dre Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 http://lightyears.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/11/dna-discovered-in-meteorites/?hpt=hp_c1 Apparently theyve been finding this for a while and just assuming it was contamination coming from the earth. They found fragments of double helix DNA strands that they are pretty sure are not from earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 America's tax dollars at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted August 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 America's tax dollars at work. Not really. The rest of the world funds the US government too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Not really. The rest of the world funds the US government too. Then just anybody could do it....right? Who needs slobbering devotion to NASA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Not really. The rest of the world funds the US government too.Not really. The world (read: China) gets interest in return for their money. It is American taxpayers who are stuck with the bill in the end (unless there is a default). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 DNA from space.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOmLxwYyfA0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Cool finding. I remain confident that there is a lot more life out there in the galaxy than most people expect. Perhaps not much intelligent life in our near vicinity or we'd have seen evidence of it by now, but life of some form certainly. I'd say the odds for finding life in the sub-glacial oceans of Europa are really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Well, the existence of intelligent life on earth is still up for debate by some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 America's tax dollars at work. Real important work. Ten billion dollars and not a drop of water or one lousy microbe...those that want to find ANY life they can are desperate not to be alone ---if we are alone in the universe that would mean we might have to be responsible for each other - heaven forbid we do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 http://lightyears.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/11/dna-discovered-in-meteorites/?hpt=hp_c1 Apparently theyve been finding this for a while and just assuming it was contamination coming from the earth. They found fragments of double helix DNA strands that they are pretty sure are not from earth. More bullshit from egg head nerds that are totally disconnected from the human race - how about finding a bit of food and sending it to SomaliaÉ That would be a real miracle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 More bullshit from egg head nerds that are totally disconnected from the human race - how about finding a bit of food and sending it to SomaliaÉ That would be a real miracle. Somalia got its shot almost 20 years ago....the world has moved on....as have many Somalis. Miracles go to those who know how to use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 More bullshit from egg head nerds that are totally disconnected from the human race - how about finding a bit of food and sending it to SomaliaÉ That would be a real miracle. Teach a man to fish, Oleg. If he doesn't want to learn then paying for his meal tab forever is not a positive solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Teach a man to fish, Oleg. If he doesn't want to learn then paying for his meal tab forever is not a positive solution. The homespun wisdom of Mark Twain era Americana... if only the poor wretches of Africa could hear this their problems would be solved I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Teach a man to fish, Oleg. If he doesn't want to learn then paying for his meal tab forever is not a positive solution. how condescending...they know how to fish, farm, etc...when international fishing corporations have depleted the fish stocks and it doesn't rain to water the crops you can teach them all you want but there still won't be any food on the table... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) how condescending...they know how to fish, farm, etc...when international fishing corporations have depleted the fish stocks and it doesn't rain to water the crops you can teach them all you want but there still won't be any food on the table... baloney....no one in somalia even fished 35 years ago. The Somali fishing fleet is largely artisanal. Cooperative fishermen have about 700 small boats (6 to 8 m long),and private fishermen operate an additional 100 boats of similar size. The Somali Government helped the fishermen buy and motorize these vessels under the country's 1974-78 development program. The only commercial vessels are operated by the state-owned company Somalfish, which has I Itrawlers. These vessels are based in Kismayu and are about 23-27 m long. According to Ministry sources, none of these trawlers are currently operational, due to technical problems. http://spo.nmfs.noaa.gov/mfr4412/mfr44124.pdf Now, instead of fishing, of which the claim that the oceans are delpleted is without merit, have turned to crime Edited August 12, 2011 by M.Dancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) how condescending...they know how to fish, farm, etc...when international fishing corporations have depleted the fish stocks and it doesn't rain to water the crops you can teach them all you want but there still won't be any food on the table... Just to make sure, I just read the Wiki "History of Somalia". Isn't it possible that socialist governments, alliances with the Soviet Union, ethnic prejudices and rampant tribalism, civil wars and racist atrocities might have had some small influence? It seems to me that if you gave many Somalis a fish their first act would be to hit their neighbour over the head with it! Next you're going to tell me that evil capitalistic corporations put guns to the heads of the Tutus to make them murder the Hutus... At least, you're not being condescending. Edited August 12, 2011 by Wild Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 It seems to me that if you gave many Somalis a fish their first act would be to hit their neighbour over the head with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Teach a man to fish, Oleg. If he doesn't want to learn then paying for his meal tab forever is not a positive solution. You can't teach a man to fish when an arms dealer has supplied an AK to be held to the head of the potential fisherman - buy someone that does not want to be a fisherman but preferes the lucrative buisness of piracy. The bad guys in Somolia should have been whiped out years ago -but of course there is no oil there - only people killing people. So arms dealing is the only foreign investment that is profitable. Hey if you can and it is possible - what's wrong with paying "his meal tab forever" if that be the case? Better to let them suffer and rot - no sane person can look at one of the skeletal kids and say in good conscience....I should teach that dying kid to fish...or say "no way am I giving that waste of skin a slice of bread...Somalia - is like the other worst parts of Africa - a useless failed state not worth investing anything in - so lets just have them all die off and we might do some mining there at a later date...Just shows you that we are not a civlized species. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) Hey if you can and it is possible - what's wrong with paying "his meal tab forever" if that be the case? Better to let them suffer and rot - no sane person can look at one of the skeletal kids and say in good conscience....I should teach that dying kid to fish...or say "no way am I giving that waste of skin a slice of bread...Somalia - is like the other worst parts of Africa - a useless failed state not worth investing anything in - so lets just have them all die off and we might do some mining there at a later date...Just shows you that we are not a civlized species. You must be a richer man than I am to expect me to pay "his meal tab forever". I was sort of hoping I could pay for a chinese food meal for my daughter this weekend. Maybe even put enough aside to pay my taxes this year! Thanks for the guilt trip! Besides, if we buy their food then their leaders can afford guns! That's how India got the atomic bomb. We fed their people with our wheat as foreign aid. It dollars are just about equivalent to their bomb program! Edited August 12, 2011 by Wild Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Teach a spoiled western suburbantite to fish - and eat the damned thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 You must be a richer man than I am to expect me to pay "his meal tab forever". I was sort of hoping I could pay for a chinese food meal for my daughter this weekend. Maybe even put enough aside to pay my taxes this year! Thanks for the guilt trip! Besides, if we buy their food then their leaders can afford guns! That's how India got the atomic bomb. We fed their people with our wheat as foreign aid. It dollars are just about equivalent to their bomb program! I was wondering how that backward snake loving cow protecting shit hole of a society got themselves those fancey nukes - we bought it for them? Kind of like sending a welfare cheque to Jane and Finch and opening up a food bank on every corner - leaves some disposable cash to buy are real nice 9mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Just to make sure, I just read the Wiki "History of Somalia". Isn't it possible that socialist governments, alliances with the Soviet Union, ethnic prejudices and rampant tribalism, civil wars and racist atrocities might have had some small influence? It seems to me that if you gave many Somalis a fish their first act would be to hit their neighbour over the head with it! Next you're going to tell me that evil capitalistic corporations put guns to the heads of the Tutus to make them murder the Hutus... At least, you're not being condescending. ya that's it socialism, tribalism, ethnic tensions cause over fishing by foreign fisherman and droughts as well! how couldn't I have seen that, wow sure glad you're here to keep us informed...you should run for PM or head of the UN you're a foreign affairs genius... what an eye opener I never would've guessed socialism causes droughts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 ya that's it socialism, tribalism, ethnic tensions cause over fishing by foreign fisherman and droughts as well! how couldn't I have seen that, wow sure glad you're here to keep us informed...you should run for PM or head of the UN you're a foreign affairs genius... what an eye opener I never would've guessed socialism causes droughts.... Capitialism and the generating of wealth causes - have nots - and the rest ....but there is a by product - to the generation of too much wealth - dirt! screws up the weather - and causes it to rain were it is not needed and to burn what is already burned....not saying that it is not natural...Jezz. that was pitiful on my part...........just hoping to impress BC - not working today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 ya that's it socialism, tribalism, ethnic tensions cause over fishing by foreign fisherman and droughts as well! how couldn't I have seen that, wow sure glad you're here to keep us informed...you should run for PM or head of the UN you're a foreign affairs genius... what an eye opener I never would've guessed socialism causes droughts.... You're setting up a straw man argument. Once again, I might add. Socialism does not cause droughts. However, socialistic societies seem to lack the brain power and initiative to cope with droughts. We all remember stories about how in the old USSR an area might harvest a record crop of vegetables, only to have them sit for weeks on a railroad train and go rotten before they could reach the people who wanted to eat them! Perhaps you could name us a couple of socialistic countries that run very efficiently with such things. Even if you find a few, I doubt if Somalia would make the list. Look at Israel! They had very little fresh water so they developed desalination technology to the point where not only do the plants supply their cities but irrigation projects for food as well! No doubt evil multinational corporations sent mercenaries to Somalia with big guns to make sure they didn't do anything similar or so progressive. I'm a techie. One thing I've learned over the years is that you can be in an area with few resources but brain power can usually come up with something to help you survive. You can either try science and techology or you can sit around and bitch that other countries owe you a handout! There was a clip on one of my science pages some months ago about a young man in some part of Africa that invented a pump made with PVC pipe that gave his village access to well water for the first time. His pump is now being used by hundreds of other villages. What's happening in Somalia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 The only thing that the Somalia fishes for these days are tankers full of oil with passive Scandinavian crews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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