Are Canadians having their privacy invaded?

[Topaz]

Two Professors of U of Ottawa have someone asking the university for information on Amir Attran and Errol Mendes concerning their work history, performance reviews, expenses and teaching records going back many years. They asked who but the university say they can't say because of the privacy reasons. The two professor wondering if the Tory Party of Canada or the PMO is doing it. I think the next likely hood is CSIS, perhaps asked by PMO. I think the two should be able to ask and find out who and why. http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Tories+they+behind+records+requests+profs/4271285/story.html

[Molly]

I am honestly surprised that a FOI request actually CAN be made anonymously.

Someone has to sign it. Someone has to specify what they are looking at. Someone even has to pay for it. Why is that info more secret than what is being requested?

While it could open requesters of information to intimidation just for asking- a valid concern- it's oxymoronic. Soooooo... if someone submitted an access to info request requesting the name of whomever requested that info, they should get it? No?

[cybercoma]

While it could open requesters of information to intimidation just for asking- a valid concern

That's pretty much it then.

[Saipan]

Liberals do that often. 'Specially to someone who speaks against long firearms registration.

[Mr.Canada]

These people are paid by the public taxes. Anyone is well within their rights to have this information.

I don't want to move back to a time when we weren't able to look at the records of publicly funded individuals and institutions.

It's our money they're spending, we should be able to see what they're spending it on.

[scribblet]

Whoever made the request won't get all of the info they asked for, some if it is beyond what can be given out.

The linked article is better than that of the Star article, which I've just realized was changed later in the day.

Maybe this is all a Liberal plot, you know, Liberals in cahoots with the Star make the call, then the Star reports on it as a disinformation campaign cos there's of talk of a spring election. :lol:

[Molly]

Whoever made the request won't get all of the info they asked for, some if it is beyond what can be given out.

The linked article is better than that of the Star article, which I've just realized was changed later in the day.

Maybe this is all a Liberal plot, you know, Liberals in cahoots with the Star make the call, then the Star reports on it as a disinformation campaign cos there's of talk of a spring election. :lol:

So maybe YOU should make a FOI request to find out who wants to know.

[scribblet]

Good idea, but I can't afford it, so maybe the Star or the professors should do it

[Keepitsimple]

I'm glad these two academic bozos are back in the news. Amir Attaran was the darling of CBC during the Afghan Detainee "crisis". He regularly accused Canada of War Crimes and the military of turning a blind eye to rampant prisoner abuse. CBC had him on every week to fan the anti-Conservative flames - egged on by Liberal guest commentators. Now that Canadians have had time to reflect on the issue with the facts, many will not have kind recollections of his arrogant demeanor and inflammatory statements. He's entitled to his opinion - but there are consequences for accusing your own country of War Crimes.

Edited February 13, 2011 by Keepitsimple

[Shwa]

Two Professors of U of Ottawa have someone asking the university for information on Amir Attran and Errol Mendes concerning their work history, performance reviews, expenses and teaching records going back many years. They asked who but the university say they can't say because of the privacy reasons. The two professor wondering if the Tory Party of Canada or the PMO is doing it. I think the next likely hood is CSIS, perhaps asked by PMO. I think the two should be able to ask and find out who and why. http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Tories+they+behind+records+requests+profs/4271285/story.html

No, there is nothing wrong with asking for personal information about any employee, it can always be denied. In this case, the request would have been made under the Ontario Freedom to Information and Privacy Act and they have constraints as to what they can release.

If the professors are truly interested in who is making the request, they can raise a access to information request themselves although I am sure, through the institutional grapevine, they already know who it is.

[eyeball]

Now that Canadians have had time to reflect on the issue with the facts,

Are you saying that the detainee records have been released, unredacted?

[g_bambino]

I think the next likely hood is CSIS, perhaps asked by PMO.

I think it was one of the Co-Princes of Andorra, asked by a Sao Paulo prostitute.

Both scenarios are just as plausible.

[Molly]

they have constraints

WTF?

Read your link?

Edited February 13, 2011 by Molly

[William Ashley]

There is no privacy in Canada - if you didn't know they don't even need warrants for wiretaps.

The world is not all safe and secure and cozy, the upper echelons of government do whatever they want.

Edited February 13, 2011 by William Ashley

[GostHacked]

There is no privacy in Canada - if you didn't know they don't even need warrants for wiretaps.

The world is not all safe and secure and cozy, the upper echelons of government do whatever they want.

And when we have government violating our rights unchecked, we are set up for the slaughter.

[Shwa]

WTF?

Read your link?

So you don't have to?

If there something there that alarms you, please, do tell.

Otherwise, you need to find better fitting tinfoil for your hat.

Edited February 14, 2011 by Shwa

[Saipan]

Are you saying that the detainee records have been released, unredacted?

What detainees? Afghanistan?

It's Afghani business.

[eyeball]

There is no privacy in Canada - if you didn't know they don't even need warrants for wiretaps.

The world is not all safe and secure and cozy, the upper echelons of government do whatever they want.

That's because all the privacy/secrecy is in the upper echelons of government.

[eyeball]

What detainees? Afghanistan?

Yes that's right.

It's Afghani business.

You wish. Unfortunately Ottawa waded in and made Afghanistan Canada's business.

[guyser]

There is no privacy in Canada - if you didn't know they don't even need warrants for wiretaps.

The world is not all safe and secure and cozy, the upper echelons of government do whatever they want.

You sure about that or just pulling it out of your backside?

If 'they' are the govt then you are wrong.

If you want to record your own conversation then go ahead.

[Molly]

So you don't have to?

If there something there that alarms you, please, do tell.

Otherwise, you need to find better fitting tinfoil for your hat.

I just wondered whether you had bothered to read it before linking it since it doesn't really seem to be particularly on point, to make any point, or to provide any information that's useful to this conversation. I honestly expected you to be expressing something useful or interesting and not just filling space with chaff, but apparently I was wrong.

No biggie. I'll just remember for next time, and expect less from your links.

[Shwa]

I just wondered whether you had bothered to read it before linking it since it doesn't really seem to be particularly on point, to make any point, or to provide any information that's useful to this conversation.

Of course, it wouldn't make any sense to someone who hasn't a clue of what they are talking about in the first place. You're excused. Read the link and discover Ontario.

I honestly expected you to be expressing something useful or interesting and not just filling space with chaff, but apparently I was wrong.

I honestly expected you to understand something about Freedom of Information law in Ontario, but apparently I was wrong. Let me guess - you use domestic aluminum for your hats don't you?

No biggie. I'll just remember for next time, and expect less from your links.

Pffft. LOFL!