bloodyminded Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 Praying always works--- like praying that your dog will come back to life after being run over by a gravel truck. Or that you get 100% on a test you never studied for . Just so. I prayed that Mr. Canada's post would evaporate, but it remains. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Guest peterb Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 Email to CTV Newsnet I don’t want to be an alarmist, but inadvertently, there was something very disturbing, told Canadians on the CTV News Network this morning, that should be of great concern about the neutrality, impartiality and the role of some members of the media in this election campaign. In reporting about a Harper rally this morning, and the questioning of the Prime Minister, Robert Fife told Jackie Milczarek “We’ll get him”. This conjures up a picture of some sort of conspiracy by some members of the media, to undermine or carry out some subversive attack in the dying days of Harper’s campaign, to influence the results of this election or worse – certainly not the role of a supposedly impartial media. I think it behooves Robert Fife and CTV, to make public who all constitites the “we”, because otherwise, this is a suspicion and smear of other members of the media who are innocent , professional and not deserving of this accusation of unprofessional conduct. Are Canadians , Elections Canada , CRTC and Harper’s protective detail entitled to an explanation of this threat? Has the media watch dog been alerted? At best Canadians should be warned of the objectivity and neutrality of some members of the media, in their coverage of this election campaign, and that some individual media types are not above distorting and misrepresenting their reports to Canadians. The report that include that threat of “we’ll get him” aired shortly after 11:00 A.M. CST, and I see any reference to it has been removed since in Fife’s reports – for a cover up, and what I would say are obvious reasons. Does CTV brass think that Robert Fife should remain as a reporter on the campaign trail or are their viewers entitled to a more ethical and reputable coverage? Here is the opportunity for CTV to demonstrate to Canadians who have expressed concerns about biased coverage, that they will not countenance any hint of it, on their network coverage of the election campaign and that their integrity is more important than a reporter’s personal vendetta. I expect CTV will be issuing an apology to their Canadian viewers. Quote
Harry Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) How utterly ridiculous. The press will get Harper tonite in BC - it's payback time for drowning out the media's questions at Harper's presser this morning in Ontario. BCers know very well who Malik is. Do you? Hint: a very similiar situation to the OJ Simpson saga. Edited April 23, 2011 by Harry Quote
ToadBrother Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) I expect CTV will be issuing an apology to their Canadian viewers. Because the press wants to nail a politician down? Wow! Shockers! Two hundred and fifty years of popular press, and you think this is a new thing? As Bad Santa would say, did your momma just shat you are out of her womb? There is absolutely nothing more moronic and pathetic than watching a party booster moaning about the press. Edited April 23, 2011 by ToadBrother Quote
Harry Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) This very successful NPD rally today in Montreal will help contribute to the continuing NDP surge. Look for the NDP to increase its support in the polls. NDP flexes newfound muscle with 1,000 at rally in Duceppe's Montreal riding http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5gd9g52On_tW... Edited April 23, 2011 by Harry Quote
punked Posted April 23, 2011 Author Report Posted April 23, 2011 This very successful NPD rally today in Montreal will help contribute to the continuing NDP surge. Look for the NDP to increase its support in the polls. NDP flexes newfound muscle with 1,000 at rally in Duceppe's Montreal riding http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5gd9g52On_tW... CTV says it was 1300 people there. Quote
ToadBrother Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 CTV says it was 1300 people there. I'm trusting there weren't buses lined up to take away the "supporters". Quote
Harry Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) No need as Montreal has the best subway system in Canada. Edited April 23, 2011 by Harry Quote
punked Posted April 23, 2011 Author Report Posted April 23, 2011 I'm trusting there weren't buses lined up to take away the "supporters". I'm hearing they were lined up 3 blocs deep to get in so I think it was just people form Montreal who now support the NDP. I think they settled the "are the Quebec numbers real" argument Iggy doesn't get. Quote
ninjandrew Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 Do we get to see the results of the advanced votes before May 3? Quote "Everything in moderation, including moderation." -- Socrates
Harry Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) Don't think so, well Monday, May 2nd, after the polls are closed, but usually if it's a high turnout it is not a good sign for the government, and apparently voting has been quite heavy. The Bloc are in full scale panic mode and those Conservative seats in Quebec are looking less and less secure now. The fact that the Bloc are calling out Parizeau for a rally on Monday is just one indication of their desperation. Tweets show Bloc on offensive as NDP leads polls in Quebec Any doubt the Bloc Québécois is playing panicked defence can be put to rest. The Bloc is spending Easter weekend desperately shoring up its base, appealing to hard line nationalists who appear to be losing enthusiasm for the party under Gilles Duceppe. Under Mr. Duceppe's name, the Bloc fired off a hostile tweet early Saturday proclaiming the election a fight between “Canadians and Quebeckers.” http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/tweets-show-bloc-on-offensive-as-ndp-leads-polls-in-quebec/article1996548/?from=sec368 Edited April 23, 2011 by Harry Quote
punked Posted April 23, 2011 Author Report Posted April 23, 2011 This article reports Liberals have been Black Berrying reports like crazy to try and change the narrative on the NDP. Desperate much? Now they are actively interfering with the media because they are wetting their pants. Oh the article also speaks of Laytons Record setting Quebec Rally. http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/CanadaVotes/News/2011/04/23/18058311.html Quote
capricorn Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 I'm hearing they were lined up 3 blocs deep to get in so I think it was just people form Montreal who now support the NDP. I think they settled the "are the Quebec numbers real" argument Iggy doesn't get. I can just hear Ignatieff now. "Whatever they put in Jack's I.V. at the hospital, I want some." Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
punked Posted April 23, 2011 Author Report Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) Montreal Gazette is reporting 2000 people were at the NDP rally today!!!! That is crazy I have never been to a rally that big even conventions usaly don't get that many people to them. http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/decision-canada/Layton+draws+crowd+Montreal/4665425/story.html Edited April 23, 2011 by punked Quote
TimG Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 Montreal Gazette is reporting 2000 people were at the NDP rally today!!!! That is crazy I have never been to a rally that big even conventions usaly don't get that many people to them.It is in a major metro area with a lot of positive media attention. It is good but I would not overplay the significance. Quote
Harry Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) It is in a major metro area with a lot of positive media attention. It is good but I would not overplay the significance. Actually it is of major significance as it continues the momentum for the NDP and proves that the surge is real. And media experts are saying that attack ads this late in the campaign don't have the impact they have at the beginning of the campaign. The ads are just basically noise now. Record Quebec crowd swoons over Layton But after ignoring Layton for most of the campaign, the Liberals and Conservatives had launched attack ads directed at the NDP. The change of tactic is a sign of panic, say some observers. Sources told QMI Agency the Liberals are stunned by the turn of events in the last several days, despite what they say has been a flawless campaign. The Liberals pivoted Saturday with an attack ad questioning how the NDP can afford its platform. Journalists covering Layton on Saturday were hounded with BlackBerry assaults from the Liberal campaign on the dangers of NDP immigration policies and how Layton's cap-and-trade system will bankrupt Canada. Duceppe - trailing the NDP in Quebec in an historic turnaround - has called on separatist fire-breather Jacques Parizeau to pump some life into the ailing Bloc campaign. Meanwhile, Duceppe's dance partner at the provincial level - Parti Quebecois Leader Pauline Marois - says Layton is a danger to Quebec. But the new found adoration, and what some pundits are calling a rock-star-like rise in popularity, means attacks are inevitable and just a part of politics, Layton concedes. "This is not the first time that people have put a target on my back. I can bob and weave as anybody else and I take it as a compliment. I really do." http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/CanadaVotes/News/2011/04/23/18058311.html?cid=rssnewslast24hours Edited April 23, 2011 by Harry Quote
nittanylionstorm07 Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 I really think at this point Duceppe is going to lose his own riding. That's going to be the most amazing part of this campaign outside of the destruction of the liberals. Besides, Helene Laverdiere has a pretty impressive resume. Quote
Vancouverite Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 Polls show the NDP are ahead of the Liberals - if that happens on election day, Ignatieff is finished. Layton, however, will be in the clouds. Quote
Wild Bill Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 Polls show the NDP are ahead of the Liberals - if that happens on election day, Ignatieff is finished. Layton, however, will be in the clouds. I keep repeating that this could be the start of a very good thing! Canadians end up with two clear electoral choices. The brokerage party of no fixed principles will go the way of the Liberal party in Britain. The NDP will have a chance to grow up! They won't be restricted to appealing just to the fringe demographics. They could become like the British Labour Party, able to work with Big Business without insulting them, while giving more respect to the common man. Quebec gets a federalist option that better suits their own socialist culture. The BQ will be left with all the old, dying guys stuck in the 60's. No doubt there will be some kinks in the evolutionary process but I can see much reason for optimism. Polls have shown that Jack's personal popularity is far higher than that of his party. If he brings them to the rank of Loyal Opposition he will have the power to effect change within his own party. These changes would help to attract more qualified people, who understand that real wealth comes from business and that government needs to strike a sustainable balance. It's too bad for the Liberals but they have done it to themselves. Things might not work out quite as bad as they look by the time we actually vote but no one can deny that for the Liberals things are looking very bleak indeed. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Triple M Posted April 24, 2011 Report Posted April 24, 2011 (edited) CTV/Nanos Poll National Conservatives 38.6%Liberals 25.9% New Democrats 23.2% Bloc 7.2% Green 3.7% If the Liberals are really that low in the polls than the Tories might sneak in a majority despite polling under the traditional majority %. However with how bad the quebec numbers are for Harper he might just loss much of his current 11 seats in the provinve. Edited April 24, 2011 by Triple M Quote
wyly Posted April 24, 2011 Report Posted April 24, 2011 (edited) CTV/Nanos Poll National If the Liberals are really that low in the polls than the Tories might sneak in a majority despite polling under the traditional majority %. However with how bad the quebec numbers are for Harper he might just loss much of his current 11 seats in the provinve. that's assuming only the liberals and bloc will lose votes/seats to the ndp...the conservatives held seats are being threatened by the ndp surge as well...in bc, sask, man, even alberta it's the ndp running 1/2 with the conservatives not the liberals.... Edited April 24, 2011 by wyly Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Mr.Canada Posted April 24, 2011 Report Posted April 24, 2011 that's assuming only the liberals and bloc will lose votes/seats to the ndp...the conservatives held seats are being threatened by the ndp surge as well...in bc, sask, man, even alberta it's the ndp running 1/2 with the conservatives not the liberals.... Tories will get their majority with a NDP official opposition. End of story. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted April 24, 2011 Report Posted April 24, 2011 Tories will get their majority with a NDP official opposition. End of story. What? The results are already in? Quote
punked Posted April 24, 2011 Author Report Posted April 24, 2011 CTV/Nanos Poll National If the Liberals are really that low in the polls than the Tories might sneak in a majority despite polling under the traditional majority %. However with how bad the quebec numbers are for Harper he might just loss much of his current 11 seats in the provinve. These numbers are really good especially because for whatever reason they are low balling the Ontario NDP numbers. This election is going to be a good one. Quote
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