PIK Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 What makes you think that? I mean, where were the Russians when Libya was getting bombed? Another way of looking at it is from a much larger perspective than a regional one. The boat is there in case we need to evacuate all the dual canadian citizenships and bring them back for their medical check ups and then we send them back happy and healthy, and of course actual canadians that are over there and might need help. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
olp1fan Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Posted November 21, 2011 I highly doubt anyone here is okay with what Assasd is doing Rue and if you think we bombed Libya to free them from Gadafi you dont have the slightest clue about the world Quote
Boges Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 (edited) I highly doubt anyone here is okay with what Assasd is doing Rue and if you think we bombed Libya to free them from Gadafi you dont have the slightest clue about the world LOL and you do. If the West was acting in accordance with their interests they should have allowed Gadafi to stay. Now we have a state, in Libya, that might be seized by the Muslim Brotherhood. Ghadfi was a dictator but at least, recently, he was one that would play ball with the west. I think the intervention in Libya was to keep him from killing the rebels using his technical advantage. Edited November 21, 2011 by Boges Quote
olp1fan Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Posted November 21, 2011 Yes Shaw, lets arm our future enemies, you really learned from the first gulf war haven't you Quote
olp1fan Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Posted November 21, 2011 LOL and you do. If the West was acting in accordance with their interests they should have allowed Gadafi to stay. Now we have a state, in Libya, that might be seized by the Muslim Brotherhood. Ghadfi was a dictator but at least, recently, he was one that would play ball with the west. I think the intervention in Libya was to keep him from killing the rebels using his technical advantage. no, its known that Gadafi was about to drop the green back and France also had interests in Libya not what you said Quote
olp1fan Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Posted November 21, 2011 What makes you think that? I mean, where were the Russians when Libya was getting bombed? Another way of looking at it is from a much larger perspective than a regional one. Russia had no interests in Libya but they do with Syria Quote
Boges Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 no, its known that Gadafi was about to drop the green back and France also had interests in Libya not what you said Can you quote a reliable source on this? Quote
olp1fan Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Posted November 21, 2011 (edited) Can you quote a reliable source on this? you arent going to read it on fox or cnn or cbc since all they publish are propaganda but here is the truth http://www.goldstockbull.com/articles/libya-invasion-gaddafi-plan-gold-dinar/ google Gaddafi gold dinar there are dozens of links Edited November 21, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
GostHacked Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 Can you quote a reliable source on this? That's been covered in several threads so far. Quote
olp1fan Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Posted November 21, 2011 why not ask yourself of all the civil wars the world has had in the past where NATO did not intervene why Libya? Quote
Shwa Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 Russia had no interests in Libya but they do with Syria Can you provide some more information on this please? Like a cite or something? Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 Can you provide some more information on this please? Like a cite or something? He can't...he's talking out his arse : Russia Set to Lose Billions in Libya Russia's belated recognition of Libya’s provisional leadership on September 1 carried a hint of desperation.For months, Moscow had refused to recognize the National Transitional Council (NTC), was reluctant to distance itself from Muammar Qaddafi, with whom it had good relations, and was critical of NATO's military campaign to assist rebel fighters. But with the NTC now in control of most of Libya, Russia fears that it could lose billions of dollars in energy, defense, and infrastructure contracts it had negotiated with the ousted Qaddafi regime. Russia's state arms exporter, however, has already lost an estimated $4 billion in Libyan contracts after an arms embargo was imposed on Libya by the UN Security Council in March.And other deals also appear to be at risk. Russian state-run natural gas monopoly Gazprom, for example, has invested $200 million in energy exploration in Libya over the last five years. Oil firms Gazprom Neft and Tatneft also have exploration and extraction contracts worth billions of dollars, including recent deals to expand existing development projects. And Russian Railways had secured a $3 billion contract to build a high-speed rail link from Sirt to Benghazi. Many of these contracts were either signed in Qaddafi's presence or were organized by him personally. Russia's state news agency ITAR-TASS estimates that the country could lose as much as $10 billion in business if Libya's new leadership challenges the legality of the existing contracts. Quote
olp1fan Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Posted November 21, 2011 (edited) Can you provide some more information on this please? Like a cite or something? Russia needs Syria like they need Iran Russia has military in Syria too There wont be an intervention in Iran or Syria because Russia n China wont allow it Edited November 21, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 Russia needs Syria like they need Iran Russia has military in Syria too There wont be an intervention in Iran or Syria because Russia n China wont allow it Iran cancels Gazprom contract for Azar oilfield Iran has cancelled plans for Russia’s Gazprom to develop its Azar oilfield because of “repeated” delays and awarded it to domestic contractors, a financial daily reported yesterday.“Unfortunately, the Russian Gazprom company delayed fulfilling its undertakings and NIOC had given it repeated warnings, which were never heeded,” Donyaye-e-Eqtesad quoted National Iranian Oil Company head Ahmad Qalehbani as saying. “It was decided that we terminate our cooperation with this company in the Azar oil field, and assign the project to domestic contractors,” he said. Gazprom Neft, the oil unit of Russia’s state-controlled gas producer Gazprom, was to evaluate the project’s technical and economic feasibility before preparing a full-fledged contract.But in recent months, as Western sanctions on Iran’s oil and gas sector ratcheted up, Tehran repeatedly accused Gazprom of dragging its feet to sign the final contract. Gazprom's name keeps popping up in stories relating to Syria, Iran and Libya…….Russia lost billions in Libya, why didn’t they intervene there? Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 Gazprom's unit signs 160-mln-euro gas refinery deal with Syria Gazprom's construction arm signed a 160-million-euro deal with its Syrian counterpart to build another gas refinery in the country, Russia's regional development minister said Thursday.The company, Stroitransgaz, a unit of the Russian energy giant, will build the refinery near the ancient Roman city of Palmyra, 150 miles northeast of Damascus, within two years, Vladimir Yakovlev said after a two-day session of the bilateral cooperation commission. It’s almost like the Russians like Middle Eastern oil & gas…… Quote
Argus Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 (edited) Canada is prepared to join international military intervention in Syria if sanctions and diplomacy fail = what we did in Libya Really? Well, then, thank God we have the Russians and Chinese, those noble protectors of defenseless oil states, to make sure that doesn't happen, eh? Let the blood (and oil) flow! Edited November 21, 2011 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
olp1fan Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Posted November 21, 2011 Really? Well, then, thank God we have the Russians and Chinese, those noble protectors of defenseless oil states, to make sure that doesn't happen, eh? Let the blood (and oil) flow! I hope Russia bitch slaps NATO down, its about time for them to Quote
GostHacked Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 Iran cancels Gazprom contract for Azar oilfield Gazprom's name keeps popping up in stories relating to Syria, Iran and Libya…….Russia lost billions in Libya, why didn’t they intervene there? Haliburton to the rescue!!! Which would be just as bad. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 I hope Russia bitch slaps NATO down, its about time for them to Never happen....The Russian ship(s) in the Med would have a lifespan measured in hours, at most days, thanks to ComSubLant & Task Force 66 / 69.... Quote
GostHacked Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 Never happen....The Russian ship(s) in the Med would have a lifespan measured in hours, at most days, thanks to ComSubLant & Task Force 66 / 69.... I would not discount the Russians that easily. And sure China may have crappy ships, but being the ones who mass produce almost everythying we buy, they can pump ships out without problem. US Navy - YEah we sunk every ship we see, but damn they keep coming!!! Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 I would not discount the Russians that easily. And sure China may have crappy ships, but being the ones who mass produce almost everythying we buy, they can pump ships out without problem. US Navy - YEah we sunk every ship we see, but damn they keep coming!!! Though now nearly twenty years dated, I’d suggest you read Tom Clancy’s SSN and his fictional take of a naval war with China…….The difference, the Russian and Chinese navies haven’t progressed substantially in that time. Quote
olp1fan Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Posted November 21, 2011 Dont be daft Derek, NATO will back down if Russia steps up to them NATO is too weak after 10 years of wars Quote
blueblood Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 Dont be daft Derek, NATO will back down if Russia steps up to them NATO is too weak after 10 years of wars And Russia is too weak after they have witnessed NATO obliterate countries using their equipment and tactics. Russia couldn't step up if they wanted to. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
olp1fan Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Posted November 21, 2011 And Russia is too weak after they have witnessed NATO obliterate countries using their equipment and tactics. Russia couldn't step up if they wanted to. yeah like NATO will mess with Russia now that China is their number 1 ally Quote
blueblood Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 yeah like NATO will mess with Russia now that China is their number 1 ally Just like Russia and china can't mess with NATO. How does china like the USA marine corps enjoying some shrimp on the barby in Australia? Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
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