olp1fan Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 should Canada join them? Harper recently said Iran is the single greatest threat to world peace and with this new alleged assassination plot it seems like they are getting the public ready for a war Harper and Israel are BFFs Harper says Islamicism is a major threat Has Iran done anything to justify us invading them? Do you support Canada going to war against Iran? If you do, I want you to justify it for me Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) Why not? Canada went to war with Iraq, Serbia, Libya, and others for far less years before. What's the big deal about Iran? Just call it more human rights violations and Responsibility to Protect and you will be golden. Hell, Ignatieff can right another book. Edited October 17, 2011 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
maple_leafs182 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 Definitely not. We should end all our involvement in all wars abroad and bring all our troops home. Canada should get the hell out of NATO. Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
GostHacked Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 Yay, like we need another war, when does this end? We need to gtfo of Afghanistan now, and also gtfo of this Libya crap. Are people trying to start another freakin world war? What is gained by waring with Iran? Quote
Wild Bill Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) What is gained by waring with Iran? Well, it might help a few ambassadors sleep at night. And it may prevent a few nukes from destroying Israel. But really, I guess you're right. Why should we support our best allies? Of course, they'll still always be there for us, right? And even if they're not, so what? Canada would never need allies anyway, right? There would be no negative effects on our trade relationships, I'm sure. Any jobs we lose for not supporting the US would be easily made up by improving trade with European countries like say, Greece! We just have to advance them some credit! Yeah, that's it! That's the ticket! Bring all our troops home! Screw our allies! Things will be fine! Really! We will have Peace in our time! Fer sure! A chicken in every pot! Two cars in every garage! Really! Just trust me! Edited October 17, 2011 by Wild Bill Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
capricorn Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 Yeah, that's it! That's the ticket! Bring all our troops home! Screw our allies! Things will be fine! Really! Yeah, all we have to defend are expansive borders on two oceans. And the Arctic border, who cares? And the Americans to the south are our friends, right? What's to worry about? We'll sail our ship alone. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Bryan Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 Absolutely not. The U.S. has been caught fabricating "evidence" against other countries far too many times. Enough is enough. Quote
Wild Bill Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 Absolutely not. The U.S. has been caught fabricating "evidence" against other countries far too many times. Enough is enough. Yeah, that's it! Iran is really a nice guy, honest! It's all a fabrication! Just ask those women who got lashed! That wasn't real pain! It was just a fabrication! It's all lies! Iran is like...Owen Sound! The prettiest little country you could imagine! Those stories about Iran wanting to nuke Israel are all US lies! As Bullwinkle J Moose used to say "It's all just a figamentation of your imagination!" Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Guest Derek L Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) should Canada join them? Harper recently said Iran is the single greatest threat to world peace and with this new alleged assassination plot it seems like they are getting the public ready for a war Harper and Israel are BFFs Harper says Islamicism is a major threat Has Iran done anything to justify us invading them? Do you support Canada going to war against Iran? If you do, I want you to justify it for me Invade them? Nah, nobodies going to do that…….Nation building is passé……..Even the chances of a Libyan style campagain are next to nil……..I’ll predict, if any military action takes place with Iran, we’ll hear about after on the news after the Israeli air force has returned home…….. But, if the Americans/British/Australians etc were to get involved, I don’t see a reason why we wouldn’t or shouldn’t………The Persian Gulf, right or wrong, is a major hub within the world’s economy………. Edited October 17, 2011 by Derek L Quote
jbg Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 Yeah, that's it! Iran is really a nice guy, honest! It's all a fabrication! Just ask those women who got lashed! That wasn't real pain! It was just a fabrication! Be nice. Now instead of stoning adultresses to death they're lashing them or throwing them off cliffs. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Moonlight Graham Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 Those stories about Iran wanting to nuke Israel are all US lies! Please provide evidence where Iran threatened to nuke Israel. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
olp1fan Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Posted October 17, 2011 Yeah, all we have to defend are expansive borders on two oceans. And the Arctic border, who cares? And the Americans to the south are our friends, right? What's to worry about? We'll sail our ship alone. If the Americans were our friend they would not be so admant on saying the NW Passage belongs to the world, its obviously in canadian territory Quote
olp1fan Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Posted October 17, 2011 Please provide evidence where Iran threatened to nuke Israel. there is none, it was misinterpreted on purpose so all the war hawks could beat the drums of war Quote
olp1fan Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Posted October 17, 2011 But, if the Americans/British/Australians etc were to get involved, I don’t see a reason why we wouldn’t or shouldn’t………The Persian Gulf, right or wrong, is a major hub within the world’s economy………. so you see Canada as a lemming? if your best friends jumped off of a cliff into jagged rocks would you join them? Quote
olp1fan Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) I vote NO! Edited October 17, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
Bonam Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 Yeah, that's it! Iran is really a nice guy, honest! It's all a fabrication! Just ask those women who got lashed! That wasn't real pain! It was just a fabrication. There may well come a time when intervention in Iran becomes expedient. However, what they do to their own citizens, women or otherwise, will at most be used as a bone of justification to throw to lefties (not that it will satisfy them). You don't spend billions of dollars and risk the lives of your soldiers to go correct a perceived injustice in what some other nation is doing to its own people. Without some security or economic interest, Iran could be murdering its people by the thousands, as Syria recently did, and we would still not intervene. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 so you see Canada as a lemming? if your best friends jumped off of a cliff into jagged rocks would you join them? No, not at all…….we have our own economic interests in the Middle East Quote
olp1fan Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Posted October 17, 2011 No, not at all…….we have our own economic interests in the Middle East important enough to go to war for? like what? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 important enough to go to war for? like what? Why does Canada go to war now? Same reasons as that.... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
olp1fan Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Posted October 17, 2011 Why does Canada go to war now? Same reasons as that.... I don't understand your post Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) I don't understand your post What has changed for Canada's foreign policy interests to match your change in expectations? Over the past 15 years, Canada has intervened all over the world...militarily! Edited October 17, 2011 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
olp1fan Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) What has changed for Canada's foreign policy interests to match your change in expectations? Over the past 15 years, Canada has intervened all over the world...militarily! It had nothing to do with our interests ( that we were told about anyway) id still like to know what our "interests" we have there.. oil? not likely Afghanistan was our biggest war obviously Iraq was minor other than sending a few dozen soldiers and money Libya, Kosovo were sizable wouldnt call that All over the world as you put it Edited October 17, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
Keepitsimple Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) deleted Edited October 17, 2011 by Keepitsimple Quote Back to Basics
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 It had nothing to do with our interests ( that we were told about anyway) id still like to know what our "interests" we have there.. oil? not likely ASk your government...not me. Afghanistan was our biggest war obviously See NATO and UN charters for an explanation of why Canada was there. Iraq was minor other than sending a few dozen soldiers and money Errr...no...Gulf War I included CF-18 strike aircraft dropping bombs on Iraqis. Some Canadians don't like to remember that. Then there was UN sanctions enforcement with frigates. Libya, Kosovo were sizable As was Bosnia...Haiti not so much...just invade the airport and help kidnap the democratically elected president. wouldnt call that All over the world as you put it Let's see...Asia, check. Europe, check. Americas, check. Africa, check. All that's missing is Antarctica! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
cybercoma Posted October 17, 2011 Report Posted October 17, 2011 No way. I'm sick of this precedent the United States started with their "pre-emptive" wars. Anyone can claim to be pre-emptively protecting themselves. This discussion we're having alone warrants Iran attacking the United States or previous discussions would warrant North Korea attacking the US. When Iran actually does something, then we can discuss what we should do. Until then this is nothing more than fear and war mongering. Quote
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