Topaz Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 I came across this and thought I link it here. The guy talking I think is a scientist or weather man but whoever he is he seems to know what he's talking about. He has proof that some of these storms are being cause by man or HAAPR and the following link he shows viewers his proof. Thoughts? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5AqVjRE9LM Quote
Mr.Canada Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 I'm on the fence about chem trails. The main reason being is that I don't think government could keep such a secret quiet. Honestly, if everyone thinks the government is a bunch of bumbling fools how could they possibly orchestrate something like this and keep it a secret right? Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
DogOnPorch Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=18129&view=findpost&p=633366 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Thanks for the post Topaz! Much appreciated. Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 No such thing as a "chemtrail" Your posts are appreciated Topaz...quite funny Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
GostHacked Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Even if chemtrails are nothing more than persistent contrails, that needs to be addressed. A few planes in the morning, and then a complete overcast haze by the end of the day. What does that do for the climate? I enjoy having my blue sky and sun blotched out by 'persistent contrails'.(sarcasm) Quote
Sir Bandelot Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 At any moment, there are thousands and thousands of planes in the sky. Yet we still have sunny days? The real problem with chemtrails and the like is, they affect everyone, even the families of the "bad guys" would be affected. So why would they do it? Now for the video, my thoughts are- those straight looking lines of precipitation on the radar must be very wide. Think of the scale of the image. To me it seems doubtful that a single plane could create such a long, thick line in its exhaust. You would need a whole fleet of planes. And if there are thousands of contrails from the thousands of planes in the air at all times, made up of principally water these do not show up in weather radar. The density of the contrails is not significant enough to make the radar reflect and show lines. More likely that such lines are created due to "fronts", regions where there is pressure differential and where there will be high winds and precipitiation activity. Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Even if chemtrails are nothing more than persistent contrails, that needs to be addressed. A few planes in the morning, and then a complete overcast haze by the end of the day. What does that do for the climate? I enjoy having my blue sky and sun blotched out by 'persistent contrails'.(sarcasm) Because there have never been hazy afternoons prior to airplanes..... I knew a fellow, quite nuts who tries to tell anyone who would listen that prior to colour film, the world was in black in white....he had proof Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
DogOnPorch Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 http://contrailscience.com/ Maybe this will help...or not. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Because there have never been hazy afternoons prior to airplanes..... Now there are hazy days because of airplanes. Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 Now there are hazy days because of airplanes. Of course, logical fallacy notwithstanding... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
GostHacked Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 Of course, logical fallacy notwithstanding... It's not fallacy. Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 It's not fallacy. Of course it is. You assume that because the sky is hazy, it is caused by "chemtrails". Even though you have no proof that they do...given that chemtrails are a fallacy... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
GostHacked Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 Of course it is. You assume that because the sky is hazy, it is caused by "chemtrails". You need to observe the sky now and then and get away from the computer. Even though you have no proof that they do...given that chemtrails are a fallacy... I've got proof, but I doubt you would accept it as such. There is much visual proof online as well. But that won't convince you either. Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 You need to observe the sky now and then and get away from the computer. You need to post intelligently I've got proof, but I doubt you would accept it as such. There is much visual proof online as well. But that won't convince you either. I'm sure visual proof is all we need....I mean, how complex is an issue like atmospheric conditions impacted by condensation and exhaust that it can't be minutely detailed non-scientificly on youtube? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
GostHacked Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 You need to post intelligently I'm sure visual proof is all we need....I mean, how complex is an issue like atmospheric conditions impacted by condensation and exhaust that it can't be minutely detailed non-scientificly on youtube? Well if you admit that contrails are persistent (lasting hours perhaps all day) then you can agree that they do end up forming a white haze after some time. And the proof I have, does not come from youtube. Comes from my own cameras. Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 Well if you admit that contrails are persistent (lasting hours perhaps all day) then you can agree that they do end up forming a white haze after some time. And the proof I have, does not come from youtube. Comes from my own cameras. I can agree there is more smoke form forest fires, car exhausts, coal mills, etc etc..in one day than all the contrails in a month.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Wilber Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 Utter effing nonsense. Weather radar cannot see clouds or haze, it can only see the precipitation within them, rain, hail etc. No aircraft or fleet of aircraft could carry enough liquid to give anything more than a very small return which would dissipate in a matter of seconds. It's weather nitwit. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
GostHacked Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 I can agree there is more smoke form forest fires, car exhausts, coal mills, etc etc..in one day than all the contrails in a month.... So the haze I see out there today is due to what then? Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 So the haze I see out there today is due to what then? The same reason that when someone looked out 10,000 years ago and saw haze..only now we have cars, factories, heating oil.... Are you one of those who believe that prior to the invention of colour film, the world was in black and white? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
GostHacked Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 The same reason that when someone looked out 10,000 years ago and saw haze..only now we have cars, factories, heating oil.... First you say they were contrails now you say it's due to something else? Make up your mind already. Are you one of those who believe that prior to the invention of colour film, the world was in black and white? See this is why I need that /facepalm icon. Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 First you say they were contrails now you say it's due to something else? Make up your mind already. I facepalm would be helpful because I have never said that contrails/chemtrails are the source of haze.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
GostHacked Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 I facepalm would be helpful because I have never said that contrails/chemtrails are the source of haze.... True, you rarely say anything of value at all, that much is true. Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 True, you rarely say anything of value at all, that much is true. At least not in your posts...but I have been known to quote the price of tinfoil, which I am sure helps.... Can you find where I said that Contrails are the source of haze? Can you find a meteorologist who says that too? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 This may help you....but I doubt it, they don"t mention tinfoil... Haze is traditionally an atmospheric phenomenon where dust, smoke and other dry particles obscure the clarity of the sky. The World Meteorological Organization manual of codes includes a classification of horizontal obscuration into categories of fog, ice fog, steam fog, mist, haze, smoke, volcanic ash, dust, sand and snow. [1] Sources for haze particles include farming (ploughing in dry weather), traffic, industry, and wildfires. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haze Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
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