bush_cheney2004 Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 There's a reason 15, 16, and 17 year olds don't get to vote. But like many Canadian adults, they are conditioned as wannabe Americans because they watch America so closely. The least we can do is return the "favor"....LOL! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 But like many Canadian adults, they are conditioned as wannabe Americans because they watch America so closely. The least we can do is return the "favor"....LOL! On this side of the 49th it's spelled favour. If you are going to make a stab at us at least use the Canadian English spellings. Gives you more 'cred'. Quote
sharkman Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 anyone who quotes scriptures of the bible to make a political point or a moral issue is a radical By the same token, just as atheists can have radical beliefs, not all religious people have radical beliefs. I would hope you're able to recognize that. Fact is, the vast majority don't. So whose definition of radical do we use? Because everyone has a different definition of what makes one radical. I have to laugh at the idea that Obama is not religious. He went to the same evangelist style church(by that I mean Rev. Wright was a shouter behind the pulpit) for 20 years. Raised his kids in that church. It's funny how people will change the facts when they personally like someone. Quote
sharkman Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 Yeah, I can just imagine a Muslim POTUS. I have to imagine it because it would never happen. That's what they said about a black president too. And there is good reason to believe Obama is also Muslim. Quote
jbg Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 Man you can be a pain in the bum. Also being quite hypocritical in talking about Canada, when we should mind our own business because we are not American. I'll pull this once for both you and BC_2004. What the hell do you know about Canada being an American? Maybe you should mind your own business or learn a thing or two. I would never put AW and BC 2004 in the same sentence unless I belong there too. The only thing they have in common is nationality. One is a serious, thoughtful poster. The other is frequently, but not always, a nasty, crabby, obnoxious troll.In the end the way I see it, is the GG is a representative head of state when the Queen is not here. Sounds right to me. I am one for kicking the Monarchy out of Canada, if it really is just symbolic and does not provide any benefit for Canada, it's time to let it go. Don't count me as agreeing. Spiritually and culturally the Queen acts for the English-speaking world, including the U.S. She came to celebrate the 400th anniversary of Jamestown's settlement, which started the permanent settlement by the English-speakers of the Americas. She came for the Bicentennial year. I think we should all keep her. If the U.S. Constitution weren't a serious imopediment I'd make the current President a PM (but choose him or her the same way as now chosen) and make the British royal the head of state. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 That's what they said about a black president too. And there is good reason to believe Obama is also Muslim. I second that. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Guest American Woman Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 Yeah, I can just imagine a Muslim POTUS. I have to imagine it because it would never happen. If you can't imagine a Muslim being qualified to hold the office, then that speaks of you; and that being the case, I guess you'll just have to go on imagining it. I have to laugh at the idea that Obama is not religious. He went to the same evangelist style church(by that I mean Rev. Wright was a shouter behind the pulpit) for 20 years. Raised his kids in that church. It's funny how people will change the facts when they personally like someone. Evidently I missed it - Who has said that Obama isn't religious? Quote
sharkman Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 Postjbg, on 18 November 2011 - 05:13 PM, said: In the U.S. Barack Obama is fighting the (probably accurate) perception that he's a Muslim. It's far more likely that he's an atheist. AW, I was thinking of this comment when responding. It's from a few days ago, but I responded because I've heard similar comments before. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 AW, I was thinking of this comment when responding. It's from a few days ago, but I responded because I've heard similar comments before. Thank you. I not sure smallc particularly likes Obama, though; I think he may have just been stressing the fact that he doesn't think Obama is a Muslim - but that's just my take on it. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 I would never put AW and BC 2004 in the same sentence unless I belong there too. The only thing they have in common is nationality. One is a serious, thoughtful poster. The other is frequently, but not always, a nasty, crabby, obnoxious troll. Why thank you....it's great to be an American just like you, even if you do have your own self serving hangups, personal contacts neurosis, and a history of destroying Canadian web forums. If the U.S. Constitution weren't a serious imopediment I'd make the current President a PM (but choose him or her the same way as now chosen) and make the British royal the head of state. Hmmm...on second thought, maybe you aren't such a great American. Keep sleeping with the enemy! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 So when do the self admitted trolls get a holiday from MLW? Quote
olp1fan Posted November 25, 2011 Author Report Posted November 25, 2011 I think Obama is any religion he needs to be when campaigning Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 ...and I think Ignatieff is any nationality he needs to be when delivering speeches. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
olp1fan Posted November 25, 2011 Author Report Posted November 25, 2011 ...and I think Ignatieff is any nationality he needs to be when delivering speeches. I didn't like Ignatief Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 I didn't like Ignatief Neither did the rest of Canada. Did he take his old job back at WalMart? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
olp1fan Posted November 25, 2011 Author Report Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) Neither did the rest of Canada. Did he take his old job back at WalMart? I think he is back torturing his students with boring lectures its easy to not like him..just watch this and here is iggy getting pwnd by layton as harper stands back and watches with glee Edited November 25, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 and here is iggy getting pwnd by layton as harper stands back and watches with glee Spooky.....Ignatief lost big time to a dying man. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
olp1fan Posted November 25, 2011 Author Report Posted November 25, 2011 Spooky.....Ignatief lost big time to a dying man. You can have Ignatief back, we don't want him Quote
g_bambino Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 As it stands, our Head of State is determined by lineage not an election where anyone can throw their hat in the ring. It's not a democratic process in that sense. Well, pick and choose which sense of democratic you want; but, we still have a democratic system of government and the Queen reigns at our behest. I didn't say Canada is not a democracy. Er... Canada is not a democracy. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 Er... Yea...he hates that. Now you will be troll that doesn't contribute anything! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
g_bambino Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 So in other words, the sky's the limit, eh? Anyone can become Canada's monarch - if there's an amendment to the Constitution. Yes. As it stands, no Canadian citizen can ever aspire to be head of state of [y]our own country Well, see above. Or, consider the fact that there are two Canadian citizens currently in line for the throne. But, otherwise, so what? It's called discrimination. Yes, and you and I have already covered this subject: there are discriminatory rules governing access to the post of head of state in every country in the world. You may balk at the nature of some of the rules that govern who can and cannot be Canada's head of state, and may even be right in doing so; but, you can't slam them simply for being discriminatory. Not without being a hypocrite, anyway. Quote
cybercoma Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 Since it obviously wasn't clear, Canada is not a democracy when it comes to selecting our Head of State. We don't get to choose our Head of State, unless we change the Constitution, the latter being the only democratic process on the matter. In which case, we would have to revamp our entirely political system, as you've argued in the other thread about removing the monarch. The process of choosing our Head of State is democratically not democratic. Quote
cybercoma Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 Yea...he hates that. Now you will be troll that doesn't contribute anything! I've learned more from bambino in a single post than all of your posts combined. Quote
g_bambino Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 We don't sweep such things under the rug. It's not that the provisions of the Act of Settlement are "swept under the rug", really. It's more a matter of simple ignorance stemming from Canadians (unfortunately) being generally disinterested in and poorly educated about their own system of government. It's not as though there was any deliberate attempt on the part of the government or media to hide the fact that the succession laws, including those parts that relate to Catholicism, were raised for debate at the last CHOGM; there were plenty of articles about it in the news and on television (though mostly inaccurate). Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 I've learned more from bambino in a single post than all of your posts combined. I sure hope so....I don't worship kings and queens in another country. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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