cybercoma Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 (edited) Yeah, Bubber. He called the cops because they wouldn't let him leave. That's why dispatch had to call him back ten minutes later when the cops showed up and he wasn't there. Edited October 29, 2011 by cybercoma Quote
WWWTT Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Let me get this straight. You don't think it's wrong for adults, even if they are from a TV show (not sure how that grants them special status), to scare kids? To remain uninvited on private property? To try to prevent one from leaving their property? And you don't think a parent should look out for their child? You don't think that would be an obligation and responsibility? Ok then what would you do then? If I was leaving for work in the morning and someone out of the blue came onto my property I know what I would do. I would tell that person or group that they are tresspasing and if they do not leave I will call the police! Whats so hard about that? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Guest American Woman Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 My refusal to answer? Yeah. I'm sure that's what tells you all you need to know. Your ignorance and stubborness have already informed you of all you need to know before you even asked the questions. Still refusing to answer the questions, eh? I understand why - either way, no matter how you answer, it's not going to look good on you. So do plead The Fifth. As you insult me. It's your way. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 I've got a novel idea, AW... he could have said, "I'm late for a meeting and don't have time to do this right now. Please leave." Or... call 911. Whatever. Quote
BubberMiley Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 AFTER HE CALLED THE POLICE! HE CALLED THE POLICE BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING TO PREVENT HIM FROM LEAVING. My lord. I suppose I shall have to call 911 next time I meet a pushy salesman or Jehovah's Witness. They might delay my progress on my day! While they can't really prevent me from doing what I want, I might lose a step. Gracious me. But I only wish you didn't respond with the inanities so incessantly. There's hope for me yet. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Guest American Woman Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Ok then what would you do then?If I was leaving for work in the morning and someone out of the blue came onto my property I know what I would do. I would tell that person or group that they are tresspasing and if they do not leave I will call the police! Whats so hard about that? Ummmm. Nothing, which is why I said it was the right thing to do, that they had no right to remain on his property, no right to attempt to detain him. Not sure what you are driving at here .............. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 They didn't remain on his property or detain him. You obviously didn't watch the video, so stop talking out of your ass. This isn't even a political issue. It's a matter of a grown man acting like a complete idiot. Quote
Shwa Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Posted October 29, 2011 So you respond to Crude generalizations about the Left with Crude Generalizations about the Right. Usually when there is humour in it. Do you have a personal problem with me doing that? Who are these old cranky people you're referring to? Do you really need to ask? Most have conceded that the 911 call was an overreaction. And most conceded that going to his home first thing in the morning was in bad taste. Even Black Dog conceded that. As I said Wednesday both sides were wrong, let's move on. How many times is the Halloween joke going to be repeated in this thread BTW? The CBC kept this story alive by reporting details they have no evidence to support. And people are believing those details without any evidence, just un-named sources. Someone is lying for sure but from every media report I've heard, even from the Star. No one's sources are agreeing with the CBC's version of the story. So unless these sources reveal themselves there's no reason Ford needs to release the tape. The whole plot is hilarious! Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 They didn't remain on his property or detain him. You obviously didn't watch the video, so stop talking out of your ass. This isn't even a political issue. It's a matter of a grown man acting like a complete idiot. I didn't say they did - I said they attempted to - they prevented him from being able to leave, which is why he went back inside. But yeah, I'm "talking out of my ass." Once again, unless you answer the questions, I'll assume you condone this type of behavior around a frightened child. Now have a wonderful day just being you. Quote
Shwa Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Posted October 29, 2011 That "big scary woman" was on his private property, preventing him from leaving. What gives someone the right to do that? I doubt whether the fact that it was "22 Minutes" overrides a person's rights. Who is saying rights are involved? His child was with him, he didn't want to participate/be involved. They crew should have stopped there; preventing him to leave was crossing the line - especially with his child there. Children are often afraid of Halloween costumes, even when shown it's one of their friends underneath. Did they prevent him from leaving? Was the child afraid? Was it... dark? When someone refuses to leave your property and prevents you from leaving, you have every right to call the police. He did not take matters into his own hands, he did the right thing, IMO. He called 911. That is an emergency response line. The phone number for "the police" is a little different. Having said that, it still sort of always amazes me just a little bit how this type of thing becomes about "the left" and "the right." That has nothing to do with it. Because the people on the right are so bitter all the time. Otherwise, I agree. He was under no obligation to participate and they had no right to try to prevent him from leaving. I think it would have been odd if he had involved his child in such a stunt. His child was his first concern, his first obligation. Did they prevent him from leaving? Was the child afraid? Was it... dark? Quote
Shwa Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Posted October 29, 2011 ... they had no right to remain on his property, no right to attempt to detain him. And they didn't. Quote
jacee Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 In fact, I didn't even hear him tell them to leave. I think that might be the first step, before calling 911. Robfuckingford is good entertainment ... but that's all. Quote
WWWTT Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Ummmm. Nothing, which is why I said it was the right thing to do, that they had no right to remain on his property, no right to attempt to detain him. Not sure what you are driving at here .............. The point I am making is that from the video aired,Rob Ford did not tell the CBC crew that they are tresspasing nor did he ask them to leave.(he did tell them that he wanted to get in his car) You must make your intentions clear to the other party.I have done this before!Why can't Ford? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Keepitsimple Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 (edited) This thread is another good example of how the Left usually engages an issue with anger and derogatory commentary. Just take a peek through this thread and separate the Ford-haters from the rest. On one side (the Left) is anger and vitriole. On the other is an absence of the same. It doesn't apply to all that is Left and Right but it's an all too common trait. When the Left do not get their way, they stamp their feet and stoop to name-calling. Did I mention that the CBC leans just a teeny, weeny bit to the Left? Edited October 29, 2011 by Keepitsimple Quote Back to Basics
WWWTT Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Robfuckingford is good entertainment ... but that's all. Can you please stop cursing? Thank you WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
BubberMiley Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 This thread is another good example of how the Left usually engages an issue with anger and derogatory commentary. This thread is another good example of how people on the Right often like to try to reduce issues down to an "us versus them, left versus right" equation when they feel like they are losing an argument. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Nice, this cirlce-jerk is up to 25 pages now. I know you guys have it in you to get to 100! I just know it! Quote
BubberMiley Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 This thread is another good example of how people on the Right often like to try to change the subject and equate discussion with masturbation when they feel like they are losing an argument. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
WWWTT Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Nice, this cirlce-jerk is up to 25 pages now. I know you guys have it in you to get to 100! I just know it! How is this comment adding to the debate? Your just being rude and vulgar! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
msj Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 That "big scary woman" was on his private property, preventing him from leaving. What gives someone the right to do that? I doubt whether the fact that it was "22 Minutes" overrides a person's rights. His child was with him, he didn't want to participate/be involved. They crew should have stopped there; preventing him to leave was crossing the line - especially with his child there. Children are often afraid of Halloween costumes, even when shown it's one of their friends underneath. When someone refuses to leave your property and prevents you from leaving, you have every right to call the police. He did not take matters into his own hands, he did the right thing, IMO. Having said that, it still sort of always amazes me just a little bit how this type of thing becomes about "the left" and "the right." That has nothing to do with it. He was under no obligation to participate and they had no right to try to prevent him from leaving. I think it would have been odd if he had involved his child in such a stunt. His child was his first concern, his first obligation. I really don't understand why people do not understand how a civil and free society works. It's really quite simple - if someone is on your private property and you do not wish to partake with them then you politely ask them to leave. It may, gasp, require you to repeat yourself several times as you make your way towards you car so that you can leave. Hardly anything worth pressing charge over and certainly not worthy of using police resources. Not to say that if someone is threatening you you don't call 911 - which I why I would like to hear the tapes. They likely will show either an angry Ford calling 911 simply out of anger or they will show him as a coward cowering from a TV crew without the social/political skills to extract himself from the situation by using the easy and civil remedy mentioned above (repeatedly saying "please let me go on my way" does not usually make it on TV and certainly does not make the news days after the event has happened). Now, I wonder, AW, have you watched the video? Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Shady Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 How is this comment adding to the debate? There is no debate. That ended about 20 pages ago. Quote
WWWTT Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 There is no debate. That ended about 20 pages ago. Then why are you still making vulgar comments? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Rick Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Maybe Max, but it is sad to hear the tone of some of the posters in this thread. It boils down to :"Since Ford is a rightwinger and I hate him anyway then screw him and who gives a crap about the child of a rightwinger!" It's seems like partisan callousness to me! They would care more for some abstract concept of a starving child in Bangladesh than they show for Ford's daughter. As far as I'm concerned, Ford isn't the only one showing bad character. I wouldn't want some of these posters anywhere near MY children! Please tell us you don't have children.I'm starting to think that perhaps Children's Aid should be asked to investigate Ford's actions. Quote “This is all about who you represent,” Mr. Dewar (NDP) said. “We’re (NDP) talking about representing the interests of working people and everyday Canadians and they [the Conservatives] are about representing the fund managers who come in and fleece our companies and our country. Voted Maple Leaf Web's 'Most Outstanding Poster' 2011
Rick Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Then why are you still making vulgar comments? WWWTT Because he likes being the one in the middle? Quote “This is all about who you represent,” Mr. Dewar (NDP) said. “We’re (NDP) talking about representing the interests of working people and everyday Canadians and they [the Conservatives] are about representing the fund managers who come in and fleece our companies and our country. Voted Maple Leaf Web's 'Most Outstanding Poster' 2011
Boges Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 (edited) This thread is another good example of how people on the Right often like to try to change the subject and equate discussion with masturbation when they feel like they are losing an argument. Well what is the subject? You want the subject to be about his poor judgement in calling 911 when it seems he didn't really need to. It's beyond me why people in this thread I are still debating why he did call 911. Sure it was a spaz move. He's not going to get charged for it and if anyone thinks this incident will follow him in 3 years they're delusional. I want the discussion to be about why the CBC thought it was a good idea to go to his house in the first place and why they aired a story about a 911 call that can't be confirmed by any alternative sources. In fact the alternative is true. Most sources including the city's chief refute the CBC's claim. Edited October 29, 2011 by Boges Quote
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