Mr.Canada Posted March 19, 2011 Report Posted March 19, 2011 (edited) As this video shows, Ignatieff himself said that he is ready to have a coalition government and he's ready to lead that government. This doesn't sound like someone who loves Canada. Living outside Canada for 35 years doesn't say that he loves Canada either. I'd like to hear what posters think of this coalition and their attempted bloodless coup usually reserved for 3rd world nations. Can we trust Ignatieff not to get into bed with the separatists again? It's scary, very scary right now. Ignatieff is a man born from a wealthy Russian father came to Canada to get educated then promptly left Canada for 35 years before returning to try and wrestle power from the common man, the every man, our PM Stephen harper. After 35 years out of country this man has no idea what it means to be Canadian, he doesn't know wither as he calls himself an American several times in his life. Paul Martin makes a better PM than Ignatieff and that isn't saying much. Edited March 19, 2011 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
William Ashley Posted March 19, 2011 Report Posted March 19, 2011 (edited) *gag* Canadians can't trust Harper anyway. There is no difference. I'm not keen on eithers positions really. Ignatieff is more blatantly culturally biased against minority groups, in deethnicising, he is MORE of a war hawk. Atlhough the man is 10 or 15 years older (12) than Harper so even while spending those years out of Canada he has been in Canada for nearly as long officially. Also I can't blame a man for being a Canadian journalist outside of Canada, or a man from working for the UN in a foreign country, or a man working for the BBC, or a man working for Harvard. Those are jobs worth taking, and are "international" and prestigeous. It really would be a Canadian doing Canada proud. Lots of Canadians parents are from outside Canada. Probably close to 1/5th of Canadians are in the situation of being first or second generation. Like I said I have found issue with his policy positions, but the man in terms of character for being ethnic from the Russia Tsarists (not soviets), or working for international employers - isn't a negative in my books. ---- I'm not necisarily in full support of the 'official' story though. For instance when in college he was roommate with Bob Rae -----. For a man who is "unconnected", how did he land those cushy jobs with the UN, BBC, and Harvard. This leaves some things in mind in how he was connected with the Liberal Party, if he had membership or otherwise. Apparently he was active in Campaigning back in his college days unless my wires are crossed. For instance "volunteered for the Liberal Party during the 1965 federal election by canvassing the York South riding. He resumed his work for the Liberal Party in 1968, as a national youth organizer and party delegate for the Pierre Elliott Trudeau party leadership campaign." He seems to have "WENT UP", can you hold it against him? I think it is the wrong position if so. "Ignatieff took up his studies at the University of Oxford".. and there you have it. I am agast that you would attack such a high acheiving Canadian for succeeding. Bear in mind I'm not keen on some of his positions and he could be a bigger elitist than Harper, but I really don't know the latter. None the less I find your OP to be disgusting. Coalitions are good for democracy. They are a norm in more democratic states, and create stable governments rather than flimsy minorities. Edited March 19, 2011 by William Ashley Quote I was here.
Shakeyhands Posted March 19, 2011 Report Posted March 19, 2011 As this video shows, Are you just going to start a thread parroting every bullshit CP ad? If thats the case, please save us the bandwidth. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
g_bambino Posted March 19, 2011 Report Posted March 19, 2011 I'd like to hear what posters think of this coalition and their attempted bloodless coup usually reserved for 3rd world nations. You mean like the UK, Germany, Australia, Sweden, etc.? Quote
SF/PF Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) It's not about you. It's just about HIM! I was going to call this high school mentality, but I realized that it isn't even that mature. Should have the talk radio folks howling with laughter, though. Edited March 25, 2011 by SF/PF Quote Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -4.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15
Moonbox Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 The electorate eats this stuff up unfortunately. Dumb ads for dumb people I guess. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Jack Weber Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) And the Conservatives want to play the sanctimoniuous high road as if they are above a smear campaign??? Contemptuous low lifes... Edited March 25, 2011 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Moonbox Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 And the Conservatives want to play the sanctimoniuous high road as if they are above a smear campaign??? Contemptuous low lifes... Nobody can really play the hypocrisy card here Jack lol. None of them have shown themselves above the smear campaign. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Shady Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 And the Conservatives want to play the sanctimoniuous high road as if they are above a smear campaign??? Contemptuous low lifes... Looks like Jack learned a new word today! Anyways, if you can't take the heat get outta the kitchen. Quote
Shady Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 And the Conservatives want to play the sanctimoniuous high road as if they are above a smear campaign??? Contemptuous low lifes... Looks like Jack learned a new word today! Anyways, if you can't take the heat get outta the kitchen. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 Nobody can really play the hypocrisy card here Jack lol. None of them have shown themselves above the smear campaign. orly? where are the Liberal, NDP or Bloc attack ads? I must have missed them. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
capricorn Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 orly? where are the Liberal, NDP or Bloc attack ads? I must have missed them. I guess you skipped the committee hearings. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Jack Weber Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 Looks like Jack learned a new word today! Anyways, if you can't take the heat get outta the kitchen. Huh? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Shady Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 orly? where are the Liberal, NDP or Bloc attack ads? I must have missed them. The secret agenda, or Harper using the military in the streets of Canadian cities. The reason there aren't any ads right now, is because nobody supports those horrid parties. Thus their fundraising is abysmal. Quote
Tilter Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 The secret agenda, or Harper using the military in the streets of Canadian cities. The reason there aren't any ads right now, is because nobody supports those horrid parties. Thus their fundraising is abysmal. They likely can't afford anything but lawn posters. The wisdom of a teacher (if you can't do it teach about it), a socialist who painted himself into a corner and someone who likes Canada because it provides his riding with many billions of dollars for social funds on the back of the Ontario, Saskatchewan & Alberta taxpayer. Quote
Goodbrew Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 Even though there it is legal and there is precedence in other nations, I think it is a coalition is a little underhanded in the Canadian context where its such a new and unused concept. If the NDP and Liberals want to form a government together, why not join forces going into the election, rather than after losing the election. If you want to operate as one government after the election, go into the election as one party. Quote
capricorn Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 The reason there aren't any ads right now, is because nobody supports those horrid parties. Thus their fundraising is abysmal. The opps saved money by doing their attacking in taxpayer funded House committees. Got em' a lot of free prime time publicity too. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Shakeyhands Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 Even though there it is legal and there is precedence in other nations, I think it is a coalition is a little underhanded in the Canadian context where its such a new and unused concept. If the NDP and Liberals want to form a government together, why not join forces going into the election, rather than after losing the election. If you want to operate as one government after the election, go into the election as one party. New? Unused? Someone needs to do some reading. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Jack Weber Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 The opps saved money by doing their attacking in taxpayer funded House committees. Got em' a lot of free prime time publicity too. It must be very inconvenient to you (and Mr.Lukiwski,Mr.Toews,Mr.Nicholson,and,Mr.Harper) that The Speaker of the House found evidence of a Prima Facie case for the Conservative government to be found in Contempt of Parliament for the first time in the history of this country??? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
William Ashley Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) Exactly Ignatieff didn't come back for you. 'he came back for himself right?' VOTERS DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM THEY VOTED FOR THEMSELVES, RIGHT... a good as reason as any to vote for Ignatieff. Harper didn't even need to leave to be all about himself. Ignatieff came BACK.. HARPER COULDN'T LEAVE - he wanted to be a diplomat and failed look at how well he has diplomassed for Canada as PM... NO security council seat, tiff with the arab world, no prestige contract at all for anything over 5 years... his biggest "acheivement" has been signing away Canadian Sovereginty by letting the US military and police 'secure' Canada. Edited March 25, 2011 by William Ashley Quote I was here.
capricorn Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 It must be very inconvenient to you (and Mr.Lukiwski,Mr.Toews,Mr.Nicholson,and,Mr.Harper) that The Speaker of the House found evidence of a Prima Facie case for the Conservative government to be found in Contempt of Parliament for the first time in the history of this country??? I can't speak for the MPs you listed, but it's never inconvenient for me to exercise my democratic right to vote. Yes this will make the history books. Constitutional experts, historians and professors will dissect this event to their heart's content. Heck, maybe Ignatieff will develop a workshop when he soon returns to the classroom. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Goodbrew Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 New? Unused? Someone needs to do some reading. To my knowledge, the last federal coalition was in the 1920's. When i say new and unused concept, I mean to say that for the overwhelming majority of Canadians, the possibility of a coalition has not entered their minds and is not taken into account when voting. Quote
scribblet Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 These frothing Liberals, Goodale and Iggy in particular, don’t seem to understand that their ferocious attitude is what is dragging them down in the polls, as Harper comes across as calm and reasoned. Today’s poll CPC 43% Lib 24%. The Liberals should be careful what they wish for, good bye Count Ignatieff Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Jack Weber Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 I can't speak for the MPs you listed, but it's never inconvenient for me to exercise my democratic right to vote. Yes this will make the history books. Constitutional experts, historians and professors will dissect this event to their heart's content. Heck, maybe Ignatieff will develop a workshop when he soon returns to the classroom. So you would prefer to vote for a party that jibbers out the word "Coalition",trying to villify anyone who would consider the idea,when the leader of that party was quite prepared to do the very same thing with the very same people who (ostensibly) were'nt as horrible and scary in 2004??? You would prefer a party that has a book handed out to its members instructing them onhow to disrupt committee meetings? You would prefer a party that has now been found to be contemptuous of our parliamentary intitutions,in historic fashion? I'm not a fan of Mr.Ignatieff,but after all of this,if the Conservatives are prepared to act this way in a minority situation...A Tory majority is a very scary proposition... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 These frothing Liberals, Goodale and Iggy in particular, don’t seem to understand that their ferocious attitude is what is dragging them down in the polls, as Harper comes across as calm and reasoned. Today’s poll CPC 43% Lib 24%. The Liberals should be careful what they wish for, good bye Count Ignatieff The only "frothing" I've seen is from the likes of Baird,Lukiwski,and the loudmouth talking pointer,Pierre Poilievre blathering about some dreaded "coalition" when their "Dear Leader" was quite prepared to do the very same thing in 2004 with the very same people... Latest poll I just saw has the Con's at 36% and 29% for the Lib's... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
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