olp1fan Posted November 10, 2011 Report Posted November 10, 2011 (edited) Nice to see that Harper is really serious on fighting crime..what a f****** prick He wasted OUR money on fighting elections Canada for doing something underhanded http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/deal-ends-part-of-financing-fight-between-tories-elections-canada/article2232120/ The Canadian Press has learned that a deal has been reached to end one round of a long-running campaign financing fight between the Conservative Party and Elections Canada. The party is set to agree to what a caucus source called “administrative imperfection” for the way it handled advertising spending during the 2006 federal election. As a result, sources say charges against four senior Conservative officials – including two senators – for breaking the Elections Act are being dropped. The two sides are expected in an Ottawa court this afternoon on the so-called in-and-out case. The Tories have consistently maintained they did nothing wrong in shuffling money between national and local campaigns in the 2006 election. But Elections Canada had said the scheme allowed the national party to exceed its spending limit by permitting local candidates to claim rebates on expenses they hadn't actually incurred. Edited November 10, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
punked Posted November 10, 2011 Report Posted November 10, 2011 So they are saying we are Guilty but don't want anyone to take the fall. Spineless. Quote
olp1fan Posted November 10, 2011 Author Report Posted November 10, 2011 I want to throw a shoe at Harper...it'd be worth the life sentence in prison Quote
scribblet Posted November 10, 2011 Report Posted November 10, 2011 I want to throw a shoe at Harper...it'd be worth the life sentence in prison Go for it, and remember to bend over for the soap ! Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Topaz Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 Was there any doubt?????? They knew they were running a scam when they did it, but as always, they use the same excuses, we didn't know or we won't do it again, we'll listen to the auditor and do it differently and the sad thing is the voters let them away with it. I think Harper and his gang has broken more rules or changed them to suit their agenda. Just look at what they are going to the Vets. Quote
Smallc Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 It seems that it was wrong, but not that bad, or the charges wouldn't be dropped. Quote
Topaz Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 It seems that it was wrong, but not that bad, or the charges wouldn't be dropped. They were found guilty and fined. They are spinning their excuses again. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 Shouldn't the thread title read " Guilty plea ends financing fight between Tories, Elections Canada"??? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
scribblet Posted November 11, 2011 Report Posted November 11, 2011 That's about it and now they can get to work cleaning the Liberals out of Elections Canada. Elections Canada has spent approximately $1.3-million on legal counsel and legal advice related to the Conservative Party since 2005 yet ever single Conservative accused of wrongdoing has been cleared because after 5 years they have finally determined that they could not or should not prove otherwise. As the media blurb said: The Conservative Party of Canada plays by the same rules as everyone else acting under the law as it was understood by Elections Canada at that time. When it was clear that Elections Canada had changed its interpretation of the law, the Conservative Party adjusted its practices for the 2008 and 2011 election campaigns. Ultimately, Conservative candidates spent Conservative dollars on Conservative ads. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
August1991 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 That's about it and now they can get to work cleaning the Liberals out of Elections Canada.Elections Canada has spent approximately $1.3-million on legal counsel and legal advice related to the Conservative Party since 2005 yet ever single Conservative accused of wrongdoing has been cleared because after 5 years they have finally determined that they could not or should not prove otherwise. My thinking too. The same logic applies to CBC/Radio-Canada, the Wheat Board, Foreign Affairs and other departments/bureaucracies in Ottawa.Harper is right to take these people on progressively. Quote
dre Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 My thinking too. The same logic applies to CBC/Radio-Canada, the Wheat Board, Foreign Affairs and other departments/bureaucracies in Ottawa. Harper is right to take these people on progressively. Yeah. Thats AWSOME that he broke campaign finance laws! Woohooo! Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
August1991 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) Yeah. Thats AWSOME that he broke campaign finance laws! Woohooo! Uh, did Harper break a campaign finance law?Or, did Ottawa bureaucrats decide that Harper/Conservatives broke a campaign finance law? dre, have you ever dealt with Ottawa bureaucrats? Edited November 12, 2011 by August1991 Quote
dre Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 Uh, did Harper break a campaign finance law? Or, did Ottawa bureaucrats decide that Harper/Conservatives broke a campaign finance law? dre, have you ever dealt with Ottawa bureaucrats? I just think youre dying to give them a pass. The funny thing is the maximum fine for what they were charged with was 2000 dollars and the Conservative party paid 52 thousand to make the charges go away. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
jacee Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 So I guess Harper's only tough on SOME crime ... and it's not the 'white collar' kind! Quote
Shwa Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 That's about it and now they can get to work cleaning the Liberals out of Elections Canada. Ah the old Righteous Patronage & Political Nepotism comes out of the closet. Because, you know, when the cons 'clean' the Liberals out of Elections Canada, they will replace them with neutral people. Quote
olp1fan Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) its kind of funny and kind of sad that cons blame everyone else but their politicians when they are caught breaking the rules contempt of parliament? nah that was just the opposition playing games elections canada? oh they are all liberals and can't get over losing their government G8 slush fund? them pesky left wingers trying to make nothing into something conservative apologists make me sick and I hope karma finds you in life and deals you a dose of it Edited November 12, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
punked Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 Uh, did Harper break a campaign finance law? Or, did Ottawa bureaucrats decide that Harper/Conservatives broke a campaign finance law? dre, have you ever dealt with Ottawa bureaucrats? I don't know let me do a little research...............Seems after doing some reason the Conservative admitted they were guilty and pleaded out so I guess they did break campaign finance law isn't that what a guilty plea means? Quote
blueblood Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 I don't know let me do a little research...............Seems after doing some reason the Conservative admitted they were guilty and pleaded out so I guess they did break campaign finance law isn't that what a guilty plea means? It could also mean that paying 50 grand or so to make the case go away is cheaper for Canadian taxpayers than going through with it. Not to mention dousing the fire as cheap as possible. You do know that some people settle out of court to save the headache. Would you lawyer up every time you got a speeding ticket or pay the thing off right away? Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
scribblet Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 It could also mean that paying 50 grand or so to make the case go away is cheaper for Canadian taxpayers than going through with it. Not to mention dousing the fire as cheap as possible. You do know that some people settle out of court to save the headache. Would you lawyer up every time you got a speeding ticket or pay the thing off right away? E.C. have allready spent 1.3 million on this and the CPC, who knows, it's beneficial to both parties to reach a deal and move on. No one was found guilty as that couldn't be proven. Four years from now it won't mean anything, the majority of people will just yawn and move on, but the few 'pseudo intellectuals' will continue to rant.. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
jacee Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) The Conservative Party and its fundraising arm on Thursday pleaded guilty to lesser charges of breaching campaign spending limits and failing to report all expenses. http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/conservative-senators-avoid-charges-in-elections-canada-plea-deal/article2232120/?service=mobile GUILTY of CRIMES Soft on their OWN crimes and those of the 1%'rs, Only TOUGH on the crimes of the poor. Edited November 12, 2011 by jacee Quote
olp1fan Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Posted November 12, 2011 It could also mean that paying 50 grand or so to make the case go away is cheaper for Canadian taxpayers than going through with it. Not to mention dousing the fire as cheap as possible. You do know that some people settle out of court to save the headache. Would you lawyer up every time you got a speeding ticket or pay the thing off right away? LMAO yeah right...how many millions of tax payer dollars did the cons waste trying to close inSite? and what about all of the other cases that they took or were taken to court for? you just made my LOL of the day Quote
olp1fan Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Posted November 12, 2011 Four years from now it won't mean anything, the majority of people will just yawn and move on, but the few 'pseudo intellectuals' will continue to rant.. you mean like how cons still rant about libs and sponsorship scandal? i don't see why they still go on about that the cons have been the government since 2006...but i guess its the same with libs and the brian mulrooney reign they still whine about that I have a feeling this cycle will repeat itself Quote
cybercoma Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 ever single Conservative accused of wrongdoing has been clearedYou do realize the Conservative Party plead guilty, right? Quote
cybercoma Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 You do know that some people settle out of court to save the headache. You do realize the Conservative Party plead guilty, right? Quote
scribblet Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 They plead guilty to end it, same as some people makes deals and plead guilty rather than spend any more money fighting it, thus keeping it in the public eye. Doesn't mean they actually where guilty... Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
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