, 2012 Report Posted January 15, 2012 The problem is that they're less attractive to the virgins if they reek (sp) of urine. But I thought their collective "martyr" behaviour should be having these potential virgins prepared to do anything for them in a state of orgasmic delight??? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
jbg Posted January 16, 2012 Report Posted January 16, 2012 But I thought their collective "martyr" behaviour should be having these potential virgins prepared to do anything for them in a state of orgasmic delight??? Ask the virgins. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Guest Peeves Posted January 16, 2012 Report Posted January 16, 2012 Islamofascists don't like thier bloodthirsty,and really dead, friends getting pee'd on... Two words... Eff 'em... Perhaps they can get all those virgins waiting for them to hose them down??? That's a golden stream in selected usage. http://www.spike.com/video-clips/5i3ini/manswers-uses-for-your-stream Quote
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