Herman Cain for POTUS?

[Guest American Woman]

The question marks in the title of this thread are (partly) due to the fact that I'm still wondering if this is a joke:

Former Federal Reserve insider Herman Cain, being touted by various media outlets as a “Tea Party favorite,” officially announced on May 21 that he would be seeking the 2012 Republican nomination for President.

The former CEO of Godfather’s Pizza broke the news at a rally in Atlanta, Georgia. He told the assembled crowd that he was getting in the Republican race because he thought the American Dream was under attack. “I'm running for president of the United States, and I'm not running for second," he said. link

It gets better:

“I like Herman Cain, even hearing his name,” she [sarah Palin] said. “I get kind of excited thinking about what it is he has to offer in the discourse and the debate.”

Though he’s never held an elected office, Palin cited Cain’s experience as the head of the Godfather's Pizza franchise as qualification enough to lead the country: “He knows how to make a payroll … He knows how to make a really good pizza.” link

Really??

Are there no good qualified people out there? Is Obama going to be handed a second term?

[Guest American Woman]

I can't help myself - I'm still laughing at this:

"He knows how to make a payroll - He knows how to make a really good pizza."

It's on the ABC news site - so it's got to be real, right? It's not actually Tina Fey or the Onion et al making fun of Palin?

[Shady]

So I guess you're just brushing aside people like Jon Huntsman, Tim Pawlenty, and Mitt Romney? Why the need to focus soley on Herman Cain? Who btw, at least isn't an economic illiterate like Mr. Obama.

[Guest American Woman]

So I guess you're just brushing aside people like Jon Huntsman, Tim Pawlenty, and Mitt Romney? Why the need to focus soley on Herman Cain? Who btw, at least isn't an economic illiterate like Mr. Obama.

We'll have to see how serious Huntsman is. Can't say I'm impressed with the other two.

But seriously, the names that have been in the news as possible GOP candidates does leave one shaking their head in disbelief. I can't help but wonder how Trump feels about Cain's announcement. 'Damn! That could have been me!' But then, as far as I know, he doesn't know how to make a good pizza, so it's hard to say if Palin could have supported his bid.

But to answer your question, Herman Cain is apparently "the Tea Party favorite," and I thought it was all about the Tea Party. I thought that was a good thing to focus on. Are you now saying it's not?

[Shady]

We'll have to see how serious Huntsman is. Can't say I'm impressed with the other two.

Huntsman is announcing this week I believe. And Pawlenty and Romney are pretty impressive candidates. Especially Pawlenty lately.

But seriously, the names that have been in the news as possible GOP candidates does leave one shaking their head in disbelief.

Well, the names in the news help with ratings of the particular news outlets. Especially Trump. Nobody's gonna get great ratings, hits to websites, or sell newspapers covering the normal, button-down candidates.

But to answer your question, Herman Cain is apparently "the Tea Party favorite," and I thought it was all about the Tea Party. I thought that was a good thing to focus on. Are you now saying it's not?

There is no monolithic Tea Party. I've seen polls where Romney leads in Tea Party support. It all depends on the polls, and when their conducted. But the fact that there's fringe candidates means as much now, as it did in 2008 when the Democrats had people like Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel running. You remember Mike Gravel dont you?

[scouterjim]

The question marks in the title of this thread are (partly) due to the fact that I'm still wondering if this is a joke:

Former Federal Reserve insider Herman Cain, being touted by various media outlets as a “Tea Party favorite,” officially announced on May 21 that he would be seeking the 2012 Republican nomination for President.

The former CEO of Godfather’s Pizza broke the news at a rally in Atlanta, Georgia. He told the assembled crowd that he was getting in the Republican race because he thought the American Dream was under attack. “I'm running for president of the United States, and I'm not running for second," he said. link

It gets better:

“I like Herman Cain, even hearing his name,” she [sarah Palin] said. “I get kind of excited thinking about what it is he has to offer in the discourse and the debate.”

Though he’s never held an elected office, Palin cited Cain’s experience as the head of the Godfather's Pizza franchise as qualification enough to lead the country: “He knows how to make a payroll … He knows how to make a really good pizza.” link

Really??

Are there no good qualified people out there? Is Obama going to be handed a second term?

Elect the former CEO of a company that makes some of the most terrible pizzas in the US? What next?

[August1991]

Are there no good qualified people out there? Is Obama going to be handed a second term?

Let's be honest. 2012 is for Obama to lose.

Between 1960 and 1980 or so, America went through a patch of instability. American presidents didn't get re-elected. Nowadays, America is once again a stable democracy and Obama will likely get re-elected (unless the economy does a double dip).

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IMHO, Herman Cain is a Ross Perot of the Right. Americans (and Canadians or other people in democracies for that matter) prefer to elect men with public careers for high office. In the US, most recent presidents have been state governors. In Canada, all federal PMs have been federal MPs before becoming party leader- even Mulroney. (John Thompson, a Catholic in Nova Scotia was the only provincial PM ever to become a federal PM. In Canada unlike the US, we don't choose our federal PMs among provincial PMs.)

True, Eisenhower never held elected office until he was president. But then, IMHO, Herman Cain is no Eisenhower. (BTW, Cain impresses me and I think that he would make a good president.)

I can't help myself - I'm still laughing at this:

"He knows how to make a payroll - He knows how to make a really good pizza."

It's on the ABC news site - so it's got to be real, right? It's not actually Tina Fey or the Onion et al making fun of Palin?

Jack Layton just won over 50 seats in Quebec. Amercia voted a black guy as president. George Bush's son got elected twice.

Maybe social media has changed how people vote.

Edited May 23, 2011 by August1991

[maple_leafs182]

How is Herman Cain the tea party favourite. The real tea party wants to end the Federal Reserve, I doubt a former director for the Kansas City Fed has any intentions on ending the Fed.

The tea party started around Ron Paul's 2008 presidential bid, he is the tea party favourite. If you look at most polls, Ron Paul is always comes in first.

[WIP]

But to answer your question, Herman Cain is apparently "the Tea Party favorite," and I thought it was all about the Tea Party. I thought that was a good thing to focus on. Are you now saying it's not?

We don't know how serious the Republicans are about supporting Herman Cain, but based on past evidence, they like to have at least one token black candidate...as long as he throws his people under the bus in favour of the rightwing pro-business agenda.

As for the Tea Party....this clown show was never a real populist movement from the start. It was mostly astroturf - fake grassroots, with nothing but a few old cranks who get bussed around to demonstrate with signs that are already made for them in advance. and it looks like the joke has worn thin, judging from this ridiculous story in a South Carolina newspaper about their supposed tea party favourite Governor - Nikki Haley, speaking before an enthusiastic crowd of 30 people in front of the state capital, because Donald Trump cancelled his appearance....at least so we're told! Tough week for Tea Party ends with fizzling rally

[bush_cheney2004]

We don't know how serious the Republicans are about supporting Herman Cain, but based on past evidence, they like to have at least one token black candidate...as long as he throws his people under the bus in favour of the rightwing pro-business agenda...

His people? How patronizing and racist can you be in one post? The Democratic party is no stranger to "tokenism" as defined by your (strangely non-objective) criteria.

[Pliny]

We don't know how serious the Republicans are about supporting Herman Cain, but based on past evidence, they like to have at least one token black candidate...as long as he throws his people under the bus in favour of the rightwing pro-business agenda.

I'm certain Mr. Cain, and some of the more rational democrats, would take exception to you playing the race card like that. Your hard core lib-left patronizing reveals how you truly feel about "his" people - and it ain't pretty.

As for the Tea Party....this clown show was never a real populist movement from the start. It was mostly astroturf - fake grassroots, with nothing but a few old cranks who get bussed around to demonstrate with signs that are already made for them in advance. and it looks like the joke has worn thin, judging from this ridiculous story in a South Carolina newspaper about their supposed tea party favourite Governor - Nikki Haley, speaking before an enthusiastic crowd of 30 people in front of the state capital, because Donald Trump cancelled his appearance....at least so we're told!

Wow! Still not endearing yourself to the more rational portion of "your" people, I'm sure. You are slurping up too much of that hard left kool-aid and I hope you and "your" people just continue to parrot such spiteful demagoguery. We want your honest opinions.

[Bob]

Elect the former CEO of a company that makes some of the most terrible pizzas in the US? What next?

Is it really that bad? I've never had it.

His people? How patronizing and racist can you be in one post? The Democratic party is no stranger to "tokenism" as defined by your (strangely non-objective) criteria.

WIP reveals his own prejudices with that statement. WIP seems to be one of those folks who views Republicans and conservatives as racist until proven otherwise, while completely oblivious to his own racism.

One a side note, but still regarding Herman Cain, here's a video of him appearing to be prejudices against Muslims. Take about generalization...

Edited May 24, 2011 by Bob

[scouterjim]

Is it really that bad? I've never had it.

It is wretched. The sauce tastes like jarred spaghetti sauce.

Edited May 24, 2011 by scouterjim

[Shady]

That sad part about this whole situation, is that Herman Cain still has more executive experience than candidate Obama.

[Guest American Woman]

That sad part about this whole situation, is that Herman Cain still has more executive experience than candidate Obama.

Well of course he does; after all, he knows how to make a really good pizza.

:lol:

[maple_leafs182]

As for the Tea Party....this clown show was never a real populist movement from the start. It was mostly astroturf - fake grassroots, with nothing but a few old cranks who get bussed around to demonstrate with signs that are already made for them in advance.

You know nothing of the Tea Party, it was all grassroots but has now been somewhat co-opted. Ron Paul raised over 5 million dollars in one day his last presidential campaign, on may 5th this year he raised over one million dollars in one day. Him nor his campaign organized those money bomb days, random volunteers did, it was all grass roots. Stop watching the lame stream media, people like Sarah Palin have nothing to do with the tea party, let me repeat that, Sarah Palin has nothing to do with the tea party.

If you want to learn about the tea party and where it came from, research Ron Paul's 2008 GOP nominee run.

[Yukon Jack]

Well of course he does; after all, he knows how to make a really good pizza. :lol: :lol:quote]

That's A HELL OF a lot more than Obama ever knew or for that matter, ever will know.